I agree 100%. On the new Mustang. I also love the New Dodge pickup 4 dr BEAUTIFUL Truck ! I'd buy a Mustang over the Camaro

 

Hi Rick & Member's,
No Hard Feeling @ `all. I respect your opinions & may not agree with all of them, but I respect them...

I posted the X Brand cars I like 4 the $'s & not to slap you or anyone 4-Sure...
I hope that you & member's that have the time to check out this below thread...Peace/Happiness/Out
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What are you doing to make the MCF better ? (I ask myself) ?
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What am I doing ? I guess What I do best

 

the agitator is at it again....

 

Keane Aren't you suppose to be in frozen & dairy by now

 

I was not aware of this. LOL. That is depressing. I will still buy one! But I understand how it lost to BMW, the car it was being compared too was probally a five series. BMW make brilliant luxury cars that can handle itself on a track if needed. Now BMW makes horrible SUVs. It is crazy the deal breaker on the two was the Cadillacs trans issues.

 

Read below for more infor:

>The Battle for the Small-Bore Sport Sedan Crown: GM vs BMW<


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Pirelli Cinturato P7










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</TD></TR><TR class=hdr1><TD colSpan=4>DIMENSIONS </TD></TR><TR class=hdr2><TD>WHEELBASE </TD><TD>110.6 in </TD><TD>109.3 in </TD></TR><TR class=hdr3><TD>TRACK, F/R </TD><TD>60.3/61.9 in </TD><TD>59.5/60.9 in </TD></TR><TR class=hdr2><TD>LENGTH x WIDTH x HEIGHT </TD><TD>182.5 x 71.3 x 56.3 in </TD><TD>182.8 x 71.1 x 55.9 in </TD></TR><TR class=hdr3><TD>TURNING CIRCLE </TD><TD>37.1 ft </TD><TD>36.0 ft </TD></TR><TR class=hdr2><TD>CURB WEIGHT </TD><TD>3409 lb </TD><TD>3433 lb </TD></TR><TR class=hdr3><TD>WEIGHT DIST., F/R </TD><TD>49/51 % </TD><TD>50/50 % </TD></TR><TR class=hdr2><TD>SEATING CAPACITY </TD><TD>5 </TD><TD>5 </TD></TR><TR class=hdr3><TD>HEADROOM, F/R </TD><TD>40.3/37.7 in </TD><TD>38.6/36.8 in </TD></TR><TR class=hdr2><TD>LEGROOM, F/R </TD><TD>42.0/35.1 in </TD><TD>42.5/33.5 in </TD></TR><TR class=hdr3><TD>SHOULDER ROOM, F/R </TD><TD>55.1/55.1 in </TD><TD>55.2/53.9 in </TD></TR><TR class=hdr2><TD>CARGO VOLUME </TD><TD>17.0 cu ft </TD><TD>10.2 cu ft </TD></TR><TR class=hdr1><TD colSpan=4>TEST DATA <TR class=hdr3><TD colSpan=4>ACCELERATION TO MPH <TR class=hdr2><TD>0-30 </TD><TD>1.8 sec </TD><TD>1.8 sec </TD></TR><TR class=hdr3><TD>0-40 </TD><TD>3.0 </TD><TD>3.0 </TD></TR><TR class=hdr2><TD>0-50 </TD><TD>4.1 </TD><TD>4.3 </TD></TR><TR class=hdr3><TD>0-60 </TD><TD>5.5 </TD><TD>6.0 </TD></TR><TR class=hdr2><TD>0-70 </TD><TD>7.4 </TD><TD>7.7 </TD></TR><TR class=hdr3><TD>0-80 </TD><TD>9.3 </TD><TD>9.8 </TD></TR><TR class=hdr2><TD>0-90 </TD><TD>11.6 </TD><TD>12.5 </TD></TR><TR class=hdr3><TD>0-100 </TD><TD>14.8 </TD><TD>15.4 </TD></TR><TR class=hdr2><TD>PASSING, 45-65 MPH </TD><TD>3.0 </TD><TD>3.2 </TD></TR><TR class=hdr3><TD>QUARTER MILE </TD><TD>14.1 sec @ 98.2 mph </TD><TD>14.4 sec @ 96.9 mph </TD></TR><TR class=hdr2><TD>BRAKING, 60-0 MPH </TD><TD>113 ft </TD><TD>108 ft </TD></TR><TR class=hdr3><TD>LATERAL ACCELERATION </TD><TD>0.89 g (avg) </TD><TD>0.90 g (avg) </TD></TR><TR class=hdr2><TD>MT FIGURE EIGHT </TD><TD>26.3 sec @ 0.70 g (avg) </TD><TD>26.3 sec @ 0.71 g (avg) </TD></TR><TR class=hdr3><TD>TOP-GEAR REVS @ 60 MPH </TD><TD>2150 rpm </TD><TD>2000 rpm </TD></TR><TR class=hdr1><TD colSpan=4>CONSUMER INFO <TR class=hdr2><TD>BASE PRICE </TD><TD>$35,795 </TD><TD>$35,795 </TD></TR><TR class=hdr3><TD>PRICE AS TESTED </TD><TD>$50,845 </TD><TD>$45,910 </TD></TR><TR class=hdr2><TD>STABILITY/TRACTION CONTROL </TD><TD>Yes/Yes </TD><TD>Yes/Yes </TD></TR><TR class=hdr3><TD>AIRBAGS </TD><TD>Dual front, front side, f/r curtain </TD><TD>Dual front, f/r side, f/r curtain, front knee </TD></TR><TR class=hdr2><TD>BASIC WARRANTY </TD><TD>4 yrs/50,000 miles </TD><TD>4 yrs/50,000 miles </TD></TR><TR class=hdr3><TD>POWERTRAIN WARRANTY </TD><TD>4 yrs/50,000 miles </TD><TD>6 yrs/70,000 miles </TD></TR><TR class=hdr2><TD>ROADSIDE ASSISTANCE </TD><TD>4 yrs/Unlimited </TD><TD>6 yrs/70,000 miles </TD></TR><TR class=hdr3><TD>FUEL CAPACITY </TD><TD>15.8 gal </TD><TD>16.00 gal </TD></TR><TR class=hdr2><TD>EPA CITY/HWY ECON </TD><TD>23/34 mpg </TD><TD>21/31 mpg </TD></TR><TR class=hdr3><TD>ENERGY CONS., CITY/HWY </TD><TD>147/99 kW-hrs/100 miles </TD><TD>160/190 kW-hrs/100 miles </TD></TR><TR class=hdr2><TD>CO2 EMISSIONS </TD><TD>0.72 lb/mile </TD><TD>0.79 lb/mile </TD></TR><TR class=hdr3><TD>RECOMMENDED FUEL </TD><TD>Unleaded premium </TD><TD>Unleaded premium </TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>
2012 BMW 328i Sport vs. 2013 Cadillac ATS 2.0 Turbo Comparison - Motor Trend
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Can't wait for my Camaro 1LS next year

 

Hi `Mike,
I think you are going to have to wait , but good things are worth waiting for 4-Sure

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