2012 Honda Civic (They still build coupes)+
#1
04-21-2011, 07:52 AM
2012 Honda Civic (They still build coupes)+
Hi Member's,
I still prefer coupes over 4dr's & SUV's etc.
I do like the new Honda Civic `Si with a bigger engine this year...They claim 0-60 in 6 sec's range & 1/4 mile in the 14's.
What do you think of the New Civic ?
Would you buy one ? Race One ?
lol
2012 Honda Civic - Driving Impressions
Nine generations and counting.
By Douglas Kott
April 19, 2011
Slideshow >>
More from Honda >>
Do you remember what you were doing 39 years ago…if you were even born yet? Honda does—it brought its first Civic into the U.S. for the 1973 model year, during the Nixon administration. And here it is in its ninth generation, offered in Coupe, Sedan, Si Coupe, Si Sedan, CNG, Hybrid and HF variants, still an economical, well-built car whose decidedly non-sexy name carries a Pavlovian feel-good aura. How, then, do you improve it?
Shorter Wheelbase, More Space, Greater Efficiency
In the Sedan’s case, you make the body-in-white stiffer, 7 percent lighter and with a slightly shorter wheelbase (105.1 in. versus 106.3 for its predecessor), yet increase overall interior volume by 3.7 cu. ft. Shoulder room is up by 2.9 in., and rear leg room is increased by 1.6 in. The Coupe has fractionally less interior volume before, but with similar increases in shoulder- and rear leg room. You also make it more fuel-efficient, with the 1.8-liter i-VTEC 4-cylinder having nearly the same output as before (140 bhp, 128 lb.-ft. of torque) but improved mileage: 28 mpg city/39 mpg hwy. That’s done with higher-efficiency catalysts, friction-reducing coatings and altered valve timing on the 2-stage VTEC, but the Civic still uses a 5-speed automatic and port fuel injection. Honda says that going to a 6-speed and direct injection could vault it into the 40-mpg range, but deemed it not worth the extra cost. For the hypermiling frugalista, there’s the HF model whose coefficient of drag is lowered by 4.4 percent through flush wheels, aero underbody/gas tank covers and a rear lip spoiler. These changes, plus a tire choice that yields a 20-percent reduction in rolling resistance, give the HF a rating of 29 mpg city/41 mpg hwy.
2012 Honda Civic EX-L Sedan
Civic Hybrid, CNG Models
Want higher mileage still? The Civic Hybrid now achieves 44 mpg city/44 mpg hwy, thanks to reduced friction in its 1.5-liter gasoline engine, a switch from nickel/metal-hydride batteries to lithium-ion with nearly three times the capacity, and a lighter (yet more powerful) motor that runs cooler and with less internal resistance. In a mileage competition at the car’s introduction, one journalist achieved just over 60 mpg over a 10-mile loop. But going 40 mph on the expressway with, er, “gesturing” truckers streaming past on either side is not recommended for the daily commute. The CNG model continues too, with compressed natural gas filling stations preprogrammed in the optional navigation system.
2012 Honda Civic Hybrid
Safety, Convenience
You’ve heard of active headrests that use the force of a rearward-moving body to pivot forward, to better cradle the head in a rear-end impact? Well, Honda achieves the same anti-whiplash effect by carefully slitting the seat foam and arranging its support springs so that the occupant sinks into the seat more and meets the headrest, rather than the headrest moving forward. The Civic’s electric-assist power steering, working in conjunction with the yaw-control system, will gently tug the steering wheel in the direction needed to counter a slide. And inside the interior—a cleanly modernized version of its former self—what Honda calls its i-MID (Intelligent Multi-Information Display) is standard on all but the base Civic DX model. Its 5-in. color LCD display can toggle through music, nav, trip meter and hands-free phone displays via buttons on the steering wheel.
2012 Honda Civic Si Coupe Interior
Civic Si: Más Macho Performance
For 2012, Honda gives the 2.0-liter i-VTEC the heave-ho and puts a 2.4-liter i-VETC engine in its place. With 201 bhp and 170 lb.-ft. of torque (the latter figure a quantum leap from the 2.0’s 139 lb.-ft.), the new engine lacks a bit of its predecessor’s high-end yelp, but more than compensates with its super-strong midrange twist. Superimpose the old/new torque curves on a graph, and it’s foothills versus mountains. And the sounds are glorious—growl, rasp and shriek can be had in a single sweep of the tach needle.
True to the Civic Si Concept that bowed at the Detroit Auto Show earlier this year, the new production Si evolves the “one-motion” design theme of its forebear, with a more angular nose, a mesh grille, chiseled no-flab body sides and a rear spoiler with two vents near its center. The concept’s 19-in. wheels do give way to 17-in. alloys with the same basic styling, shod with Michelin Pilot Exalto tires, size 215/45-17. The overall look is ripped, leaner and angrier, and the greenhouse gets fixed panes ahead of the side-door glass, and thinner A-pillars for improved forward visibility. As with the last Si, both 2-door coupe and 4-door sedan body styles are offered, and the interior carries forward with the controversial double-tier instrument panel. The tachometer looks a little lonely, swimming around in the large lower recess, but the addition of sequential shift lights backs up the sportiness of the grippy, amply bolstered seats and red-stitched steering wheel leather.
2012 Honda Civic Si Coupe
We predict 6-second 0-60 times, and quarter-mile clockings in the high 14s. Honda is also claiming improved highway mileage, estimated at 31 mpg. And it’s a hoot to drive, as we found on an autocross course that Honda set up for us. Handling is crisp, with flatter cornering and a firmer ride than I remember from the last Si. Steering weights up nicely as the corner tightens and torque steer is almost a non-issue—impressive as there’s so much more torque. And the 6-speed’s shifter is simply one of the best on the planet.
Pricing
Civics are nothing if not affordable, and the ninth-gen cars continue the legacy. The Civic Sedan—$15,805 to $23,905; the Civic Coupe—15,605 to $23,455; the Civic Si Sedan—$22,405 to $23,905; the Civic Si Coupe—$22,205 to $23,905; the Civic HF—19,455; the Civic Hybrid Sedan—$24,050 to $26,750. The CNG version’s price has yet to be announced.
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I still prefer coupes over 4dr's & SUV's etc.
I do like the new Honda Civic `Si with a bigger engine this year...They claim 0-60 in 6 sec's range & 1/4 mile in the 14's.
What do you think of the New Civic ?
Would you buy one ? Race One ?
lol2012 Honda Civic - Driving Impressions
Nine generations and counting.
By Douglas Kott
April 19, 2011
Slideshow >> More from Honda >> Do you remember what you were doing 39 years ago…if you were even born yet? Honda does—it brought its first Civic into the U.S. for the 1973 model year, during the Nixon administration. And here it is in its ninth generation, offered in Coupe, Sedan, Si Coupe, Si Sedan, CNG, Hybrid and HF variants, still an economical, well-built car whose decidedly non-sexy name carries a Pavlovian feel-good aura. How, then, do you improve it?
Shorter Wheelbase, More Space, Greater Efficiency
In the Sedan’s case, you make the body-in-white stiffer, 7 percent lighter and with a slightly shorter wheelbase (105.1 in. versus 106.3 for its predecessor), yet increase overall interior volume by 3.7 cu. ft. Shoulder room is up by 2.9 in., and rear leg room is increased by 1.6 in. The Coupe has fractionally less interior volume before, but with similar increases in shoulder- and rear leg room. You also make it more fuel-efficient, with the 1.8-liter i-VTEC 4-cylinder having nearly the same output as before (140 bhp, 128 lb.-ft. of torque) but improved mileage: 28 mpg city/39 mpg hwy. That’s done with higher-efficiency catalysts, friction-reducing coatings and altered valve timing on the 2-stage VTEC, but the Civic still uses a 5-speed automatic and port fuel injection. Honda says that going to a 6-speed and direct injection could vault it into the 40-mpg range, but deemed it not worth the extra cost. For the hypermiling frugalista, there’s the HF model whose coefficient of drag is lowered by 4.4 percent through flush wheels, aero underbody/gas tank covers and a rear lip spoiler. These changes, plus a tire choice that yields a 20-percent reduction in rolling resistance, give the HF a rating of 29 mpg city/41 mpg hwy.
2012 Honda Civic EX-L Sedan
Civic Hybrid, CNG Models
Want higher mileage still? The Civic Hybrid now achieves 44 mpg city/44 mpg hwy, thanks to reduced friction in its 1.5-liter gasoline engine, a switch from nickel/metal-hydride batteries to lithium-ion with nearly three times the capacity, and a lighter (yet more powerful) motor that runs cooler and with less internal resistance. In a mileage competition at the car’s introduction, one journalist achieved just over 60 mpg over a 10-mile loop. But going 40 mph on the expressway with, er, “gesturing” truckers streaming past on either side is not recommended for the daily commute. The CNG model continues too, with compressed natural gas filling stations preprogrammed in the optional navigation system.
2012 Honda Civic Hybrid
Safety, Convenience
You’ve heard of active headrests that use the force of a rearward-moving body to pivot forward, to better cradle the head in a rear-end impact? Well, Honda achieves the same anti-whiplash effect by carefully slitting the seat foam and arranging its support springs so that the occupant sinks into the seat more and meets the headrest, rather than the headrest moving forward. The Civic’s electric-assist power steering, working in conjunction with the yaw-control system, will gently tug the steering wheel in the direction needed to counter a slide. And inside the interior—a cleanly modernized version of its former self—what Honda calls its i-MID (Intelligent Multi-Information Display) is standard on all but the base Civic DX model. Its 5-in. color LCD display can toggle through music, nav, trip meter and hands-free phone displays via buttons on the steering wheel.
2012 Honda Civic Si Coupe Interior
Civic Si: Más Macho Performance
For 2012, Honda gives the 2.0-liter i-VTEC the heave-ho and puts a 2.4-liter i-VETC engine in its place. With 201 bhp and 170 lb.-ft. of torque (the latter figure a quantum leap from the 2.0’s 139 lb.-ft.), the new engine lacks a bit of its predecessor’s high-end yelp, but more than compensates with its super-strong midrange twist. Superimpose the old/new torque curves on a graph, and it’s foothills versus mountains. And the sounds are glorious—growl, rasp and shriek can be had in a single sweep of the tach needle.
True to the Civic Si Concept that bowed at the Detroit Auto Show earlier this year, the new production Si evolves the “one-motion” design theme of its forebear, with a more angular nose, a mesh grille, chiseled no-flab body sides and a rear spoiler with two vents near its center. The concept’s 19-in. wheels do give way to 17-in. alloys with the same basic styling, shod with Michelin Pilot Exalto tires, size 215/45-17. The overall look is ripped, leaner and angrier, and the greenhouse gets fixed panes ahead of the side-door glass, and thinner A-pillars for improved forward visibility. As with the last Si, both 2-door coupe and 4-door sedan body styles are offered, and the interior carries forward with the controversial double-tier instrument panel. The tachometer looks a little lonely, swimming around in the large lower recess, but the addition of sequential shift lights backs up the sportiness of the grippy, amply bolstered seats and red-stitched steering wheel leather.
2012 Honda Civic Si Coupe
We predict 6-second 0-60 times, and quarter-mile clockings in the high 14s. Honda is also claiming improved highway mileage, estimated at 31 mpg. And it’s a hoot to drive, as we found on an autocross course that Honda set up for us. Handling is crisp, with flatter cornering and a firmer ride than I remember from the last Si. Steering weights up nicely as the corner tightens and torque steer is almost a non-issue—impressive as there’s so much more torque. And the 6-speed’s shifter is simply one of the best on the planet.
Pricing
Civics are nothing if not affordable, and the ninth-gen cars continue the legacy. The Civic Sedan—$15,805 to $23,905; the Civic Coupe—15,605 to $23,455; the Civic Si Sedan—$22,405 to $23,905; the Civic Si Coupe—$22,205 to $23,905; the Civic HF—19,455; the Civic Hybrid Sedan—$24,050 to $26,750. The CNG version’s price has yet to be announced.
What’s Hot:
- Ultra-torquey new Si engine
- Extra shoulder room appreciated
- Hybrid inches closer to Prius’ mpg
- Dash/door panel plastics could be better
- Has styling changed enough?
- No 6-speed automatic offered
» Overview» Photos & 360° View» Specs» Prices w/Options
Pages: 1 Photos
Last edited by Space; 04-21-2011 at 08:35 AM.
#2
04-21-2011, 09:31 AM
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#5
04-22-2011, 06:18 AM
So do I `Amy, but the Accord Coupe I like are over $30K
I think they are a great touring coupe.
I like the new Civic Si, especially with there new 2.4L Engine that has some torque so you don't have to be at 8K RPM 4 power...I do love there 6 Speed Transmission....+ you have decent power & good MPG's.
I want to test drive one when they come `out. I met a lady that sells them & she told me to stop in & drive one when they arrive : ) I'm not ready to buy anything, but test drives are `free : )
Inside Line Road Test
2012 Honda Civic First Drive »
April 20, 2011
Click above link & you can take a Web Test `Drive : ) Light'em `up : )
Last edited by Space; 04-22-2011 at 06:28 AM.
#6
04-22-2011, 07:31 AM
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Wauconda, IL
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I'm sure you can find a good used one Space. That's what I might do when I have to replace the 05 Monte. It's between the Honda Accord Coupe, Nissan Altima Coupe, Challenger RT, or a Camaro LT1.
#7
04-22-2011, 07:43 AM
Hi `Amy, with the climbing price of fuel, I think the 4cyl Honda Accord Coupe & Nissan Altima Coupe would be the best choice....They both really are holding their value 4-Sure.
A good used one is hard to find, and the certified ones are close in price to a new one...Good Luck on your search...& thanks for your posts/input..
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04-22-2011, 08:44 AM
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I totally agree with you.
#9
04-22-2011, 08:54 AM
For your Viewing Pleasure Old Concept
I like that one 
Have a seat & take one 4 a `Drive...V6- six speed FWD & they hold their Value.
I wish Chevy would bring a new Monte Carlo Back 2 compete 4-Sure : )
Last edited by Space; 04-22-2011 at 08:56 AM.
#10
04-22-2011, 09:43 AM
2011 Honda Accord V6 EX-L Coupe - Road Test Update
The Accord Coupe gets a mid-cycle refresh.
By Douglas Kott / Photos by Guy Spangenberg
November 10, 2010
Slideshow >>
New Cars for 2011 >>
In the car biz, they like to call it MCR, or Mid-Cycle Refresh, the automotive styling equivalent of Botox and rhinoplasty. For the strong-selling Accord Coupe, this means no sheet metal changes for 2011, but a more aerodynamic front fascia (with foglights set into deeper scallops and a larger lower air intake) and a bolder grille with a kinked horizontal slat. At the rear, taillights get more chiseled, their sides getting a protruding ridge that follows the body character line. New 5-spoke wheels round out the cosmetic changes that definitely give the coupe an edgier mien.
Thankfully, it’s status quo in the engine bay, our fully loaded EX-L having the impressively torquey 271-bhp 3.5-liter VTEC V-6 paired with a 6-speed manual transmission. Throttle response is immediate from just about anywhere in the rev band, but with all that torque comes a small dose of torque steer. Shift action is solid with a somewhat plasticky feel, as if the synchros were made of machined Delrin. At 6.2 seconds to 60 mph, it’s a certifiably quick car.
With the facelift comes some extra standard equipment: paddle shifters on the steering wheel (with the 5-speed automatic, of course), a memory function for the driver’s seat and a USB port. And in a move to organize the profusely pushbuttoned center stack, the ventilation control buttons are done in contrasting gray plastic and grouped nearer the driver. These changes ought to keep the Nissan Altima Coupe, the Accord’s nearest marketplace rival, playing Avis to Honda’s Hertz.
The Accord Coupe gets a mid-cycle refresh.
By Douglas Kott / Photos by Guy Spangenberg
November 10, 2010
Slideshow >> New Cars for 2011 >> In the car biz, they like to call it MCR, or Mid-Cycle Refresh, the automotive styling equivalent of Botox and rhinoplasty. For the strong-selling Accord Coupe, this means no sheet metal changes for 2011, but a more aerodynamic front fascia (with foglights set into deeper scallops and a larger lower air intake) and a bolder grille with a kinked horizontal slat. At the rear, taillights get more chiseled, their sides getting a protruding ridge that follows the body character line. New 5-spoke wheels round out the cosmetic changes that definitely give the coupe an edgier mien.
Thankfully, it’s status quo in the engine bay, our fully loaded EX-L having the impressively torquey 271-bhp 3.5-liter VTEC V-6 paired with a 6-speed manual transmission. Throttle response is immediate from just about anywhere in the rev band, but with all that torque comes a small dose of torque steer. Shift action is solid with a somewhat plasticky feel, as if the synchros were made of machined Delrin. At 6.2 seconds to 60 mph, it’s a certifiably quick car.
With the facelift comes some extra standard equipment: paddle shifters on the steering wheel (with the 5-speed automatic, of course), a memory function for the driver’s seat and a USB port. And in a move to organize the profusely pushbuttoned center stack, the ventilation control buttons are done in contrasting gray plastic and grouped nearer the driver. These changes ought to keep the Nissan Altima Coupe, the Accord’s nearest marketplace rival, playing Avis to Honda’s Hertz.
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