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Old Aug 5, 2012 | 09:42 PM
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Frank , looks like 200 HP stock..

2005 Grand Prix
<TABLE border=0 cellSpacing=1 cellPadding=1 width=540><TBODY><TR><TD bgColor=#336699 width=140>Powertrain / Chassis</TD><TD bgColor=#336699 width=200 align=center>3800 3.8L
Series III V-6 (L26)



</TD><TD bgColor=#336699 width=200 align=center>3800 SC 3.8L Supercharged
Series III V-6 (L32)



</TD></TR><TR bgColor=#ecece4><TD width=140>Application</TD><TD width=200 align=center>std on Grand Prix and GT</TD><TD width=200 align=center>std on GTP</TD></TR><TR bgColor=#ccccc4><TD width=140>Type</TD><TD width=200 align=center>3.8L V-6</TD><TD width=200 align=center>3.8L supercharged V-6</TD></TR><TR bgColor=#ecece4><TD width=140>Displacement (cu in / cc)</TD><TD width=200 align=center>231 / 3791</TD><TD width=200 align=center>231 / 3791</TD></TR><TR bgColor=#ccccc4><TD width=140>Bore & stroke (in / mm)</TD><TD width=200 align=center>3.8 x 3.4 / 96.52 x 86.36</TD><TD width=200 align=center>3.8 x 3.4 / 96.52 x 86.36</TD></TR><TR bgColor=#ecece4><TD width=140>Block material</TD><TD width=200 align=center>thin wall cast iron</TD><TD width=200 align=center>thin wall cast iron</TD></TR><TR bgColor=#ccccc4><TD width=140>Cylinder head material</TD><TD width=200 align=center>cast iron</TD><TD width=200 align=center>cast iron</TD></TR><TR bgColor=#ecece4><TD width=140>Valvetrain</TD><TD width=200 align=center>OHV, 2 valves per cylinder</TD><TD width=200 align=center>OHV, 2 valves per cylinder</TD></TR><TR bgColor=#ccccc4><TD width=140>Ignition system</TD><TD width=200 align=center>electronic</TD><TD width=200 align=center>electronic</TD></TR><TR bgColor=#ecece4><TD width=140>Fuel delivery</TD><TD width=200 align=center>sequential-port fuel injection</TD><TD width=200 align=center>sequential-port fuel injection</TD></TR><TR bgColor=#ccccc4><TD width=140>Compression ratio</TD><TD width=200 align=center>9.4:1</TD><TD width=200 align=center>8.5:1</TD></TR><TR bgColor=#ecece4><TD width=140>Horsepower (hp / kw @ rpm)</TD><TD width=200 align=center>200 / 145 @ 5200</TD><TD width=200 align=center>260 / 186 @ 5200</TD></TR><TR bgColor=#ccccc4><TD width=140>Torque (lb-ft / Nm @ rpm)</TD><TD width=200 align=center>230 / 312 @ 4000</TD><TD width=200 align=center>280 / 380 @ 3600</TD></TR><TR bgColor=#ecece4><TD width=140>Recommended fuel</TD><TD width=200 align=center>87 octane</TD><TD width=200 align=center>92 octane recommended</TD></TR><TR bgColor=#ccccc4><TD width=140>Maximum engine speed (rpm)</TD><TD width=200 align=center>5900</TD><TD width=200 align=center>5800</TD></TR><TR bgColor=#ecece4><TD width=140>Emissions controls</TD><TD width=200 align=center>catalytic converter/EGR</TD><TD width=200 align=center>catalytic converter/EGR</TD></TR><TR bgColor=#ccccc4><TD width=140>MPG (city/hwy/comb)




</TD><TD width=200 align=center>20 / 30 / 24</TD><TD width=200 align=center>18 / 28 / 22</TD></TR><TR bgColor=#ecece4><TD rowSpan=2 width=140>MPIG (city / hwy / combined)</TD><TD rowSpan=2 width=200 align=center>24 / 40 / 29</TD><TD width=200 align=center>22 / 37 / 27</TD></TR><TR bgColor=#ccccc4><TD bgColor=#ecece4 width=200 align=center>22 / 34 / 26 - with TAP</TD></TR><TR bgColor=#ccccc4><TD rowSpan=2 width=140>L/100km (city / hwy / combined)</TD><TD rowSpan=2 width=200 align=center>11.8 / 7.1 / 9.7</TD><TD width=200 align=center>12.6 / 7.6 / 10.4</TD></TR><TR bgColor=#ccccc4><TD width=200 align=center>13.0 / 8.3 / 10.9 - with TAP</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>
<TABLE border=0 cellSpacing=1 cellPadding=1 width=540><TBODY><TR bgColor=#336699><TD width=152>Transmission</TD><TD width=381 align=center>2005 Pontiac Grand Prix</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>


2005 Monte Carlo
<TABLE border=0 cellSpacing=1 cellPadding=1 width=540><TBODY><TR><TD bgColor=#336699 width=190>Powertrain / Chassis</TD><TD bgColor=#336699 width=120 align=center>3400 3.4L V-6 (LA1)</TD><TD bgColor=#336699 width=120 align=center>3800 3.8L Series II V-6 (L36)</TD><TD bgColor=#336699 width=120 align=center>3800 3.8L Supercharged Series II V-6 (L67) </TD></TR><TR bgColor=#ecece4><TD width=190>Application</TD><TD width=120 align=center>standard on LS</TD><TD width=120 align=center>standard on LT</TD><TD width=120 align=center>Supercharged SS</TD></TR><TR bgColor=#ccccc4><TD width=190>Type</TD><TD width=120 align=center>3.4L V-6</TD><TD width=120 align=center>3.8L V-6</TD><TD width=120 align=center>3.8L V-6 w/supercharger</TD></TR><TR bgColor=#ecece4><TD width=190>Displacement (cu in / cc)</TD><TD width=120 align=center>207 / 3350</TD><TD width=120 align=center>231 / 3791</TD><TD width=120 align=center>231 / 3791</TD></TR><TR bgColor=#ccccc4><TD width=190>Bore & stroke (in / mm)</TD><TD width=120 align=center>3.62 x 3.31 / 92 x 84</TD><TD width=120 align=center>3.80 x 3.40 / 96.5 x 86.4</TD><TD width=120 align=center>3.80 x 3.40 / 96.5 x 86.4</TD></TR><TR bgColor=#ecece4><TD width=190>Block material</TD><TD width=120 align=center>cast iron</TD><TD width=120 align=center>cast iron</TD><TD width=120 align=center>cast iron</TD></TR><TR bgColor=#ccccc4><TD width=190>Cylinder head material</TD><TD width=120 align=center>cast aluminum</TD><TD width=120 align=center>cast iron</TD><TD width=120 align=center>cast iron</TD></TR><TR bgColor=#ecece4><TD width=190>Valvetrain</TD><TD width=120 align=center>OHV, 2 valves per cylinder</TD><TD width=120 align=center>OHV, 2 valves per cylinder</TD><TD width=120 align=center>OHV, 2 valves per cylinder</TD></TR><TR bgColor=#ccccc4><TD width=190>Ignition system</TD><TD width=120 align=center>direct</TD><TD width=120 align=center>direct</TD><TD width=120 align=center>direct</TD></TR><TR bgColor=#ecece4><TD width=190>Fuel delivery</TD><TD width=120 align=center>sequential fuel injection</TD><TD width=120 align=center>sequential fuel injection</TD><TD width=120 align=center>sequential fuel injection</TD></TR><TR bgColor=#ccccc4><TD width=190>Compression ratio</TD><TD width=120 align=center>9.5:1</TD><TD width=120 align=center>9.4:1</TD><TD width=120 align=center>8.5:1</TD></TR><TR bgColor=#ecece4><TD width=190>Horsepower (hp / kw @ rpm)</TD><TD width=120 align=center>180 / 134 @ 5200</TD><TD width=120 align=center>200 / 149 @ 5200</TD><TD width=120 align=center>240 / 179 @ 5200</TD></TR><TR bgColor=#ccccc4><TD width=190>Torque (lb-ft / Nm @ rpm)</TD><TD width=120 align=center>205 / 278 @ 4000</TD><TD width=120 align=center>225 / 305 @ 4000</TD><TD width=120 align=center>280 / 380 @ 3600</TD></TR><TR bgColor=#ecece4><TD width=190>Recommended fuel</TD><TD width=120 align=center>87 octane</TD><TD width=120 align=center>87 octane</TD><TD width=120 align=center>92 octane required</TD></TR><TR bgColor=#ccccc4><TD width=190>Maximum engine speed (rpm)</TD><TD width=120 align=center>6000</TD><TD width=120 align=center>6000</TD><TD width=120 align=center>6000</TD></TR><TR bgColor=#ecece4><TD width=190>Emissions controls</TD><TD width=120 align=center>catalytic converter/EGR/ PCV/evaporative system</TD><TD width=120 align=center>catalytic converter/EGR/ PCV/evaporative system</TD><TD width=120 align=center>catalytic converter/EGR/ PCV/evaporative system</TD></TR><TR bgColor=#ccccc4><TD width=190>MPG (city / hwy / comb)</TD><TD width=120 align=center>21 / 32 / 26</TD><TD width=120 align=center>20 / 30 / 25</TD><TD width=120 align=center>18 / 28 / 22.5</TD></TR><TR bgColor=#ecece4><TD width=190>MPIG (city / hwy / comb)</TD><TD width=120 align=center>25 / 42 / 31</TD><TD width=120 align=center>24 / 40 / 29


</TD><TD width=120 align=center>21 / 34 / 25</TD></TR><TR bgColor=#ccccc4><TD width=190>L/100km (city / hwy / comb)</TD><TD width=120 align=center>11.1 / 6.8 / 9.2</TD><TD width=120 align=center>11.8 / 7.1 / 9.7


</TD><TD width=120 align=center>13.4 / 8.2 / 11.1</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>
<TABLE border=0 cellSpacing=1 cellPadding=1 width=540><TBODY><TR bgColor=#336699><TD width=120>Transmission</TD><TD width=413 align=center>2005 Chevrolet Monte Carlo</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>
 

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Old Aug 5, 2012 | 10:43 PM
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Originally Posted by brendan127
I'm pretty sure the L26 has less horsepower, like 170 or 174.. then again I wasn't looking at one from an 05 GP.. cause I thought the motor came from an Impala which wouldn't have been possible since it was an L26 anyways, lol.
GM would not attract people to there "sporty" car lines if the HP went backwards and dropped (unless there was a GOOD reason for it). The S3 engine is the same or MORE HP then the S2. And as mentioned, less potential inner engine problems.

Franks build should make that Monte like a brand new street machine!
 
Old Aug 5, 2012 | 11:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Franks 03SS
Are you saying that i'll have less HP than a 3.4 monte?
Well I'd be willing to bet any money that my 3.4 Monte would make your Monte look like it's standing still in its current state!..........hopefully

 
Old Aug 6, 2012 | 12:22 AM
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Originally Posted by brendan127
I'm pretty sure the L26 has less horsepower, like 170 or 174.. then again I wasn't looking at one from an 05 GP.. cause I thought the motor came from an Impala which wouldn't have been possible since it was an L26 anyways, lol.
No the series 3 is rated at 200hp I'm sure
I was going to go for another L36 which was from that impala i mentioned a few weeks back but I decided to go with this L26 instead
 
Old Aug 6, 2012 | 12:27 AM
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Originally Posted by zjerry
Frank , looks like 200 HP stock..

2005 Grand Prix
<TABLE border=0 cellSpacing=1 cellPadding=1 width=540><TBODY><TR><TD bgColor=#336699 width=140>Powertrain / Chassis</TD><TD bgColor=#336699 width=200 align=center>3800 3.8L
Series III V-6 (L26)



</TD><TD bgColor=#336699 width=200 align=center>3800 SC 3.8L Supercharged
Series III V-6 (L32)



</TD></TR><TR bgColor=#ecece4><TD width=140>Application</TD><TD width=200 align=center>std on Grand Prix and GT</TD><TD width=200 align=center>std on GTP</TD></TR><TR bgColor=#ccccc4><TD width=140>Type</TD><TD width=200 align=center>3.8L V-6</TD><TD width=200 align=center>3.8L supercharged V-6</TD></TR><TR bgColor=#ecece4><TD width=140>Displacement (cu in / cc)</TD><TD width=200 align=center>231 / 3791</TD><TD width=200 align=center>231 / 3791</TD></TR><TR bgColor=#ccccc4><TD width=140>Bore & stroke (in / mm)</TD><TD width=200 align=center>3.8 x 3.4 / 96.52 x 86.36</TD><TD width=200 align=center>3.8 x 3.4 / 96.52 x 86.36</TD></TR><TR bgColor=#ecece4><TD width=140>Block material</TD><TD width=200 align=center>thin wall cast iron</TD><TD width=200 align=center>thin wall cast iron</TD></TR><TR bgColor=#ccccc4><TD width=140>Cylinder head material</TD><TD width=200 align=center>cast iron</TD><TD width=200 align=center>cast iron</TD></TR><TR bgColor=#ecece4><TD width=140>Valvetrain</TD><TD width=200 align=center>OHV, 2 valves per cylinder</TD><TD width=200 align=center>OHV, 2 valves per cylinder</TD></TR><TR bgColor=#ccccc4><TD width=140>Ignition system</TD><TD width=200 align=center>electronic</TD><TD width=200 align=center>electronic</TD></TR><TR bgColor=#ecece4><TD width=140>Fuel delivery</TD><TD width=200 align=center>sequential-port fuel injection</TD><TD width=200 align=center>sequential-port fuel injection</TD></TR><TR bgColor=#ccccc4><TD width=140>Compression ratio</TD><TD width=200 align=center>9.4:1</TD><TD width=200 align=center>8.5:1</TD></TR><TR bgColor=#ecece4><TD width=140>Horsepower (hp / kw @ rpm)</TD><TD width=200 align=center>200 / 145 @ 5200</TD><TD width=200 align=center>260 / 186 @ 5200</TD></TR><TR bgColor=#ccccc4><TD width=140>Torque (lb-ft / Nm @ rpm)</TD><TD width=200 align=center>230 / 312 @ 4000</TD><TD width=200 align=center>280 / 380 @ 3600</TD></TR><TR bgColor=#ecece4><TD width=140>Recommended fuel</TD><TD width=200 align=center>87 octane</TD><TD width=200 align=center>92 octane recommended</TD></TR><TR bgColor=#ccccc4><TD width=140>Maximum engine speed (rpm)</TD><TD width=200 align=center>5900</TD><TD width=200 align=center>5800</TD></TR><TR bgColor=#ecece4><TD width=140>Emissions controls</TD><TD width=200 align=center>catalytic converter/EGR</TD><TD width=200 align=center>catalytic converter/EGR</TD></TR><TR bgColor=#ccccc4><TD width=140>MPG (city/hwy/comb)




</TD><TD width=200 align=center>20 / 30 / 24</TD><TD width=200 align=center>18 / 28 / 22</TD></TR><TR bgColor=#ecece4><TD rowSpan=2 width=140>MPIG (city / hwy / combined)</TD><TD rowSpan=2 width=200 align=center>24 / 40 / 29</TD><TD width=200 align=center>22 / 37 / 27</TD></TR><TR bgColor=#ccccc4><TD bgColor=#ecece4 width=200 align=center>22 / 34 / 26 - with TAP</TD></TR><TR bgColor=#ccccc4><TD rowSpan=2 width=140>L/100km (city / hwy / combined)</TD><TD rowSpan=2 width=200 align=center>11.8 / 7.1 / 9.7</TD><TD width=200 align=center>12.6 / 7.6 / 10.4</TD></TR><TR bgColor=#ccccc4><TD width=200 align=center>13.0 / 8.3 / 10.9 - with TAP</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>
<TABLE border=0 cellSpacing=1 cellPadding=1 width=540><TBODY><TR bgColor=#336699><TD width=152>Transmission</TD><TD width=381 align=center>2005 Pontiac Grand Prix</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>


2005 Monte Carlo
<TABLE border=0 cellSpacing=1 cellPadding=1 width=540><TBODY><TR><TD bgColor=#336699 width=190>Powertrain / Chassis</TD><TD bgColor=#336699 width=120 align=center>3400 3.4L V-6 (LA1)</TD><TD bgColor=#336699 width=120 align=center>3800 3.8L Series II V-6 (L36)</TD><TD bgColor=#336699 width=120 align=center>3800 3.8L Supercharged Series II V-6 (L67) </TD></TR><TR bgColor=#ecece4><TD width=190>Application</TD><TD width=120 align=center>standard on LS</TD><TD width=120 align=center>standard on LT</TD><TD width=120 align=center>Supercharged SS</TD></TR><TR bgColor=#ccccc4><TD width=190>Type</TD><TD width=120 align=center>3.4L V-6</TD><TD width=120 align=center>3.8L V-6</TD><TD width=120 align=center>3.8L V-6 w/supercharger</TD></TR><TR bgColor=#ecece4><TD width=190>Displacement (cu in / cc)</TD><TD width=120 align=center>207 / 3350</TD><TD width=120 align=center>231 / 3791</TD><TD width=120 align=center>231 / 3791</TD></TR><TR bgColor=#ccccc4><TD width=190>Bore & stroke (in / mm)</TD><TD width=120 align=center>3.62 x 3.31 / 92 x 84</TD><TD width=120 align=center>3.80 x 3.40 / 96.5 x 86.4</TD><TD width=120 align=center>3.80 x 3.40 / 96.5 x 86.4</TD></TR><TR bgColor=#ecece4><TD width=190>Block material</TD><TD width=120 align=center>cast iron</TD><TD width=120 align=center>cast iron</TD><TD width=120 align=center>cast iron</TD></TR><TR bgColor=#ccccc4><TD width=190>Cylinder head material</TD><TD width=120 align=center>cast aluminum</TD><TD width=120 align=center>cast iron</TD><TD width=120 align=center>cast iron</TD></TR><TR bgColor=#ecece4><TD width=190>Valvetrain</TD><TD width=120 align=center>OHV, 2 valves per cylinder</TD><TD width=120 align=center>OHV, 2 valves per cylinder</TD><TD width=120 align=center>OHV, 2 valves per cylinder</TD></TR><TR bgColor=#ccccc4><TD width=190>Ignition system</TD><TD width=120 align=center>direct</TD><TD width=120 align=center>direct</TD><TD width=120 align=center>direct</TD></TR><TR bgColor=#ecece4><TD width=190>Fuel delivery</TD><TD width=120 align=center>sequential fuel injection</TD><TD width=120 align=center>sequential fuel injection</TD><TD width=120 align=center>sequential fuel injection</TD></TR><TR bgColor=#ccccc4><TD width=190>Compression ratio</TD><TD width=120 align=center>9.5:1</TD><TD width=120 align=center>9.4:1</TD><TD width=120 align=center>8.5:1</TD></TR><TR bgColor=#ecece4><TD width=190>Horsepower (hp / kw @ rpm)</TD><TD width=120 align=center>180 / 134 @ 5200</TD><TD width=120 align=center>200 / 149 @ 5200</TD><TD width=120 align=center>240 / 179 @ 5200</TD></TR><TR bgColor=#ccccc4><TD width=190>Torque (lb-ft / Nm @ rpm)</TD><TD width=120 align=center>205 / 278 @ 4000</TD><TD width=120 align=center>225 / 305 @ 4000</TD><TD width=120 align=center>280 / 380 @ 3600</TD></TR><TR bgColor=#ecece4><TD width=190>Recommended fuel</TD><TD width=120 align=center>87 octane</TD><TD width=120 align=center>87 octane</TD><TD width=120 align=center>92 octane required</TD></TR><TR bgColor=#ccccc4><TD width=190>Maximum engine speed (rpm)</TD><TD width=120 align=center>6000</TD><TD width=120 align=center>6000</TD><TD width=120 align=center>6000</TD></TR><TR bgColor=#ecece4><TD width=190>Emissions controls</TD><TD width=120 align=center>catalytic converter/EGR/ PCV/evaporative system</TD><TD width=120 align=center>catalytic converter/EGR/ PCV/evaporative system</TD><TD width=120 align=center>catalytic converter/EGR/ PCV/evaporative system</TD></TR><TR bgColor=#ccccc4><TD width=190>MPG (city / hwy / comb)</TD><TD width=120 align=center>21 / 32 / 26</TD><TD width=120 align=center>20 / 30 / 25</TD><TD width=120 align=center>18 / 28 / 22.5</TD></TR><TR bgColor=#ecece4><TD width=190>MPIG (city / hwy / comb)</TD><TD width=120 align=center>25 / 42 / 31</TD><TD width=120 align=center>24 / 40 / 29


</TD><TD width=120 align=center>21 / 34 / 25</TD></TR><TR bgColor=#ccccc4><TD width=190>L/100km (city / hwy / comb)</TD><TD width=120 align=center>11.1 / 6.8 / 9.2</TD><TD width=120 align=center>11.8 / 7.1 / 9.7


</TD><TD width=120 align=center>13.4 / 8.2 / 11.1</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>
<TABLE border=0 cellSpacing=1 cellPadding=1 width=540><TBODY><TR bgColor=#336699><TD width=120>Transmission</TD><TD width=413 align=center>2005 Chevrolet Monte Carlo</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>
Thanks for that Info Jerry

Originally Posted by The_Maniac
GM would not attract people to there "sporty" car lines if the HP went backwards and dropped (unless there was a GOOD reason for it). The S3 engine is the same or MORE HP then the S2. And as mentioned, less potential inner engine problems.

Franks build should make that Monte like a brand new street machine!
Let's hope Jason

Originally Posted by Mike 00LS
Well I'd be willing to bet any money that my 3.4 Monte would make your Monte look like it's standing still in its current state!..........hopefully

I bet it would mike :P haha
 
Old Aug 6, 2012 | 12:45 AM
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Originally Posted by Franks 03SS
No the series 3 is rated at 200hp I'm sure
I was going to go for another L36 which was from that impala i mentioned a few weeks back but I decided to go with this L26 instead
Oh :P I didn't see it was the series III :P Yeah sam motor my brothers 04 GP GT has.. My car is faster but only because his car has the extra weight.. So your car will be getting faster if anything then
 
Old Aug 6, 2012 | 09:23 AM
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Originally Posted by brendan127
Oh :P I didn't see it was the series III :P Yeah sam motor my brothers 04 GP GT has.. My car is faster but only because his car has the extra weight.. So your car will be getting faster if anything then
Thanks man, I'm sure my monte will feel much faster than it used to be since I'm freshening up this motor and all
 
Old Aug 6, 2012 | 11:33 AM
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So i got the WP pulley from an older bonneville today for $5 along with a coolant reservoir hose i tore my original one when i pulled the motor haha

anyway i went to autozone and i had to order the cast impeller WP, it was only $21 and the paper gasket was like $5 or so. Should be there tomorrow noon. i also returned the cheap valve spring compressor and the plastic WP gasket i had originally bought too. so when i go to check out, the lady starts laughing lol she's like "oh WOW i owe you a penny " so it felt like i got the WP and gasket for free after returning the 2 things haha
 
Old Aug 6, 2012 | 12:11 PM
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Man frank you are getting close now !!!
 
Old Aug 6, 2012 | 12:50 PM
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the series 2 (L36) and series 3 (l26) engines make the same hp as stated, but the 200hp is at the crank so actually your only getting about 160whp

great progress frank looks great so far!
 



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