2002 ls
#3
There's a few: ZZP Downpipe (w/ a high flow cat), Wizaired CAI (K&N is cheap but poorly designed), maybe change out the exhaust (I added a Y pipe w/ dual Magnaflows...they really add some tone to the 3400). Tuned PCM. That's about it really.
Downpipe w/ high flow cat (made w/ 304 stainless) is about $280 (if you get this, you'll want to have the P0420 code flashed out otherwise it might throw a check engine light because the high flow cat makes the car think the cat is going bad since it filters less...still emissions legal though). >> http://zzperformance.com/grand_prix/...ts1.php?id=635
Wizaired CAI is $220...about $260 if you have ZZP include a 4" Filter >> http://www.zzperformance.com/grand_p...=247&catid=113
Tune will very by who does it, etc. A few people have used this guy and are very happy w/ him >> http://www.getoverkilled.ca/ >> Here's a thread on it; https://montecarloforum.com/forum/ni...rsports-29720/
Exhaust...mine cost $680, however, I had a lot of my piping changed to 304 stainless, my resonator patched, tips (that was over $100 right there). Plus fabricating the Y pipe. The Magnaflow muffer itself was $155 a piece.
Downpipe w/ high flow cat (made w/ 304 stainless) is about $280 (if you get this, you'll want to have the P0420 code flashed out otherwise it might throw a check engine light because the high flow cat makes the car think the cat is going bad since it filters less...still emissions legal though). >> http://zzperformance.com/grand_prix/...ts1.php?id=635
Wizaired CAI is $220...about $260 if you have ZZP include a 4" Filter >> http://www.zzperformance.com/grand_p...=247&catid=113
Tune will very by who does it, etc. A few people have used this guy and are very happy w/ him >> http://www.getoverkilled.ca/ >> Here's a thread on it; https://montecarloforum.com/forum/ni...rsports-29720/
Exhaust...mine cost $680, however, I had a lot of my piping changed to 304 stainless, my resonator patched, tips (that was over $100 right there). Plus fabricating the Y pipe. The Magnaflow muffer itself was $155 a piece.
Last edited by Mike 00LS; 07-28-2011 at 04:59 PM. Reason: Added Price Estimates & websites
#4
There's a few: ZZP Downpipe (w/ a high flow cat), Wizaired CAI (K&N is cheap but poorly designed), maybe change out the exhaust (I added a Y pipe w/ dual Magnaflows...they really add some tone to the 3400). Tuned PCM. That's about it really.
Downpipe w/ high flow cat (made w/ 304 stainless) is about $280 (if you get this, you'll want to have the P0420 code flashed out otherwise it might throw a check engine light because the high flow cat makes the car think the cat is going bad since it filters less...still emissions legal though). >> ZZ Performance
Wizaired CAI is $220...about $260 if you have ZZP include a 4" Filter >> ZZ Performance
Tune will very by who does it, etc. A few people have used this guy and are very happy w/ him >> :: Overkill Motorsports :: >> Here's a thread on it; https://montecarloforum.com/forum/ni...rsports-29720/
Exhaust...mine cost $680, however, I had a lot of my piping changed to 304 stainless, my resonator patched, tips (that was over $100 right there). Plus fabricating the Y pipe. The Magnaflow muffer itself was $155 a piece.
Downpipe w/ high flow cat (made w/ 304 stainless) is about $280 (if you get this, you'll want to have the P0420 code flashed out otherwise it might throw a check engine light because the high flow cat makes the car think the cat is going bad since it filters less...still emissions legal though). >> ZZ Performance
Wizaired CAI is $220...about $260 if you have ZZP include a 4" Filter >> ZZ Performance
Tune will very by who does it, etc. A few people have used this guy and are very happy w/ him >> :: Overkill Motorsports :: >> Here's a thread on it; https://montecarloforum.com/forum/ni...rsports-29720/
Exhaust...mine cost $680, however, I had a lot of my piping changed to 304 stainless, my resonator patched, tips (that was over $100 right there). Plus fabricating the Y pipe. The Magnaflow muffer itself was $155 a piece.
was on my phone earlier hah
#6
i was on lunch break and had like 5 mins left and wouldn't have had time to fill it all in lol, i figured someone would help me out =D
#7
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Just kidding.
The 3800 lends itself to a LOT more options then the 3400.
Mogwog and Trewyn15 summed up a lot of good info. I suppose the biggest question, what type of budget do you have. One thing they did not throw in there, you can add L67 coil packs (these are the ones used on the 3800 SuperCharged engine). They give a slightly hotted spark, translating to slightly improved throttle response. I would not go crazy on these, I got lucky to score a set from a junk yard for $15!! Both my 3800 N/A Monte have a set of them and so does my 3100 powered Grand Am (the 3100 was an earlier build of what is now the 3400). The L67 coils IMO are worth about $15-$20 for what they yield (so don't go nuts on that mod).
A resenator delete can also offer a small boost a little performance with no emissions or PCM effects (and I bet most exhaust shops would do that for a little amount of money). It only changes the pitch/tone on your exhaust. My 3100 powered Grand Am never had a resenator and sounds fine to me. I just had it deleted on my Monte because the after market cheap-o res the shop was putting on kept blowing the baffles loose every 3K miles or close to.
As already stated, could throw in a Wizaird CAI (if you don't want to install a CAI, you could at least installed a better flowing air filter like a drop-in K&N).
On a 3400 powered car, I'm not sure how valuable putting a ZZP downpipe and highflow cat would be. I leave that up to those who have done that mod and can give you some answers.
The CAI, Downpipe and a tune can get rather pricy.
The Monte and other W-Bodies are more popular to modding the 3800 drive trains. You may also want to check the Grand Am forums to see what those guys have done (since the 3400 is the biggest engine in the N-Bodies).
#8
Originally Posted by The_Maniac
I prefer not to give out performance secrets to people who like to call these "6 bangers" (they are unworthy to knw)
You can add L67 coil packs (these are the ones used on the 3800 SuperCharged engine). They give a slightly hotted spark, translating to slightly improved throttle response. I would not go crazy on these, I got lucky to score a set from a junk yard for $15!!
A resenator delete can also offer a small boost a little performance with no emissions or PCM effects
As already stated, could throw in a Wizaird CAI (if you don't want to install a CAI, you could at least installed a better flowing air filter like a drop-in K&N)
On a 3400 powered car, I'm not sure how valuable putting a ZZP downpipe and highflow cat would be
Getting a tune is about $155 from Will at Overkill and a lot of people recommend him because he dramatically changes the shift points which is one thing that really hold the car back.
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