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Old 01-13-2010, 05:12 PM
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Mine gets to about a line passed 1/4 while driving and if at a stop for over 1 m in goes almost to 1/2. Then it'll go back to the previous setting while driving again.
This is because chichi's pcm is tuned for the fan turn on points to kick in at 180* to match his thermostat. Stock fan turn on points are 212*, which is about halfway on the gauge.
While moving, air is flowing across the radiator no matter what the ect. When you're stopped you're not getting airflow across the radiator until your ect's hit 212* with a stock pcm, but they'll kick on at 180* if the pcm is set to.

either way a cooler engine is going to give me more power because of the colder air and all
Not necessarily.
Lower ECT's are going to cause the pcm to command a richer air/fuel mixture. Running rich generally leads to a loss in power, not an increase in power. The only time that a lower temp thermostat would be advantageous is if you are risking KR with a higher temp thermostat. On a mostly stock n/a engine, I wouldn't really bother with a lower temp thermostat...as the pcm commanding a rich a/f ratio is going to decrease your gas mileage as well.

Also, in regards to cooler air: Running your coolant 15* cooler isn't necessarily going to decrease your underhood temps either.

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Old 01-13-2010, 05:51 PM
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Originally Posted by chibiblacksheep
That's where I live :P
That's where I lived for about 10 years! North Philly and South West Philly. It can be a very rough town. But I had nothing but fun while I lived there. I might move back if things go south here in Oklahoma.
 
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This is because chichi's pcm is tuned for the fan turn on points to kick in at 180* to match his thermostat. Stock fan turn on points are 212*, which is about halfway on the gauge.
Yup, that's totally correct. I haven't mess with mine yet but, once I do the mods I've planned for the car, it'll get tuned as well but won't go as low as 180* in the winter.
 
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Old 01-13-2010, 07:09 PM
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you think ill really notice a difference in winter? i drive 4 miles to school, and next year ill be living at school
 
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Old 01-13-2010, 09:48 PM
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i got a 180, temp goes to the first line after 1/4 way up and stays there. never moves lol. dont really need my heat too much here in S.F. dont have snow just cold mornings but thats why i have a butt heater. it honestly doesnt really effect my heater too much, but then again i dont really use it, just my defrost, and it still works great.
 
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Old 01-14-2010, 06:39 AM
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Originally Posted by Quatermain N/A SS
Mostly I want this system for the sound.
IMHO, it's a waste of money on an N/A car, as the stock exhaust will support 400hp. It WILL make the exhaust SLIGHTLY louder.

I myself would start with the OBVIOUS problems, that being the highly restrictive airbox and the u-bend in the exhaust. Install a fenderwell intake and a U-bend delete pipe, and save the rest for a top swap, and go from there.

$700 is a LOT of $$$ for ZERO performance gain.
 
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you think ill really notice a difference in winter?
Location: Wisconsin
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it honestly doesnt really effect my heater too much, but then again i dont really use it, just my defrost, and it still works great.
Location: S.F. Bay Area

IMO you really can't compare heater performance in CA vs WI- its quite a different thing when its 0* outside and you've got a quarter inch of ice on the windshield.
 
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Old 01-14-2010, 08:08 PM
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im just saying, the heater in the car kicks in at 100 or whatever by the time i get to school my thermometer is at like a quarter of the way, it doesnt make it all the way, so im thinking in the summer its gonna be a decent gain
 
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Old 01-16-2010, 08:47 PM
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I spent the cash for Corsa cat back.....you know where that extra went

For 700...I think I would start with cai and go from there
....pretty stuff is cheaper than motor stuff...in my opinion
 

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Old 01-17-2010, 02:11 PM
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Wow...this thread got a lot more replies than I was expecting. I'd actually completely forgotten about the downpipe with u-bend delete. Thanks to everyone's suggestions I have a clearer idea of what I'm going to do to get a mild power gain and a better sound.

CAI, Downpipe (with U-bend delete), SLP Cat-back exhaust, 180* stat. Should be around $1,000 for all that, so I may have to wait longer to do the install, but I see a much more satisfied driver at the other end. Again, I thank everyone for their feedback.
 
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