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Old Jul 23, 2012 | 02:53 PM
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Originally Posted by ChibiBlackSheep
I know... I have more mileage than Frank did, it's just un-nerving
Totally understand where your coming from there. It'll be interesting to see if frank can find out the exact cause of the motor failure. This also reminds me I should change my trans fluid/filter and check everything on my car I've been meaning to do it but spaced it off since I rarely drive it.
 
Old Jul 23, 2012 | 03:02 PM
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Originally Posted by ChibiBlackSheep
I know... I have more mileage than Frank did, it's just un-nerving
how much is on yours now mike?

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Hi `Frank, $450 is a decent price `if it's a decent engine..Do you know or trust this guy ? Does he give any guarantee ?
Is he in the business of selling used engines or is he a private individual ? If he's in business check his records..It's better to be safe then sorry...Have you seen the engine yet ?

Don't rush `if you're not sure about it...You don't want to do a lot of work & spend your hard earned money & later find out it's a bad engine...I know you want to get it back on the road, but it's better to take you time & make sure things are right...It sure pays to do your homework..Good Luck & ask a lot of questions of everyone involved 4-Sure..
well i found it on Craigslist lol
here's the link

>> LOW MILES 3800 3.8 engine impala monte Carlo motor
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and i will be asking him a lot of questions about it. it's almost a 2 hour drive from me so hopefully its a good motor. all the junkyards around here want $650 and up for motors with over 100k miles

Originally Posted by ChibiBlackSheep
I just talked to Jason, hopefully he'll pop on right now. He can give you a pretty good deal on that engine

Let's do some research right now and see how easy an L26 bolts up to your stock transmission and if any PCM programming needs to be done

Ninja Edit:

You just need to buy this: ZZPerformance - Gen 5 to L67/L36 Throttle Body Adapter Plate #ZZ-GEN5L67L36-TBA
so the series 3 trans will work with my PCM no problem? that would be pretty awesome! lol
hmmmmmm

Originally Posted by BlackRainSS
Totally understand where your coming from there. It'll be interesting to see if frank can find out the exact cause of the motor failure. This also reminds me I should change my trans fluid/filter and check everything on my car I've been meaning to do it but spaced it off since I rarely drive it.
im going to keep my old motor and tear it completely apart to see what i find
then i'll probably just throw it away :p
 
Old Jul 23, 2012 | 03:09 PM
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Lol you could always scrap it instead of just tossing it out. Sounds like a plan to me though I'd be the same way. I'd tear that sucker apart just to find out what went wrong.
 
Old Jul 23, 2012 | 03:09 PM
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Why wouldn't you keep the transmission you have now since you just did work on it? lol
 
Old Jul 23, 2012 | 03:17 PM
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FYI - I just sent Frank a PM (so Frank if you are interested, just PM me, we'll work out the rest). I'm also willing to seperate the trans.

A big draw for S3 is that the parts are forged not cast (from what I hear). So tougher inards.

As for the S3, if what I read from the Bonnie folks, the '04 S2 is really a S3 with a S2 UIM. To put this S3 into you Monte, you have two main options:
- Get an adaptor plate and a L67 t-body
- Take off the aluminum UIM and put the S2 plastic UIM and t-body on
(as Chibi said, i believe you also have to bring your fuel rail and injectors)

As for the rest, swap sensors and wiring harness over, drop it in. Done. This is based on some light research I've done in the past.

As for the trans, because the donor car of my drivetrain is an '04, I believe it has the same trans, but I don't know gearing or any other details.

Any engine you get, that you have NOT heard running, I would advise doing some tear down and inspection. Pull the oil pan, pull the heads (it's a little in new gaskets, but do some basic checks OR completely re-build).
 
Old Jul 23, 2012 | 03:28 PM
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Hi `Frank I hope you do ask him a lot of question & ask for references on who he has sold to before...Like other auto shops etc. Craigslist has some scary horror stories 4-Sure...
Be Smart/Safe & verify...Good Luck 4-Sure

I ran his phone number & it comes back to Cocoa Florida on US 1 just south of State Route 520...You would take beach line east to US 1 & go South on US 1 for about 4-5 Miles..

Ask for a business address & if he is licensed.
I ran his number on this site below & got his machine.
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Old Jul 23, 2012 | 03:29 PM
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Originally Posted by BlackRainSS
Lol you could always scrap it instead of just tossing it out. Sounds like a plan to me though I'd be the same way. I'd tear that sucker apart just to find out what went wrong.
and plus you can always learn new things

Originally Posted by ChibiBlackSheep
Why wouldn't you keep the transmission you have now since you just did work on it? lol
i havent done work on it lol i wanna change out the solenoids once the motor is out

Originally Posted by The_Maniac
FYI - I just sent Frank a PM (so Frank if you are interested, just PM me, we'll work out the rest). I'm also willing to seperate the trans.

A big draw for S3 is that the parts are forged not cast (from what I hear). So tougher inards.

As for the S3, if what I read from the Bonnie folks, the '04 S2 is really a S3 with a S2 UIM. To put this S3 into you Monte, you have two main options:
- Get an adaptor plate and a L67 t-body
- Take off the aluminum UIM and put the S2 plastic UIM and t-body on
(as Chibi said, i believe you also have to bring your fuel rail and injectors)

As for the rest, swap sensors and wiring harness over, drop it in. Done. This is based on some light research I've done in the past.

As for the trans, because the donor car of my drivetrain is an '04, I believe it has the same trans, but I don't know gearing or any other details.

Any engine you get, that you have NOT heard running, I would advise doing some tear down and inspection. Pull the oil pan, pull the heads (it's a little in new gaskets, but do some basic checks OR completely re-build).
Thanks for the info Jason i pm'd you back

and idk about this engine im looking at, i still have to talk some more with the dude
 
Old Jul 23, 2012 | 03:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Space
Hi `Frank I hope you do ask him a lot of question & ask for references on who he has sold to before...Like other auto shops etc. Craigslist has some scary horror stories 4-Sure...
Be Smart/Safe & verify...Good Luck 4-Sure

I ran his phone number & it comes back to Cocoa Florida on US 1 just south of State Route 520...You would take beach line east to US 1 & go South on US 1 for about 4-5 Miles..

Ask for a business address & if he is licensed.
I ran his number on this site below & he got a machine.
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Detective Space thanks man and yup it is cocoa, i'll probably go check it out tomorrow
 
Old Jul 23, 2012 | 03:36 PM
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LoL `Frank, I just don't want you to get ripped `off 4-Sure...
We would have to get our Monte Carlo Gang together & take care of him `if he tries...LOL...Keep us updated & good luck
4-Sure...
 

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Old Jul 23, 2012 | 03:38 PM
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We can all roll up in our Montes and hunt him down.

Except you Frank... yours still wouldn't be running?

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