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Been away for a bit, but I've saved the money and now I'm looking for the L67

Old Jul 1, 2010 | 05:36 PM
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Default Been away for a bit, but I've saved the money and now I'm looking for the L67

So I've talked to Morad Motor Parts on Ebay and he's willing to work with me. My question is this.
Since I'm doing the L67 Swap for my 98 Z34. What exactly do I need to get from Morad?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/3-8l-...Q5fAccessories

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http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/3-8l-...Q5fAccessories

I'm still pretty noob when it comes to car engines. I'm having my uncle install all of this for me so I'm not really worried about the installation just yet. I just need to know exactly what to get lol.
 
Old Jul 1, 2010 | 07:04 PM
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First off, how bad/old is your current engine/trans? Not sure if you know it or not, but since you already have a 3800- you can do a "top swap" and replace the whole top end of your engine with the supercharged top end. All the parts needed can be had for $500 or so.

Secondly, assuming your engine is shot- I assume your trans is also- in which case you're better off buying a whole powertrain - engine and trans together (well plus the one axle inner as I mention in the swap guide). If you go this route, you obviously need the complete engine and trans- plus the other stuff I listed in my writeup (like the L67 swap wiring kit, etc).

Morad's is nice because he always has the stuff in stock; but his prices are way high. I'd only use him if you absolutely can't find anything local or on the forums, and you need it ASAP.

For example, that $3300 for the complete powertrain could easily get you a running, driving 97-99 GTP (granted probably with closer to 100k miles)- but that is still a whole car (not to mention that $3300 is probably more than your whole car is worth depending on mileage).

Also, you can look into getting a lower mileage wreck. If you have a GTP with 50-75k miles thats worth about $5000- how much do you think its worth if it is totalled? You can usually pick them up around $1500 or less depending how bad the damage was. The 98 GTP I bought for $1500 (and this was years ago) had about 70k or so miles, and was only totalled by damage down the drivers side (ie no engine bay damage).

Even if you just want an engine/trans, I'd keep my eye out on clubgp for a few months to see what pops up.
 
Old Jul 1, 2010 | 07:25 PM
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Originally Posted by bumpin96monte
First off, how bad/old is your current engine/trans? Not sure if you know it or not, but since you already have a 3800- you can do a "top swap" and replace the whole top end of your engine with the supercharged top end. All the parts needed can be had for $500 or so.
The engine has almost 200k miles on it so I'm probably not going to do the top swap.

Originally Posted by bumpin96monte
Secondly, assuming your engine is shot- I assume your trans is also- in which case you're better off buying a whole powertrain - engine and trans together (well plus the one axle inner as I mention in the swap guide). If you go this route, you obviously need the complete engine and trans- plus the other stuff I listed in my writeup (like the L67 swap wiring kit, etc).
Hmm.. so I'm assuming the much more expensive link I provided is probably the option I have to go then?


Morad's is nice because he always has the stuff in stock; but his prices are way high. I'd only use him if you absolutely can't find anything local or on the forums, and you need it ASAP.

Originally Posted by bumpin96monte
For example, that $3300 for the complete powertrain could easily get you a running, driving 97-99 GTP (granted probably with closer to 100k miles)- but that is still a whole car (not to mention that $3300 is probably more than your whole car is worth depending on mileage).

Also, you can look into getting a lower mileage wreck. If you have a GTP with 50-75k miles thats worth about $5000- how much do you think its worth if it is totalled? You can usually pick them up around $1500 or less depending how bad the damage was. The 98 GTP I bought for $1500 (and this was years ago) had about 70k or so miles, and was only totalled by damage down the drivers side (ie no engine bay damage).

Even if you just want an engine/trans, I'd keep my eye out on clubgp for a few months to see what pops up.
Yeah definitely, I've looked for several GTP's on Craigslist and things like that and I haven't really found anything, but doesn't mean I've given up, of course I'll keep looking

But around what year should I stop on (for the GTP's??)
Unless they are all 3800 3.8 V6's..

edit: found quite a bit of GTP's for around the same price as what Morad is asking
http://sanantonio.craigslist.org/sea...rix&srchType=A

I mean, say I do take the engine out and do the swap. What do I do with the GTP after it's all said and done? lol...
 

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Old Jul 1, 2010 | 09:34 PM
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mm.. so I'm assuming the much more expensive link I provided is probably the option I have to go then?
If your ONLY option was Morad, then yes- you need the more expensive one. You could use your current trans, but if it has 200k like the engine, its garbage too then.

Yeah definitely, I've looked for several GTP's on Craigslist and things like that and I haven't really found anything, but doesn't mean I've given up, of course I'll keep looking
You need to first expand your search much beyond craigslist. I got my part car GP off clubgp.com/forum. Also try searching 3800pro, and all the various grand prix and wbody sites. It shouldn't take more than a couple months to come up with something.

It took me about 5 months to find the car I wanted, but I also needed it to be relatively close since it was totalled and undriveable.

But around what year should I stop on (for the GTP's??)
Unless they are all 3800 3.8 V6's..
I'd start at 98, and you can get any GTP from that year and newer. If you get an 04+, even better- but chances are the budget ones will be the older ones.

edit: found quite a bit of GTP's for around the same price as what Morad is asking
http://sanantonio.craigslist.org/sea...rix&srchType=A

I mean, say I do take the engine out and do the swap. What do I do with the GTP after it's all said and done? lol...
You have a few options-

A) Leave the engine where it is, and drive the GTP. That saves the time and money swapping, and gives you some other upgrades over your monte (like the DIC, HUD, heated leather, stiffer suspension, etc etc). Plus you can get more suspension parts and such for the 2nd gen wbodys.

B) Part it out. You're not going to get much for the parts (unless they're in really good shape)- but say you were going to buy an engine/trans for $3000- and found a whole driveable car for about the same- you've already broken even, so even if you only get $500 parting the car out, you'll still be ahead. The wheels, HUD, and any straight body panels should be easy enough to sell. But I got back probably $350 in parts I sold after buying that car- and I left the rolling shell for the owner to dispose of (only took what I could fit in my Impala).
 
Old Jul 1, 2010 | 10:17 PM
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Originally Posted by bumpin96monte


You have a few options-

A) Leave the engine where it is, and drive the GTP. That saves the time and money swapping, and gives you some other upgrades over your monte (like the DIC, HUD, heated leather, stiffer suspension, etc etc). Plus you can get more suspension parts and such for the 2nd gen wbodys.
That sounds like a good idea actually...
http://sanantonio.craigslist.org/ctd/1819052845.html

don't like the color too much but I think I'm just going to see whats up with that car and we'll see what happens from there...
Thanks!!
 
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