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6th Gen ('00-'05): 2002 Monte Carlo LS Turbo

Old Feb 19, 2015 | 06:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Tobian46
Hey maniac i have a 3800 series II N/A and i'm lookin for a supercharger kit for it. i know zzp sells one but UPS charges insane brokerage fees on stuff coming into canada. do you know of any company that offers this kit and uses USPS for shipping
This is going off topic and should be it's own thread. But regardless, I don't have any answers for you about that. I'm not sure what companies are willing to ship from U.S. to Canada or which ones will use USPS vs UPS. Sorry

If you want to get junk yard parts, you may want to play with Car-Part.com--Used Auto Parts Market. It may help you source junk yards that you might even get an entire L67 from. Food for thought.
 
Old Feb 19, 2015 | 06:44 PM
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Originally Posted by mikeRAGE
I have considered doing a swap too but the problem is that I can't find an engine with decent mileage. I found the 5.3 ls4 motor from an 06 SS for $900 but no trans or wiring to go with it
I don't know the full ins and out of an LS4 swap (I think I've only seen one person try it and that had a full donor car). Because of all the computer equipment, I think an LS4 swap would be a big under taking and unless you get a full donor car cheap, it may be a costly swap.
 
Old Feb 19, 2015 | 08:54 PM
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Originally Posted by mikeRAGE
I don't want to spend more than 3K on this car, at absolute maximum.
Honestly, if that's your limit, I wouldn't even bother considering a turbo.

Even a base 3800 kit runs $2500 w/o IC, $3500 w/ IC + injectors + tuning. If you're thinking about buying a kit and modding it to fit, your budget is nearly blown just on the parts. Unless you've got a welder and a tuner, you're going to pay a shop a good bit of money to custom fab it to fit.

If you tried to make your own kit, a good turbo is an easy $1500, and they can get over $2k for some of the nicer head units. Again, if you were able to do 100% of the fab work yourself (ie had a welder and a bender), you might be able to come close- but if you're paying someone to fab any of this stuff, you're going to burn through what budget you had left rather quick. Sure you could skimp on some garbage ebay turbo, but why would you do something like that if you really are as attached to the car as you say you are? Sure the turbo may just lock up, but what if it comes apart and sends a bunch of trash into your engine? There is a reason why none of the major turbo kit manufacturers use those turbos.

The other thing this all leaves out is the trans. If your cap is $3k- it will literally be impossible to get a properly built trans and a turbo kit for that money. Even if you bought the cheapest ebay garbage you could find and did all the fab work yourself.


I agree with the 3800 swap idea, but you're going to have to be open to traveling a bit to get something with decent mileage, and may even end up just buying a totaled GP.

If you already feel like you've exhausted that option and still want 300 whp, I would suggest adding nitrous. You could spray a 150 shot and be pretty close to your goal, and a complete kit with reasonable safety features can be had for 1/3 of your budget. That would leave the other 2/3 to go towards your new trans fund and nitrous fills.
 
Old Feb 27, 2015 | 01:37 PM
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Thank you to everyone that responded to this thread.

I might have to put together my own kit eventually to match my budget, here is what I'm thinking:

Turbo headers from Milzy: ~$600-700
Stock transmission for now
Turbo Piping? Need to find good quality pipes
Intercooler? Need suggestions for this too
and as for the turbo, I'm not really sure what's good, please give examples

I decided that I will have to wait on this for a little bit, but in the future this will be a great thread for me to come back to since I've gotten most of my questions answered.

Again,
Thanks to everyone and have a great day!
 
Old Mar 1, 2015 | 05:55 PM
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I wouldn't even bother doing anything unless you get a built trans.

Hot side turbo piping will want to be at least 2.5" if not 3" in stainless steel. Will have to be custom bent and welded to fit your application.

Intercooler: I use treadstone and love it. Ic piping treadstone sells pipe sections and silicone adapters so you can buy the piping you need to plumb the system. Be sure to use t bolt clamps on ic pipes.

turbo: I have a turbonetics t66 right now and my previous turbo was a precision pt61. Both great turbo's

don't forget your BOV and waste gate. Also fuel upgrades and a tune.
 
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