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Old Aug 22, 2010 | 08:33 PM
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Monteman, I bet the heads are Patriots as to they have no name on them. Either that or they are some kind of in-house heads that they make.
 
Old Aug 22, 2010 | 08:53 PM
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if thats the case this thing should move and most certainly is not a 250hp motor.
 
Old Aug 22, 2010 | 10:07 PM
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I agree with you that thing should move. He has alot of experimenting to do to get that thing to hook and run the times it should.
 
Old Aug 23, 2010 | 07:51 AM
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Thanks again for all the info guys. I am having a buddy of mine look it all over this week. I changed out my bad wires and it seemed to help, I also found that my fuel line from my pump to the carb on both end was loose enough to spin the hose clamps by hand so I tightened those. It definintly seems to have more power but I am still not sure what it is running. After i have him look it over and get it tuned in, I am going to have it dynoed.

The heads are Edelbrock. I talked to the Smeding rep for my plug specs and he told me to gap at .045 do you guys think that is to much, he also told me that my times were close because my car is 4200 lbs . Like I said already in this post I am not much of a mechanic, but am willing to attemt anything, so the last couple of weeks have been fun.
 
Old Aug 23, 2010 | 02:41 PM
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the SSs are a little heavier than the standard montes but it in no way should brake the 4000lbs mark. i think mine weighs in at 3300lbs. granted its a differnent gen a little shorter and what not but i doubt that your car weighs anymore than 3700lbs with you in it. with the tq that that motor is supposed to produce it probably needs a drag radial to hook. it makes power down low so its not like it has to leave the hole all that hard. they made a few different edelbrock heads. if its the rpms they made a couple different ones of those too. you might want to look for numbers or contact them directly for a way to id them. they should say edelbrock rpm on them and have a casting on them up front. they had one set that was fairly compairable to the sportsman IIs im running but are aluminum and fairly decent.
 
Old Aug 23, 2010 | 04:46 PM
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If they were Edelbrock they would say it right on the front of the head. And in their ad those heads are bare. Kinda makes me skeptical. Gapping them at .045 might work also. I would try them at .045 and run it at the track. See, if it wakes it up any. Also, THERE IS NO WAY YOUR CAR WEIGHS 4000lbs. The old long mid 70's maybe but not yours. It should weigh bone stock no more than 3500. And that is at it's heaviest with a stock motor and accesories on it. Yours should be a little lighter due to the aluminum heads. But, won't be a real big difference. Are you running a bone stock fuel pump? I would run a Holley mechanical at the least or an Edelbrock on. Get rid of the stock one. And install a fuel pressure gauge on the wheel well to set the fuel PSI for the car at 6-6.5 that is all it needs to run properly.

Like Monteman said if they were Edelbrocks then you would be running nice times. Tires are going to help you immensly. When you are coming off the line don't load the suspension. Just let it idle and barely give it any gas while holding the brakes at the line. It should barely come up a 100-200 rpms if that. Then when the 3rd amber light comes on smash the pedal and let her roar. Shift at 5600 and hold her to the floor. This should help your sixty times alot. Let me know if I can help you out anymore.
 
Old Aug 24, 2010 | 12:51 PM
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i dont know if id want to flash the convertor like that. if anything i would come out a few hundred under stall and walk it out a bit before really getting into it. at least thats what ive always done with mine. and even then 1st is almost useless. that 700 and the 370s out back make it hard to hook up on a street tire even like that. how wide of a tire are you running and at what psi? i agree with the fuel pump deal but i assume it would have came with one when you got it. i was running a hi flow carter when we first built my motor but once it went i stepped up to the holley. i definitely would do some research on this motor. im dying to find out what heads are on it. i think once you get the fuel and timing right this thing should be a decent street fighter. whens the next trip to the track planned? and i want to see some videos of this thing in action. also im sure its in this thread but im typing and cant go back to check but in what gear are you crossing the lights in? shifting at 5600 seems a little conservative. i cant look at the sheet now but i have to imagine that that roller still makes power into the 6k range.
 
Old Aug 24, 2010 | 04:32 PM
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The reason I said to try and flash the converter is that I used to load the chassis pretty good and come off the line right under my stall in the converter. But, since I started to flash the converter is actually dropped my sixty by two tenths. That and I pulled my first wheel stand by flashing the converter. Your car really isn't going to sixty at all on street tires unless they are some BFG's and they are a soft compound. Then it might stick better. If you continue to run street tires then over inflate them by about 5 psi. This will give you a bit larger foot print for your launch. Just remember to take it out when you drive home. I mentioned shifting at 5600 due to that is where according to his sheet your motor peaks out at. I know I shift around 5800 with my 406. But, it still pulls hard until 7200. I would hope that the guy before you has added some kind of aftermarket fuel pump if not then you need to jump on that now. Don't lean it out and melt a piston. Can you snap a real close up of the front of your heads so we can help you identify what they really are?
 
Old Aug 24, 2010 | 05:56 PM
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ive never really tried to flash it. then again im always afraid to put a radial or a slick on the car. 406 you still running the factory carrier and axles? now im kinda curious on your combo. im wondering how similar it is to mine? even though i know no one likes to tell all about there secret weapon. with mine im shifting a little higher than you at around 6 6100 range. agreed mine also still makes power into the 7s but theres no real need to turn it that hard. op sorry for the thread jack keep us updated.
 
Old Aug 24, 2010 | 09:25 PM
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Monte I am still running the factory axels but, I am running a Richmond 3.73 gear and an Auburn posi unit. I have a buddy that runs an entire factory rear with a 383 and he pulls the front tires off the ground and carries them for about 10ft. It runs in the low 11.20's. Not to shabby for a measly 7.5 rear. Are you wondering about my motor combo? I'll tell you mine if you tell me yours LOL.
 

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