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Hi Member's, if you were buying one of the below (after you hit the Lotto) Which one would you buy ?
2013 BMW M5 vs. 2012 Cadillac CTS-V- Comparison Test
Forced-induction fisticuffs, with combatants from America and Germany.
By Shaun Bailey / Photos by Brian Blades
June 20, 2012
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<!-- /Main photo wrapper --><!-- test output end: --><!-- the article, at a glance, downloads, top competitors, from buying guide --><!-- left column -->It’s tough to be the king. Sit upon a throne long enough and someone’s bound to come along and try to knock you off—as was the case in the summer of 2008 when Cadillac released its all-new CTS-V to challenge the nearly 4-year-old sports sedan king, the BMW M5 (2009 Cadillac CTS-V vs. 2008 BMW M5 SMG). It was a historic moment that has helped to redefine Cadillac’s image. GM’s luxury division made no bones about it in 2008, as it specifically developed the CTS-V to knock the 2005–2010 E60 M5 off its pedestal. BMW graciously rose to the challenge and fought it out with the upstart on the racetrack, the BMW driven by Bill Auberlen and the CTS-V by John Heinricy. Not surprisingly, the CTS-V narrowly edged out the M5. If it hadn’t, we suspect someone in Cadillac’s engineering department would have been fired. Fast forward and BMW is now ready for some payback with its new F10 M5.
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This time, however, we’ve skipped inviting the pro drivers in favor of driving ourselves. We wrangled up the first manual-transmission BMW M5 in the U.S. and took it to Spring Mountain Motorsports Ranch in Pahrump, Nevada, where the CTS-V—now in its fourth year—stoically waited to get its clock cleaned. Turnabout is fair play, and the boys at Cadillac know it; it’s put up or shut up with these two. As icing on the cake, we did some back-road driving and then performed acceleration testing on the 7-speed MDCT-equipped M5 for good measure. On track, it’s all about the 6-speed manuals and an apples-to-apples comparison brawl that left these two blacker and bluer than when they arrived. ...Continued...
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Hi Member's, if you were buying one of the below (after you hit the Lotto) Which one would you buy ?
2013 BMW M5 vs. 2012 Cadillac CTS-V- Comparison Test
Forced-induction fisticuffs, with combatants from America and Germany.
By Shaun Bailey / Photos by Brian Blades
June 20, 2012
Slideshow >>
Video >>
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<!-- /Main photo wrapper --><!-- test output end: --><!-- the article, at a glance, downloads, top competitors, from buying guide --><!-- left column -->It’s tough to be the king. Sit upon a throne long enough and someone’s bound to come along and try to knock you off—as was the case in the summer of 2008 when Cadillac released its all-new CTS-V to challenge the nearly 4-year-old sports sedan king, the BMW M5 (2009 Cadillac CTS-V vs. 2008 BMW M5 SMG). It was a historic moment that has helped to redefine Cadillac’s image. GM’s luxury division made no bones about it in 2008, as it specifically developed the CTS-V to knock the 2005–2010 E60 M5 off its pedestal. BMW graciously rose to the challenge and fought it out with the upstart on the racetrack, the BMW driven by Bill Auberlen and the CTS-V by John Heinricy. Not surprisingly, the CTS-V narrowly edged out the M5. If it hadn’t, we suspect someone in Cadillac’s engineering department would have been fired. Fast forward and BMW is now ready for some payback with its new F10 M5.
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This time, however, we’ve skipped inviting the pro drivers in favor of driving ourselves. We wrangled up the first manual-transmission BMW M5 in the U.S. and took it to Spring Mountain Motorsports Ranch in Pahrump, Nevada, where the CTS-V—now in its fourth year—stoically waited to get its clock cleaned. Turnabout is fair play, and the boys at Cadillac know it; it’s put up or shut up with these two. As icing on the cake, we did some back-road driving and then performed acceleration testing on the 7-speed MDCT-equipped M5 for good measure. On track, it’s all about the 6-speed manuals and an apples-to-apples comparison brawl that left these two blacker and bluer than when they arrived. ...Continued...
2013 BMW M5 vs. 2012 Cadillac CTS-V
2013 BMW M5 vs. 2012 Cadillac CTS-V
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</TD></TR><TR><TD></TD></TR><TR><TD>2012 Cadillac CTS-V >></TD></TR><TR><TD>
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</TD></TR><TR><TD></TD></TR><TR><TD>The Results >></TD></TR><TR><TD>
</TD></TR><TR><TD></TD></TR><TR><TD>Photos
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2012 Cadillac CTS-V >>
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2013 BMW M5 >>
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<TABLE id=result border=0 width=500><TBODY><TR><TD colSpan=4><CENTER>The Results
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</TD></TR><TR><TD id=heading colSpan=4>PERFORMANCE</TD></TR><TR id=bold><TD colSpan=4>Performance points based on proportional scale (normalization).</TD></TR><TR><TD>
</TD><TD width=70>Points</TD><TD width=100>2013 BMW M5</TD><TD width=100>2012 Cadillac CTS-V</TD></TR><TR><TD>0-60 mph</TD><TD>30 pts</TD><TD>30.0</TD><TD>29.3</TD></TR><TR><TD>0–1/4 mile</TD><TD>30 pts</TD><TD>30.0</TD><TD>29.5</TD></TR><TR><TD>Slalom</TD><TD>30 pts</TD><TD>30.0</TD><TD>29.8</TD></TR><TR><TD>Skidpad</TD><TD>30 pts</TD><TD>30.0</TD><TD>29.1</TD></TR><TR><TD>Braking, 60–0 mph</TD><TD>30 pts</TD><TD>30.0</TD><TD>29.7</TD></TR><TR><TD>Braking, 80–0 mph</TD><TD>30 pts</TD><TD>30.0</TD><TD>30.0</TD></TR><TR><TD>Fuel economy, EPA</TD><TD>20 pts</TD><TD>20.0</TD><TD>16.9</TD></TR><TR><TD>SUBTOTAL</TD><TD>200 pts</TD><TD>200.0</TD><TD>194.3</TD></TR><TR><TD>
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</TD></TR><TR><TD id=heading colSpan=4>SUBJECTIVE</TD></TR><TR><TD colSpan=4>Subjective ratings based on points awarded in each of 12 categories by editors and scored based on a proportional scale.</TD></TR><TR><TD>Driving excitement</TD><TD>20 pts</TD><TD>17.9</TD><TD>20.0</TD></TR><TR><TD>Engine</TD><TD>20 pts</TD><TD>20.0</TD><TD>18.9</TD></TR><TR><TD>Gearbox</TD><TD>20 pts</TD><TD>17.9</TD><TD>20.0</TD></TR><TR><TD>Steering</TD><TD>20 pts</TD><TD>16.8</TD><TD>20.0</TD></TR><TR><TD>Brakes</TD><TD>20 pts</TD><TD>17.9</TD><TD>20.0</TD></TR><TR><TD>Ride</TD><TD>20 pts</TD><TD>20.0</TD><TD>16.8</TD></TR><TR><TD>Handling</TD><TD>20 pts</TD><TD>16.7</TD><TD>20.0</TD></TR><TR><TD>Exterior styling</TD><TD>15 pts</TD><TD>13.4</TD><TD>15.0</TD></TR><TR><TD>Interior styling</TD><TD>15 pts</TD><TD>15.0</TD><TD>14.1</TD></TR><TR><TD>Seats</TD><TD>10 pts</TD><TD>10.0</TD><TD>7.4</TD></TR><TR><TD>Ergonomics/ controls</TD><TD>10 pts</TD><TD>10.0</TD><TD>9.4</TD></TR><TR><TD>Luggage space</TD><TD>10 pts</TD><TD>10.0</TD><TD>8.9</TD></TR><TR><TD>SUBTOTAL</TD><TD>200 pts</TD><TD>185.6</TD><TD>190.5</TD></TR><TR><TD>
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</TD><TD>
</TD></TR><TR><TD id=heading colSpan=4>POINTS STANDINGS</TD></TR><TR><TD colSpan=4>Points based on a proportional scale, independent of price. </TD></TR><TR><TD>Total Points</TD><TD>400 pts</TD><TD>385.6</TD><TD>384.8</TD></TR><TR><TD>FINAL STANDINGS</TD><TD>
</TD><TD>1</TD><TD>2</TD></TR><TR><TD>
</TD><TD>
</TD><TD>
</TD><TD>
</TD></TR><TR><TD id=heading colSpan=4>STANDINGS, PRICE DEPENDENT</TD></TR><TR><TD colSpan=4>Points based on a proportional scale; points range based on percentage of top price. </TD></TR><TR><TD>Price as tested</TD><TD>200 pts</TD><TD>186.8</TD><TD>200.0</TD></TR><TR><TD>
</TD><TD>
</TD><TD>$97,047</TD><TD>$71,505 </TD></TR><TR><TD colSpan=2>Price-sensitive total points</TD><TD>572.4</TD><TD>584.8</TD></TR><TR><TD colSpan=2>Price-sensitive standings</TD><TD>2</TD><TD>1</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>
In My Opinion
On the track, the Cadillac CTS-V hits all the right notes—good power, livelier chassis and steering feel. That is until you look at the lap times and realize that the BMW M5 is much faster, and achieves that speed in a more civilized manner. This is even more evident on the road, where the M5’s ride is daily-commute friendly and the CTS-V beats you up a bit. My overall pick goes to the M5.
—Patrick Hong
Executive Editor
The M5 is the best-handling 7 Series BMW has ever made. Yeah, I know it’s a 5 Series, but it’s just so big, and soft, and comfortable and stomping fast. It’s high-performance luxury at its pinnacle, and for that reason I’ll take the CTS-V. It’s a sports sedan like the previous-generation BMW M5, where driver interaction and enjoyment take precedence over passenger comfort and isolation.
—Shaun Bailey
Associate Engineering Editor
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</TD></TR><TR><TD id=heading colSpan=4>PERFORMANCE</TD></TR><TR id=bold><TD colSpan=4>Performance points based on proportional scale (normalization).</TD></TR><TR><TD>
</TD><TD width=70>Points</TD><TD width=100>2013 BMW M5</TD><TD width=100>2012 Cadillac CTS-V</TD></TR><TR><TD>0-60 mph</TD><TD>30 pts</TD><TD>30.0</TD><TD>29.3</TD></TR><TR><TD>0–1/4 mile</TD><TD>30 pts</TD><TD>30.0</TD><TD>29.5</TD></TR><TR><TD>Slalom</TD><TD>30 pts</TD><TD>30.0</TD><TD>29.8</TD></TR><TR><TD>Skidpad</TD><TD>30 pts</TD><TD>30.0</TD><TD>29.1</TD></TR><TR><TD>Braking, 60–0 mph</TD><TD>30 pts</TD><TD>30.0</TD><TD>29.7</TD></TR><TR><TD>Braking, 80–0 mph</TD><TD>30 pts</TD><TD>30.0</TD><TD>30.0</TD></TR><TR><TD>Fuel economy, EPA</TD><TD>20 pts</TD><TD>20.0</TD><TD>16.9</TD></TR><TR><TD>SUBTOTAL</TD><TD>200 pts</TD><TD>200.0</TD><TD>194.3</TD></TR><TR><TD>
</TD><TD>
</TD><TD>
</TD><TD>
</TD></TR><TR><TD id=heading colSpan=4>SUBJECTIVE</TD></TR><TR><TD colSpan=4>Subjective ratings based on points awarded in each of 12 categories by editors and scored based on a proportional scale.</TD></TR><TR><TD>Driving excitement</TD><TD>20 pts</TD><TD>17.9</TD><TD>20.0</TD></TR><TR><TD>Engine</TD><TD>20 pts</TD><TD>20.0</TD><TD>18.9</TD></TR><TR><TD>Gearbox</TD><TD>20 pts</TD><TD>17.9</TD><TD>20.0</TD></TR><TR><TD>Steering</TD><TD>20 pts</TD><TD>16.8</TD><TD>20.0</TD></TR><TR><TD>Brakes</TD><TD>20 pts</TD><TD>17.9</TD><TD>20.0</TD></TR><TR><TD>Ride</TD><TD>20 pts</TD><TD>20.0</TD><TD>16.8</TD></TR><TR><TD>Handling</TD><TD>20 pts</TD><TD>16.7</TD><TD>20.0</TD></TR><TR><TD>Exterior styling</TD><TD>15 pts</TD><TD>13.4</TD><TD>15.0</TD></TR><TR><TD>Interior styling</TD><TD>15 pts</TD><TD>15.0</TD><TD>14.1</TD></TR><TR><TD>Seats</TD><TD>10 pts</TD><TD>10.0</TD><TD>7.4</TD></TR><TR><TD>Ergonomics/ controls</TD><TD>10 pts</TD><TD>10.0</TD><TD>9.4</TD></TR><TR><TD>Luggage space</TD><TD>10 pts</TD><TD>10.0</TD><TD>8.9</TD></TR><TR><TD>SUBTOTAL</TD><TD>200 pts</TD><TD>185.6</TD><TD>190.5</TD></TR><TR><TD>
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</TD></TR><TR><TD id=heading colSpan=4>POINTS STANDINGS</TD></TR><TR><TD colSpan=4>Points based on a proportional scale, independent of price. </TD></TR><TR><TD>Total Points</TD><TD>400 pts</TD><TD>385.6</TD><TD>384.8</TD></TR><TR><TD>FINAL STANDINGS</TD><TD>
</TD><TD>1</TD><TD>2</TD></TR><TR><TD>
</TD><TD>
</TD><TD>
</TD><TD>
</TD></TR><TR><TD id=heading colSpan=4>STANDINGS, PRICE DEPENDENT</TD></TR><TR><TD colSpan=4>Points based on a proportional scale; points range based on percentage of top price. </TD></TR><TR><TD>Price as tested</TD><TD>200 pts</TD><TD>186.8</TD><TD>200.0</TD></TR><TR><TD>
</TD><TD>
</TD><TD>$97,047</TD><TD>$71,505 </TD></TR><TR><TD colSpan=2>Price-sensitive total points</TD><TD>572.4</TD><TD>584.8</TD></TR><TR><TD colSpan=2>Price-sensitive standings</TD><TD>2</TD><TD>1</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>
In My Opinion
On the track, the Cadillac CTS-V hits all the right notes—good power, livelier chassis and steering feel. That is until you look at the lap times and realize that the BMW M5 is much faster, and achieves that speed in a more civilized manner. This is even more evident on the road, where the M5’s ride is daily-commute friendly and the CTS-V beats you up a bit. My overall pick goes to the M5.
—Patrick Hong
Executive Editor
The M5 is the best-handling 7 Series BMW has ever made. Yeah, I know it’s a 5 Series, but it’s just so big, and soft, and comfortable and stomping fast. It’s high-performance luxury at its pinnacle, and for that reason I’ll take the CTS-V. It’s a sports sedan like the previous-generation BMW M5, where driver interaction and enjoyment take precedence over passenger comfort and isolation.
—Shaun Bailey
Associate Engineering Editor
Last edited by Space; 06-24-2012 at 07:23 AM.
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The M5 may have edged out the CTS-V, but the point spread is so miniscule it could be chalked up to driver experience or atmosphere/track conditions. I'll keep the extra $25,000+ in my pocket and go with the CTS-V. Enjoy being back on top while you can BMW. I'm sure it won't be long until you see nothing but the tail lights of the CTS-V again.
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