If you are looking to just fix the Monte to sell it, you may be better off selling it the way it is and being honest about the issues. Ask a fair price for the car in it's condition.

If you are expecting a trans fix to cost $1200, sell the Monte for $2000, you're making $800. I don't know what your Monte is worth, but perhaps ask somewhere between $1000-$1500 or best offer. List what you know about it, expect to get lower offers. Maybe you'll sell it as is for more then that $800. Just be honest and fair. Could save you the trouble of doing the trans switcher-roo.

Just a thought.

 

I would not biy a trans to swap in with that many miles... where are you located, if your close I'll do the swap you you.

 

This trans shop know nothing about the 4t65E apparently. Mine had a code for the pressure control solenoid for a long time. All it does is cause rough shift (like a super shift kind is slamming the gears into place) it was $600 to fix. I think jason and John have natrowed down your problem though.

 

Hey guys! Thanks so much for the help.

I'm in Oregon, for first things.

I was told by a shop today that theyd put one in for me for roughly $500. And I think it has a 2 year warranty on the work.

Another question: How bad is it for my car to drive it when it can only go up to 50mph? Is it damaging the engine to be at those RPM's? Or is that only true if Im really pushing it? Cuz I may need to drive it again soon to get to the shop or to go get a second opinion which I think I clearly need.

No, I didnt feel that shop was very good at all, even though theyre reputed as the best here in Grants Pass, Oregon. They were rude and clearly didnt need my business.

Are my symptoms still in the range of "could be PCS", or would it definitely throw a code if it was a PCS?

 

Also, I would like some opinions on this:

All the dude did was test drive it and determined with a smirk that the clutches were blown. No codes on his computer and they laughed when I suggested the PCS. He said "No code means its not electrical"....and then actually stopped talking as if expecting me to fill in the blanks. After saying the bit about the clutches, they just stood there looking at me and after a long akward silence, I was like..."So.....what are my options here?"

"You need a new transmission", again with a smirk. I looked at the other guy and asked how much that runs and he pulled "Ohh, about $2400" out of the air.

I just totally got a really weird feeling from them.

Id like a second opinion but am concerned about driving the car, even at a max of 50mph as I dont know if its harmful to the engine.

Thanks for helpin me sort this, guys

 

Max of 50mph? So you dont have third or fourth gear? I can do 65 in second im pretty sure. Not that its good do the engine or trans but for a very short time its fine as long as your not red lining.

They could rebuild it for less than that maybe depending on what's bad. Get another opinion from another trans shop.

 

No, not a max of 50, thats just the sweet spot where it doesnt seem to be taxing the engine too hard, is what I mean. Like, I think that might be a safe speed to run it at, RPM wise = but I totally dont know.

I really may have to drive it somewhere and Im VERY curious if Ill be damaging the car if I only drive it up to about 50mph. I CAN get it up to nearly 70 and was trying that the day it went bad to see if I could of course force it to shift, but it simply wasnt happening.

ANOTHER QUESTION: Could a car even move if the PCS was the problem? The shop said the car wouldn't even move and Im not sure about that. Thoughts?

 

Like I said I had my pcs go bad and replaced and my car moved fine for two months before I got it fixed. Might just be a clutch soleniod to though. I assume your in second gear. 65 should be fine as long as you arnt taking a cross country trip. Iv done 60 in first.

 

Torque converter whine is not uncommon in these transmissions.

your issue could be as simple as needing a new Torque Converter, which should be about $150 plus install

or...

4th gear is gone and is not uncommon either in these transmissions.


i do not think that it is electrical either, as in a solenoid going bad, that part is correct, it most likely would have thrown a code if it were electrical. but not always.

in all honesty, you need to shop around and call other places, those guys sound like douche bags and are likely not going to give you the type of service that $2400 deserves.

for $1600 you can get a zzp hd trans, ZZPerformance - 4T65E (HD) Transmission #ZZ-4T65EHDT , plus shipping and core plus install, and you are most likely still going to be cheaper than that shop.

and i would almost bet you, that that shop would buy a used/junk yard transmission for a few hundred bucks, swap it out and then charge you $3200 because "something else was wrong"


if you have ANY mechanical skills, you can install a transmission yourself over a weekend. if you are good with tools, you can do it in a day.
if you are really good with tools, you can do it in a few hours.

 

oh, and to add....



since the trans "might" be on the way out, you can always try a transmission FLUSH, not a pan drop and filter change.

you may have some "gunk" built up in the torque converter that a flush may be able to get rid of. this actually happened to me a long time ago and my trans went into "limp mode". tranny guy said to try a pressure flush to see what it did. it worked, and i put another 100k miles on that trans before it finally went. and it only cost me $75