ORIGINAL: lav74

I understand your point, but you're wanting to add bolt-ons, which requires manual work, when you can do less bolt-ons, a little tuning, and get the same performance, if not better, and more efficient.

I'm not knocking what you're saying, I'm just trying to get a point across that tuning is the most important aspect of modifying your 3800, and buying bolt-ons can only get you so far before you are wasting money on parts that tuning could easily get you with what you already have.

How far away are you from Montreal? I travel there often for my job, and would gladly meet up with you to do some in-car tuning of your Monte. All you need to do is fill my belly with food as payment. :-)

With $2000, this is what I would do if I wanted to maximize output from a stock L67:

Maintenance first:
fuel filter (WIX brand or NAPA gold)

FWI - $100 home made with K&N filter
Autolite 104 plugs - $20
180* t-stat - $15
ZZP 3" DP w/cat - $200 shipped or less
DP/Cat install and resonator removal and 3" to the gas tank - $100 or less, depending on where you go... it's basically unbolt one end, cut the other, and put the new piece in with a 3" end of pipe to fill in the remainder...
Front P-Log - $120
1.84 aluminum roller rockers - $400
ZZP PCM- $100 ?
ZZP Stg 2 ported TB - $350

If you ask me, the St2 2 ported TB is not worth the money for the gains, but you need a bigger TB to get better response, and take advantage of those rockers and Plogs, so spend it there, or on a N* setup, you'll still be spending $$$.

So far, this totals ~$1400. If you want to really add some more kick, add a ported M90 to that list and a 3.25" pulley, and you'll be still under $2000, and in good shape to be in the mid 13 second territory, with a possible chance at lower 13s on slicks or drag radials. I would say you would be somewhere in the 250-275whp range. Thatrange is wide, I know, but tuning is where you get closer to the 275whp. :-) Good bang for the buck if you ask me from 193whp in stock form.

Anywho, let me know how far you would be willing to drive to squeak out more power, and better fuel efficiency out of your car. There are plenty of 3800 members across the country who would be willing to help out a fellow enthusiast... you only need ask, and on different boards too. :-)

ORIGINAL: RocknSS04

Sorry to hear about your leg.
IMO, Keep the resonater. Almost no power gain, and the cabin howl from removing it to me isn't worth the minute power gain.
Everything else sounds good. Definately a 3" downpipe, and plog. The stainless makes things run cooler, along with the ceramic coatings, thus helping reduce spark knock, thus allowing a smaller pulley. The larger TB will add throttle response. I'm leaning towards a cam instead of the rockers. Double or more the HP, and both aren't recommended. Again, it breaths easier, making it run cooler, and again allowing for a smaller pulley. Maybe a little more work, but That's what I'm going for, I think.
Other than the N'star TB , I've opted for the best available (stainless, coated, etc), as the labor to install these parts is the same.
Also, if you do a fenderwell CAI, make sure you build a heat shield and lid, and use a smooth elbow. Does the Wizaired have a smooth elbow?
A tune would be a GOOD thing, also.
Good luck to you on your mods.

ORIGINAL: RickCoMatic

Hey Sub:

Take it easy and get yourself well and than you can do what ever you want. If you read that there is something simple you can do ... you are likely to come-off the couch and get under the hood and try it.

I just had Knee surgery. They told me not to carry anything and take it easy on it for 21 days. I feel guilty watching the groceries get carried inside while I'm siting in a chair feeling like I could help, but the deal is you have to let things heal before you do anything that might set you back and I know you DON'T want that.

I hope your legs heals-up nice and you get back to 100% after your time-out. Take care of yourself. Take care of the car after you get back in shape to answer all bells!