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Old Nov 17, 2008 | 09:03 PM
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No concessions from the UAW.
They want to remain the slowest-working, highest-paid, Workers to call-in sick or show-up for work hung-over, while demanding more and more for being less productive, while their employer's bottom line's shrank from solid figures in black ink; then grew to enormous numbers in the red.
The Party is over.
There will be no metal getting stamped, soon. There will a long line of former car-builders shuffling paperwork to get stamped; just before you check-out and go home on the day the doors get shut for good.
No more Chevy's.
Beep, ... beep, ... beep, ... beeeeeeeeeeeeeeee The Heartbeat of America in full cardiac arrest!
Back when Nova's and Chevelle's were selling like hotcakes you would have never dreamed the situation could get so bad.
And, now the American Dream has become a nightmare from which you want to wake-up screaming to find no dragons burning-down your house and your boat still trailered behind the pickup.
But, there's really heat and smoke. And, not from any barecue.
The place where you work is going down in flames. People are doing everything to bring the fire under control. We need people to fill buckets with water and hand them to the next person in line.
At a time like this you must do everything within your power to survive.
Hand me that bucket, mister!
I don't want to hear that it "Ain't your job description."
It's time for concessions.
 
Old Nov 17, 2008 | 09:25 PM
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American axle just had 3 plants go on strike this year. Management wanted concessions. 3 months later, they settled. For LESS than the original concession request. Wages cut in half. Hundreds of jobs lost. American Axle is, or was, a solid company. Again, the problem was the "U", and it's under worked, overpaid employees and their reps and management (non-productive workers).

"U"s had their place, and still do. but American Axle needs to be used as an example of what NEEDS to be done with the big 3. CUT, CUT, CUT! But the unskilled laborer STILL makes a reasonable wage. $28/hr + $45/hr in benefits? NOT A CHANCE! Less than HALF that. Is $14/hour a fair wage for someone with NO education? IMO it is! Sure, they can load a machine and push the yellow buttons, A trained monkey could do it for bananas! A robot could do it for less than that!

As a Lead Tool & Die Moldmaker, it is my job description to be able to run every machine in the building, if necessary, and to do it in a team like fashion. Work efficiently is a TOP priority. Quality is #1 on our list of priorities. Did I say work EFFICIENTLY? That's not in ANY job description in a shop.

Where did we go wrong? When we stopped looking out for our own, and started giving billions to other countries, and letting OUR people starve. Letting our jobs go overseas. Government welfare is a mess. Government is a mess. No good answers. Just frustrated.
 
Old Nov 19, 2008 | 04:07 PM
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Chapter 11, cancel ALL collective bargaining agreements and if they gripe.............remember PATCO? The uaw should suffer the same fate.
 
Old Nov 19, 2008 | 06:05 PM
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Don't get me wrong here. I am ALL for keeping jobs. But I see chapter 11 as THE ONLY way for the big 3 to get out of this mess. PATCO partially. The precedent has been set. UAW and American Axle. 50% wage cut with a similar cut in benefits. Across the board! NO ONE makes over $80K. Not the CEOs or ANYONE. Bring back the jobs sent abroad for $10/hour with benefits, and see how many line up! Skilled trades for $20/hour. Sorry, but broom and button pusheers SHOULD NOT be making what tool & die makers or electricians make. "U"s say that general labor is just as important as skilled trades, and therefore should make the same money. BUL_S_IT! I didn't take 4 years of training and bottom dollar pay to be at equal pay with someone without training. My wife has a Masters degree. Think she would appreciate the same pay as a moron that can't read or write, but can operate a punch press or injection press? I didn't say set up one. Operate one. There's a difference!

And another thing, if the government gives the big 3 bail-out money, isn't that like welfare? So now you have $30/hour workers that WE are paying wages for! BUL_S_IT! $10-15 unskilled, $20 for skilled trades. DEAL WITH IT OR REMEMBER PATCO?

We need jobs brought back, and the big 3 CAN do it, but not with the UAW as it is now. Re-organize, not bail out.
 
Old Nov 20, 2008 | 04:45 PM
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Screw the UAW!!!!!!!

Plain and simple.

I once had a friend pushing me to join at a Rochester Products plant, so finally I did.
I quit 3 months later due to boredom.
What I had done in the machine trades industry prior to joining a UAW plant, I was no longer allowed to do.
I watched complete incompetent morons attempting to do things I could do with my eyes closed and twice the wage I got outside or there. Call electricians when you jogged a machine one to many times then wait hours for a quick open the electrical box and hit reset. It took over 11 different people to do what I was trained to do outside the UAW plant.

SCREW EM, lazy no good bums.
 
Old Nov 20, 2008 | 06:28 PM
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I watched an "ethnic" employee (from south of the border) at the Kazoo ex-GM plant sit on his but in front of a saw for 8 hours, with the saw running but locked half way thru the cut. He just sat there filing on the same block ALL night! Is this the kind of productivity the UAW condones? I left GM after 9 months. I'm with you. I was a tool and die maker. MACHINISTS run machines. As a toolmaker, all I could run was a drill press! I jumped at an offer for another moldmaker job.
 
Old Nov 21, 2008 | 07:31 AM
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Old Nov 21, 2008 | 08:44 AM
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That's funny...............I managed to get a loan last month...........What's happening is lenders are now doing what they should have been doing all along...........follow their criteria for loaning out money. No income? No loan...........Welfare? No loan............No down payment? No loan. Had they adhered to these principles instead of being told by the government, we wouldn't even be having this discussion...............
 
Old Nov 21, 2008 | 09:12 AM
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A guy walks in to the local auto parts store and says, "I'd like a gas cap for my '08 Mustang." The guy behind the counter says, "OK, sounds like a fair trade!"
 
Old Nov 21, 2008 | 10:13 AM
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With regard to qualifying for financing:
Even the "Fine-print disclaimers" appearing at the end of the Car Commercials have changed.
The language reads, in part: "Only to WELL QUALIFIED Consumers".
You need to show them you can handle the financing BEFORE they offer you a loan on any new car.
 
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