i dont like 'em at all, lol. only thing i like about 'em is that they stand out driving up the road, but i just never really could get into 'em. funny thing is, just yesterday i was looking through more of my dad's magazines, found the september '04 issue of car craft, and leafing through it i came across the road test for the '04 SSR. that example was an auto and had the 5.3, and the writer / tester really REALLY liked the thing.