End of an era?
#12
02-14-2008, 08:09 PM
RE: End of an era?
I saw the show "future cars" on the some channel last night that had an Opel car on there, i cant remember the name of the car, but this thing was in a 24 hour endurance race and it average speed was 140mph with a 112 hp turbo diesel that got 121 mpg. That to me tells me the technology is out there it is just not being used the right way.
#13
02-14-2008, 09:43 PM
RE: End of an era?
unless i'm wrong i can bust this story right now with cowboy... and the corvette is a poor example ofa gas guzzler anyway...
doesnt even have to be ethanol.... just slap on a few stainless steel fuel system parts and call it a flex fuel.... gm might be all over this already, but whys that matter.... 35mpg is along way away right?
http://www.nhtsa.dot.gov/cars/rules/cafe/overview.htm
The CAFE law provides for special treatment of vehicle fuel economy calculations for dedicated alternative fuel vehicles and dual-fuel vehicles. The fuel economy of a dedicated alternative fuel vehicle is determined by dividing its fuel economy in equivalent miles per gallon of gasoline or diesel fuel by 0.15. Thus a 15 mpg dedicated alternative fuel vehicle would be rated as 100 mpg. For dual-fuel vehicles (vehicles that can use the alternative fuel and gasoline or diesel interchangeably), the rating is the average of the fuel economy on gasoline or diesel and the fuel economy on the alternative fuel vehicle divided by .15. For example, this calculation procedure turns a dual fuel vehicle that averages 25 mpg on gasoline or diesel with the above 100 mpg alternative fuel to attain the 40 mpg value for CAFE purposes.
lotsa mumbo jumbo right... but if my thinking is correct heres how itd work on a 08 chevy impala 3.5 flex fuel. on gas the epa combined rating is 22mpg, on e85 its 16mpg. so you take 16/.15 = 107 then 107+22 = 129 then 129/2 = 64.5 so aparently the 08 flex fuel impala could be credited with 64.5 mpg under cafe rules
no wonder gm is makin so many flex fuels
ORIGINAL: Cowboy6622
Well the getting 350-400 hp has alwys been expensive to me.... atleat, to buy it new. I think they will return, just like they did now. I think the next wave of muscle cars will probably be ethanol powered.
Well the getting 350-400 hp has alwys been expensive to me.... atleat, to buy it new. I think they will return, just like they did now. I think the next wave of muscle cars will probably be ethanol powered.
http://www.nhtsa.dot.gov/cars/rules/cafe/overview.htm
The CAFE law provides for special treatment of vehicle fuel economy calculations for dedicated alternative fuel vehicles and dual-fuel vehicles. The fuel economy of a dedicated alternative fuel vehicle is determined by dividing its fuel economy in equivalent miles per gallon of gasoline or diesel fuel by 0.15. Thus a 15 mpg dedicated alternative fuel vehicle would be rated as 100 mpg. For dual-fuel vehicles (vehicles that can use the alternative fuel and gasoline or diesel interchangeably), the rating is the average of the fuel economy on gasoline or diesel and the fuel economy on the alternative fuel vehicle divided by .15. For example, this calculation procedure turns a dual fuel vehicle that averages 25 mpg on gasoline or diesel with the above 100 mpg alternative fuel to attain the 40 mpg value for CAFE purposes.
lotsa mumbo jumbo right... but if my thinking is correct heres how itd work on a 08 chevy impala 3.5 flex fuel. on gas the epa combined rating is 22mpg, on e85 its 16mpg. so you take 16/.15 = 107 then 107+22 = 129 then 129/2 = 64.5 so aparently the 08 flex fuel impala could be credited with 64.5 mpg under cafe rules
no wonder gm is makin so many flex fuels
#14
02-14-2008, 09:52 PM
RE: End of an era?
ORIGINAL: rj
It was only an example.
It was only an example.
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