6th Gen ('00-'05): Issues are stacking up, fuel injector failure?
#11
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: Mentor, Ohio
Posts: 12,175
Yeah, good advice. Plug wires are cheap too, so wouldn't hurt to change them. Saw a thing on your tube with a guy pulling the plug wire and immediately finding something to ground it to, to see the strength of spark. He only missed once...lol. Good advice on the starting spray. Found many a vacuum leak that way. Again, being wet to me is a sure sign it is not firing, or the injector is overwhelming the plug and wetting it. Those are the two places to start.
I know I suggested double checking the gap, but another thought I don't think I saw, swap the plug with another cylinder. Could be a bad plug. Another quick/easy test.
#12
Alright, starting fluid test didn't get me anything, I had to log the misfires on my phone, hold the throttle cracked open, and spray the fluid. I opened up the connector by the alternator and tried probing the wires with no success, I need to find a wiring diagram so I know which pins to hit, but even then I'm not sure that my multimeter leads are able to hit the metal in the sockets. Seems like it'll be time for disassembly soon.
#13
Alright, starting fluid test didn't get me anything, I had to log the misfires on my phone, hold the throttle cracked open, and spray the fluid. I opened up the connector by the alternator and tried probing the wires with no success, I need to find a wiring diagram so I know which pins to hit, but even then I'm not sure that my multimeter leads are able to hit the metal in the sockets. Seems like it'll be time for disassembly soon.
#14
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: Mentor, Ohio
Posts: 12,175
Alright, starting fluid test didn't get me anything, I had to log the misfires on my phone, hold the throttle cracked open, and spray the fluid. I opened up the connector by the alternator and tried probing the wires with no success, I need to find a wiring diagram so I know which pins to hit, but even then I'm not sure that my multimeter leads are able to hit the metal in the sockets. Seems like it'll be time for disassembly soon.
#15
I assume you were spraying the starting fluid under the upper intake (so if there is a poorly sealed injector that fluid would get sucked in to it)? As for the leads on the multimeter, get some paper clips, they are perfect to put into the connectors and extend the connection (heck, helped me figure out an O2 sensor issue that was related to a failed female pin not making contact anymore). But you will need the wiring diagrams to handle it. I think one pin is ground for all the injectors.
Fantastic idea, that should help a lot. I was spraying under the upper, kinda straight down onto the injector, almost like I was trying to flood the lower intake. Any idea where I might find the wiring diagram? Maybe a dealership?
Greyghost, when I did the head gaskets I changed every single seal and gasket from the heads up, and got some metal lower intake gaskets even.
#16
Fantastic idea, that should help a lot. I was spraying under the upper, kinda straight down onto the injector, almost like I was trying to flood the lower intake. Any idea where I might find the wiring diagram? Maybe a dealership?
Greyghost, when I did the head gaskets I changed every single seal and gasket from the heads up, and got some metal lower intake gaskets even.
Greyghost, when I did the head gaskets I changed every single seal and gasket from the heads up, and got some metal lower intake gaskets even.
#18
I never got a chance to get a wiring diagram, but I had planned to pull the UIM today anyway to clean the #3 injector, it ohms at 11.9 while 3 others are between 12.2-12.5 so that concerns me, there's a brownish discoloration on all the injectors but it's a bit worse on the number 3. I'm gonna clean it out and swap it to the #4 position as I reinstall.
#19
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: Mentor, Ohio
Posts: 12,175
I would almost be inclined to outright replace that injector. All things being equal, that seems to be a very weird coincidence that it ohms significantly less than the others. Also, make sure to lube the o-rings when you re-install. GM recommends a drop of motor oil. Since you are swapping the injector position, I hope the problem migrates to cylinder #4 and if it does, you have the culprit.
#20
I meant to update sooner, lost track of time. I ended up just outright replacing the #3 injector and the car ran better, but not quite like it should, then over the course of two days its running worse than it was before the injector swap... I'm so lost here.