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Old 10-02-2009, 11:14 PM
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greeting everyone, i have a 03 monte with a 3400. 150k. runs fine. yesterday i noticed that my temp gauge is rising at idle. normally it runs 1 bar under the half way mark. after investigating, i realized that the cooling fans were not coming on. i did a series of tests. all three relays work . the temp gauge works as normal so im guess it it operating as normal. the fans dont come on when the ac is on either. i am getting power to the fans . jumped the fans with 12+ and neg they both blow strong. i do not seem to be getting ground to the fans, maybe the pcm? i grounded the fan to the engine and the fan for the ac worked as normal with the external ground but when i removed the ground the fan stopped. so , do i assume the pcm is not supplying a ground to the fans? or is my temp sensor malfunctioning? please help if you have expeirenced this problem thanks terry
 
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Old 10-04-2009, 12:40 AM
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Both fans not working? I wouldn't suspect the PCM. I think that the first job would be to check the temp sensor as you mentioned.

Seems to me that you have done a good job beginning to narrow down the problem.

I'm not positive, but I don't think that the PCM has a circuit that controls off/on of the booster fan or either of them for that matter. I can't see it in the HVAC schematics.

Coolant temp sensor says "hey, it's getting hot! Kick in the booster!"

PCM does control the a/c relay clutch but that booster fan will kick in even if the a/c isn't activated depending on the circumstances.

Hopefully, it's the TS and not a faulty ground.
 
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Old 10-05-2009, 01:30 AM
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where u live,is it warm? the temp is to be expected to rise while idling. the fans wont kick on till the temp gauge reaches above more than half way.
 
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Old 10-05-2009, 03:17 PM
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Along with the temp sensor, you might want to check the t'stat.

Think I was looking at the wrong schematic. Those fan circuits do go through the BCM and PCM.
 
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Old 07-24-2010, 10:58 PM
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Did you ever figure out the problem with your fans? I am have a similar problem with my 2003 3.4L MC. I was able to get Fan#2 going (fan on driver's side) by chasing down a bad ground. The ground for the fans are in the wiring harness between the two headlights, they exit the harness and attach to a screw right next to the drivers side head light. So, the ground was fixed and now Fan#2 turns on when the A/C is on and will kick on if the a/c is off and the engine temp gets too high. My problem is Fan#1 does not turn on at all. I have replaced the ECT sensor, checked all fuses, replaced all three relays, and used a wire to jump Fan#1 at the relay to ensure it worked (it did). Can anyone help??
 
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Old 08-09-2010, 03:41 AM
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I have a 2006 LT and had the same problem but my relays were installed wrong by a shop before I owned it the relays in the 06 Monte plug in upside down the relays are a 3114 except a larger in the middle. New to Monte Carlos but not GM
 
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Old 08-09-2010, 09:43 AM
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mine never turned on until my tune tuned them in at 180? i believe i have the same car as you, just 04
 
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