04 Coolant Issues
#21
05-28-2005, 07:03 AM
RE: 04 Coolant Issues
ORIGINAL: mickey
that depends if it is amatter of flushing a system and changing the fluids then no it would be well worth not having the leacks and the related issues with this crap.
they have already found out that it is eatting the hoses from the inside out on some cars this alone is not a good thing I can tell ya right now those heater hoses dont look fun to have to figure out how to replace on the side of a road
that depends if it is amatter of flushing a system and changing the fluids then no it would be well worth not having the leacks and the related issues with this crap.
they have already found out that it is eatting the hoses from the inside out on some cars this alone is not a good thing I can tell ya right now those heater hoses dont look fun to have to figure out how to replace on the side of a road
#23
05-28-2005, 10:31 AM
RE: 04 Coolant Issues
I've heard of many switching over to the green stuff with no problems. I am thinking of switching over in a month or so when I get my system flushed. If your car is fairly new I would not worry about changing hoses after the switch over unless and inspection of a hose in the system shows signs of degradation.
TVW
TVW
#24
05-28-2005, 12:33 PM
RE: 04 Coolant Issues
ORIGINAL: tvanwinklehome
I've heard of many switching over to the green stuff with no problems. I am thinking of switching over in a month or so when I get my system flushed. If your car is fairly new I would not worry about changing hoses after the switch over unless and inspection of a hose in the system shows signs of degradation.
TVW
I've heard of many switching over to the green stuff with no problems. I am thinking of switching over in a month or so when I get my system flushed. If your car is fairly new I would not worry about changing hoses after the switch over unless and inspection of a hose in the system shows signs of degradation.
TVW
#25
05-28-2005, 01:09 PM
RE: 04 Coolant Issues
what was the issue with the coolant at hand here? i think that i missed the main thread here and i am completely lost. sorry!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
#26
05-28-2005, 02:08 PM
RE: 04 Coolant Issues
on my monte im running a newer serp belt system with the original vortec waterpump. the engine came out of a truck that ran dex and i put the vortec engine into an ice racer car i had, monte carloe of corse, and i didnt have any problems with running low tox in it. low tox is environmentaly friendly green. that engine is now in my 86 monte but anyways ive experianced now coolant problems with it. when i attended wyoming technical institute in laramie wyoming this was a subject that was pondered upon and the instructors explained to us that if you flushed the system properly you will have no problems with switching to green. at work ive ran into a few cases where people topped off their system and mixed green with the orange. we will usually flush the system any reinstall the orange. you can actually let this mix go but you will not have the "100000 mile" life of the dexcool. i do not foresee any problems with the change to green if you have the radiato, heater core, and block flushed thoroughly.
#27
05-28-2005, 02:13 PM
RE: 04 Coolant Issues
oh ok i was just asking to see what the hell was going on in here thanks for filling me in on it.
#29
05-29-2005, 01:38 AM
RE: 04 Coolant Issues
wow. pretty interesting stuff here. I think I'll stick w/the orange/red stuff.
What made your mind up on this one?
Well, some of these links might change your mind...
Link 1
Link 2
A word about DexCool Antifreeze
There is a class action suit pending against GM claiming that cooling systems were corroded and sludged up due to the extended life antifreeze Dexcool. Below is text from the lawsuit:
Dexcool was initially marketed as a long life universal automotive engine coolant that would last for 5 years or 100,000 miles of service. It is now marketed to last for 5 years or 150,000 miles of service. Manufacturers of traditional antifreeze / coolants generally market that their antifreeze / coolants will provide dependable thermal control and corrosion and rust protection for twenty-four (24) months or 30,000 miles. The major difference in Dexcool over traditional coolants is in the corrosion inhibitor protection. Traditional antifreeze / coolants contain inorganic salts of borate, phosphate, silicate and other chemicals to prevent rust and corrosion, whereas, Dexcool’s® corrosion inhibitor components, are based on organic acid technology (OAT). Dexcool is orange and traditional antifreeze is green.
I've done some research on the subject and found that the biggest problem seems to be contamination of Dexcool with regular antifreeze and running your cooling system low on coolant. Many systems get contaminated when owners get their oil changed at a quick lube which tops off all the fluids.
There is a class action suit pending against GM claiming that cooling systems were corroded and sludged up due to the extended life antifreeze Dexcool. Below is text from the lawsuit:
Dexcool was initially marketed as a long life universal automotive engine coolant that would last for 5 years or 100,000 miles of service. It is now marketed to last for 5 years or 150,000 miles of service. Manufacturers of traditional antifreeze / coolants generally market that their antifreeze / coolants will provide dependable thermal control and corrosion and rust protection for twenty-four (24) months or 30,000 miles. The major difference in Dexcool over traditional coolants is in the corrosion inhibitor protection. Traditional antifreeze / coolants contain inorganic salts of borate, phosphate, silicate and other chemicals to prevent rust and corrosion, whereas, Dexcool’s® corrosion inhibitor components, are based on organic acid technology (OAT). Dexcool is orange and traditional antifreeze is green.
I've done some research on the subject and found that the biggest problem seems to be contamination of Dexcool with regular antifreeze and running your cooling system low on coolant. Many systems get contaminated when owners get their oil changed at a quick lube which tops off all the fluids.
#30
05-29-2005, 02:02 AM
RE: 04 Coolant Issues
ORIGINAL: tvanwinklehome
What made your mind up on this one?
Well, some of these links might change your mind...
Link 1
Link 2
wow. pretty interesting stuff here. I think I'll stick w/the orange/red stuff.
What made your mind up on this one?
Well, some of these links might change your mind...
Link 1
Link 2
A word about DexCool Antifreeze
There is a class action suit pending against GM claiming that cooling systems were corroded and sludged up due to the extended life antifreeze Dexcool. Below is text from the lawsuit:
Dexcool was initially marketed as a long life universal automotive engine coolant that would last for 5 years or 100,000 miles of service. It is now marketed to last for 5 years or 150,000 miles of service. Manufacturers of traditional antifreeze / coolants generally market that their antifreeze / coolants will provide dependable thermal control and corrosion and rust protection for twenty-four (24) months or 30,000 miles. The major difference in Dexcool over traditional coolants is in the corrosion inhibitor protection. Traditional antifreeze / coolants contain inorganic salts of borate, phosphate, silicate and other chemicals to prevent rust and corrosion, whereas, Dexcool’s® corrosion inhibitor components, are based on organic acid technology (OAT). Dexcool is orange and traditional antifreeze is green.
I've done some research on the subject and found that the biggest problem seems to be contamination of Dexcool with regular antifreeze and running your cooling system low on coolant. Many systems get contaminated when owners get their oil changed at a quick lube which tops off all the fluids.
There is a class action suit pending against GM claiming that cooling systems were corroded and sludged up due to the extended life antifreeze Dexcool. Below is text from the lawsuit:
Dexcool was initially marketed as a long life universal automotive engine coolant that would last for 5 years or 100,000 miles of service. It is now marketed to last for 5 years or 150,000 miles of service. Manufacturers of traditional antifreeze / coolants generally market that their antifreeze / coolants will provide dependable thermal control and corrosion and rust protection for twenty-four (24) months or 30,000 miles. The major difference in Dexcool over traditional coolants is in the corrosion inhibitor protection. Traditional antifreeze / coolants contain inorganic salts of borate, phosphate, silicate and other chemicals to prevent rust and corrosion, whereas, Dexcool’s® corrosion inhibitor components, are based on organic acid technology (OAT). Dexcool is orange and traditional antifreeze is green.
I've done some research on the subject and found that the biggest problem seems to be contamination of Dexcool with regular antifreeze and running your cooling system low on coolant. Many systems get contaminated when owners get their oil changed at a quick lube which tops off all the fluids.
I will check those links you provided in search of compelling reasons to change to regular anti-freeze