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Six Speed Standard Transmission "Stick"
10
47.62%
Six speed Automatic
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23.81%
I can't drive Stick
1
4.76%
I'm a pro at Stick Standard trans
5
23.81%
Six speed auto with paddle shifters
5
23.81%
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Which would you rather Have ?

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Old 02-07-2012 | 10:12 AM
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Originally Posted by ChibiBlackSheep
I enjoy having both, and I see the pros and cons in both.

With that said, I think I would prefer to drive a manual, but again, I still love my automatic Monte

Yes Mod`Mike, you rich guys have the best of both worlds I'm working on getting there, but it's such a long & hard working `journey 4-Sure
 
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Old 02-07-2012 | 10:20 AM
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Rich Guys?!!?

Space, I would think you could save for 2 years and scrounge up enough money to buy a $3000 beater too :p

You figure that's only putting away $125 a month.
 
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Old 02-07-2012 | 10:28 AM
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I like to drive a stick and wouldn't mind one if I had another car. My wife can't drive a stick. Once when I was out of town working her car broke and she had to drove my truck. It was for about a week. When I got home I had to put a new clutch in.
 
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Old 02-07-2012 | 10:32 AM
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Originally Posted by ChibiBlackSheep
Rich Guys?!!?

Space, I would think you could save for 2 years and scrounge up enough money to buy a $3000 beater too :p

You figure that's only putting away $125 a month.

Yes `Mike,
I could, but I would never have the time to drive it or work on it with my work schedule & present obligations...My day shall return soon...
p.s. I know that you have worked hard for your rides, and that you really enjoy both of them 4-Sure..
.I shall keep working & dreaming until my dreams come true.. I will get a garage with a home, b-4 I get another super ride 4-Sure...I can't rest with a nice ride sitting outside in the elements + I'm working on getting the necessary tools to work on my ride(s)... Thanks for your time & suggestions.
 
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Old 02-07-2012 | 10:35 AM
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Originally Posted by lougreen03
I like to drive a stick and wouldn't mind one if I had another car. My wife can't drive a stick. Once when I was out of town working her car broke and she had to drove my truck. It was for about a week. When I got home I had to put a new clutch in.

LOL `Lou, sorry I had to laugh at your post....I hope the job was not to difficult...Can she now drive stick ? Good thing you did not have to replace any gears...
Thanks again for all your posts & contributions...
 
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Old 02-07-2012 | 10:57 AM
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Jenna wants to learn. We just haven't had the time to take her to a parking lot to begin.

Also now that I have this short-throw, I wonder if it will be easier or harder to learn?
 
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Old 02-07-2012 | 11:05 AM
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I don't like driving stick - I've tried on a 69 Camaro, an 05 Saleen and an 06 Mini Cooper - can't reach the clutch pedal that easy. I voted for auto stick.
 
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Old 02-08-2012 | 08:39 AM
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Manual Versus Automatic Transmission

What is better? Manual or automatic? How do they work? Which one to choose? Why? This site is dedicated to unbiased information / pros and cons about these two types of transmissions. Don't forget to add your own thoughts at the end of the page.
If you are too lazy or don't have time to read all that's on this site here's the one sentence executive summary: manual transmission (MT)cars use less fuel and give you more control over the car but are less convenient, while automatic transmissions (AT) burn (a little) more gas, provide less control but they are easier to use.

Costs

Manual transmissions cost less than automatics to begin with. When you go to a car dealear you will notice that the stick-shift version of the same model is about a thousand bucks cheaper. Sometimes a thousand dollars seems like not not so much when it comes to buying a new car but forget about the car itself, think of what you can do with an extra $1000.
In the long run, manuals require less service, thus making maintenance cheaper too.

Maintenance

Any mechanic can tell you that working on a manual transmission is much easier than working with automatic gear boxes. So the repair costs for automatics are significantly higher.
Manuals - if properly operated - will go hundreds of thousands of kilometers without problems (well, you also need a good car). The lubricant needs to be replaced periodically but not as frequently as in automatics. (Some cars use special transmission fluids that do not need to be replaced at all.)

Operation (driving)

Standards are harder to drive. Say the North Americans. Huh. Ask a European taxi driver who talks to the dispatcher and zig-zags on narrow winding streets with three passangers chatting in the background. He will swear to the life of his mother that stick shifs are better.
6-speed manual gear shift


With ATs, at stop lights you have to keep your foot on the brake pedal otherwise the start keeps rolling forward. Just how uncomfortable is that? This was so strange to me the first time I drove an automatic that I slowly rear ended the car in front at the lights (In case you are wondering I spend 6 years driving standards and 7 years driving automatics.)
The main difference in operating a car with a stick shift vs. one with automatic trasmission is that you need to shift gears based on the vehicle's speed and this requires the use of the clutch pedal and the gear shift (stick). When the clutch pedal is depressed the clutch is disengaged - the engine and the transmission is separated. Gears can be selected at this time or the car can be stopped without stalling.
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It's not depressing the clutch pedal that takes practice - releasing it requires practice to ensure a smooth start and gradual transition between gears once the vehicle is in motion. If the clutch pedal is not properly used the car will "jump-start" (much like an angry donkey) and often stall. Learning to control the clutch pedal is the single most frightening part of driving standards and many people become discouraged after a few unsuccessful trials. But once you learn how to use properly use your left foot to control the cluch-pedal the "muscle memory" becomes permanent and you won't forget it again - much like riding a bicycle.
Automatics also have a clutch except instead of a clutch pedal a torque converter is used to seperate the engine from the transmission - and it all happens automatically without the need of driver input. Speaking of driver input: manual enthusiasts need all their pride and discipline in traffic jams when they need to shift gears every minute for hours. (hint: if you commute in bad traffic, buy an automatic and forget about control- it's just not worth the stress driving a stick shift through traffic jams)

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Old 02-08-2012 | 09:53 AM
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Mike its actually easier to learn with a short throw shifter than stock
 
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Old 02-08-2012 | 09:57 AM
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Good to know!

I just have to tell her not to be delicate with the shifter. I figure she'll be nervous and won't want to slam the gears, but it's quite a necessity on this one haha
 


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