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Old 03-08-2012, 07:44 PM
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if the ford is an auto and purely stock then the MC SS has the upper hand, if its stick and *a good driver* the monte will prolly lose if he doesn't spin his wheels.
 
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I'll play along here... Will the Monte win? I believe it will why? Okay here's why...

Monte:
240hp
280lb-ft tq
3,522lbs
0-60: 6.7s
Mustang:
225hp
300lb-tq
3,193lbs
0-60: 6.4s

Does the Mustang have the upper hand? Yes, HOWEVER what you guys fail to notice is that the Mustang had 1 huge flaw. Traction, the Mustang was always the car that made the worst traction among the muscle cars. That's where the Monte has it's advantage, the Monte is FWD so considering that it has all the weight being distributed to the front wheels making traction much easier where as the Mustang is RWD and has no weight in the rear end and has so much torque that on take off it will just spin the tires no matter how hard you try not to. It's a drivers race for sure but in the end, the Monte will win.
That being said.... here's a better question for you guys:
2004 Monte Carlo SS SuperCharged
VS
1999 Pontiac Grand Prix GTP COUPE
I'll let that simmer
 
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Eh, ... all things being semi-equal, ... The GTP.
 
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Old 03-09-2012, 05:46 AM
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My numbers have the Monte weighing only 3340 lbs (from here) I never checked the manual. I believe the Monte is lighter then the GTP as well, so sorry, MonteCarlo FTW (everything else is equal)
 
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Old 03-09-2012, 07:35 AM
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jwjones, you're Monte specs are spot on according to my sources, but your Mustang specs are from an 87 GT (although your weight was about right) and not from an 86 GT like the OP was requesting.

1986 Mustang GT:
200hp
285 ft lbs

In the end, both cars run high 14's so it's a driver's race.

Between the Monte and the GTP, they're almost the exact same car. Both are Gen 2 W-body's with the only differences being mostly cosmetic. In that race, it's more important to be the better driver.
 
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Old 03-09-2012, 07:52 AM
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In the end one is a 25 year old car, and the other is MUCH newer.

Unless this Mustang has kept EVERYTHING clean, he is no where near his specs.
 
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From all the sites I checked this is what I found:

Exterior Dimensions 2004 Chevrolet Monte Carlo
Wheelbase (in / mm) 110.5 / 2807
Overall length (in / mm) 197.9 / 5026
Overall width (in / mm) 72.7 / 1846
Overall height (in / mm) 55.2 / 1403
Track (in / mm) Front 62.1 / 1576
Rear 61.2 / 1554
EPA curb weight
(lb / kg) LS 3340 / 1515
SS 3434 / 1558
Supercharged SS 3522lbs / 1598kg


1999 Pontiac Grand Prix GTP Coupe-

Weights: curb weight (kg) 1,540 - 3388lbs
External dimensions: overall length (mm): 4,991, overall width (mm): 1,847, overall height (mm): 1,389, wheelbase (mm): 2,807, front track (mm): 1,567, rear track (mm): 1,552 and curb to curb turning circle (mm): 11,247
 
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Old 03-09-2012, 09:16 AM
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Well, like the song says...

"Shut up and drive!"

If the OP ever comes back to post his results, we'd all like to know what happened.
 
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Old 03-09-2012, 10:40 AM
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I agree with that. I think the Monte will win by the way




Originally Posted by Taz
Well, like the song says...

"Shut up and drive!"

If the OP ever comes back to post his results, we'd all like to know what happened.
 


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