Opinions Wanted
#11
10-07-2010, 03:21 PM
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: London, Ontario
Posts: 5,611
Cars come to me to die. I've never sold a car for more then a few hundred, usually to the scrap yard. This Monte is a lifer and as far as I'm concerned it has no resale value.
#12
10-07-2010, 05:39 PM
Mods are a niche market. In general, I think most people don't want to be buy someone else's modded car. Too much concern over things like:
- How reputable was the work
- How does the mod change the reliablity of the car
- How much trouble might the mod cause with having a mechanic service the car (such as might it change the results of the tests in the shop book)
- Raises concern if the potential buyer is purchasing someone else's failed project
- Plus for mods you can't simply see (such as rockers or a cam), proving to the potential buyer the car really does have these things in it.
You may also find a buyer who likes the car as it is with your mods, is impressed by how it performs with the mods. But in most cases, those people don't want to pay extra for the car (regardless of the cost of the mods). They will look at it based on it's blue book.
Me personally, despite that I am modding my car, I would have too many reservations buying someone else's modded car. Just adds too many variables.
Someone I work with said he used to work at a car lot and no matter how cool a car was, if it was modded in anyway, it was tough to sell (either people did not want to pay a reasonable price for it or people were too concerned about items I noted above).
I truly think, if possible, it's best to demod the car and sell the mods off seperatly. You can find people into the mod while hopefully getting a fair price on the car.
Sorry for the long message, but you wanted opinions...
- How reputable was the work
- How does the mod change the reliablity of the car
- How much trouble might the mod cause with having a mechanic service the car (such as might it change the results of the tests in the shop book)
- Raises concern if the potential buyer is purchasing someone else's failed project
- Plus for mods you can't simply see (such as rockers or a cam), proving to the potential buyer the car really does have these things in it.
You may also find a buyer who likes the car as it is with your mods, is impressed by how it performs with the mods. But in most cases, those people don't want to pay extra for the car (regardless of the cost of the mods). They will look at it based on it's blue book.
Me personally, despite that I am modding my car, I would have too many reservations buying someone else's modded car. Just adds too many variables.
Someone I work with said he used to work at a car lot and no matter how cool a car was, if it was modded in anyway, it was tough to sell (either people did not want to pay a reasonable price for it or people were too concerned about items I noted above).
I truly think, if possible, it's best to demod the car and sell the mods off seperatly. You can find people into the mod while hopefully getting a fair price on the car.
Sorry for the long message, but you wanted opinions...
I completely agree with you on that. Part of the idea behind modding the car is for MY fun (and worrying about what it does to the value is not fun).
I pretty much drive a car until it's ready for the junkyard (so I have no reason to consider resale value any ways).
I think Nocturnx is asking since he's putting his ride up for sale.
I pretty much drive a car until it's ready for the junkyard (so I have no reason to consider resale value any ways).
I think Nocturnx is asking since he's putting his ride up for sale.
The Maniac was dead on with his post.
in other words, demod :P
#13
10-08-2010, 11:52 AM
That's the reason I've owned the same car for 38 years now. (plus it's my very FIRST car)
Generally when they leave, there isn't much left of them. I tend to pull off every and any thing I think I can re-use.
#14
10-08-2010, 03:05 PM
Thanks for the opinions. I think my car is past the point of no return as far as demodding goes. Just don't have the time and it would cost me more money. I love the idea of taking it to some car shows, a lot more enthusiasts there that would likely have a better appreciation for the mods.
#15
10-08-2010, 07:58 PM
Mods are a niche market. In general, I think most people don't want to be buy someone else's modded car. Too much concern over things like:
- How reputable was the work
- How does the mod change the reliablity of the car
- How much trouble might the mod cause with having a mechanic service the car (such as might it change the results of the tests in the shop book)
- Raises concern if the potential buyer is purchasing someone else's failed project
- Plus for mods you can't simply see (such as rockers or a cam), proving to the potential buyer the car really does have these things in it.
You may also find a buyer who likes the car as it is with your mods, is impressed by how it performs with the mods. But in most cases, those people don't want to pay extra for the car (regardless of the cost of the mods). They will look at it based on it's blue book.
Me personally, despite that I am modding my car, I would have too many reservations buying someone else's modded car. Just adds too many variables.
Someone I work with said he used to work at a car lot and no matter how cool a car was, if it was modded in anyway, it was tough to sell (either people did not want to pay a reasonable price for it or people were too concerned about items I noted above).
I truly think, if possible, it's best to demod the car and sell the mods off seperatly. You can find people into the mod while hopefully getting a fair price on the car.
Sorry for the long message, but you wanted opinions...
- How reputable was the work
- How does the mod change the reliablity of the car
- How much trouble might the mod cause with having a mechanic service the car (such as might it change the results of the tests in the shop book)
- Raises concern if the potential buyer is purchasing someone else's failed project
- Plus for mods you can't simply see (such as rockers or a cam), proving to the potential buyer the car really does have these things in it.
You may also find a buyer who likes the car as it is with your mods, is impressed by how it performs with the mods. But in most cases, those people don't want to pay extra for the car (regardless of the cost of the mods). They will look at it based on it's blue book.
Me personally, despite that I am modding my car, I would have too many reservations buying someone else's modded car. Just adds too many variables.
Someone I work with said he used to work at a car lot and no matter how cool a car was, if it was modded in anyway, it was tough to sell (either people did not want to pay a reasonable price for it or people were too concerned about items I noted above).
I truly think, if possible, it's best to demod the car and sell the mods off seperatly. You can find people into the mod while hopefully getting a fair price on the car.
Sorry for the long message, but you wanted opinions...
I think it depends on the mods. If they're cosmetic or easily reversible, they tend to not affect the sale too badly. In my case, when I traded my 99 Grand Am, I had custom black & red leatherette seat covers made by CoverKing. The Chevy dealership actually used it in their advertising for the car. And they helped that car to get sold.
But engine and body mods really hurt when trying to sell. Unless you sell it to someone who knows you or the car. Like selling it to another forum member for example.
Most people avoid cars that were modded. Especially if it was not modded professionally. Because buyers simply don't trust other people's work. They're worried about passing emissions tests, inspections, etc. Plus the reasons already mentioned in the quote above.
Thanks for the opinions. I think my car is past the point of no return as far as demodding goes. Just don't have the time and it would cost me more money. I love the idea of taking it to some car shows, a lot more enthusiasts there that would likely have a better appreciation for the mods.
In general, I think people have better luck selling if they de-mod as much as possible. You can usually get better money for the individual mods when they're not installed in a car.
#16
10-13-2010, 12:19 PM
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#18
10-14-2010, 09:34 AM
I think mods help private party sales but hurt trade in value because dealers have trouble selling them. Theres dozens of bonnevilles in town but It took the dealer 6 or 7 months to sell my old bonneville which was in mint condition and the only mod was dynomax exhaust.
I know i wont have trouble selling my car private party when the time comes because i know several huge jr fans and a few are interested it especially with the mods
Im not selling any time soon but i know i wont have my monte forever, i miss having a 4 door and will probably buy a new caprice ss in the next 4 or 5 years
I know i wont have trouble selling my car private party when the time comes because i know several huge jr fans and a few are interested it especially with the mods
Im not selling any time soon but i know i wont have my monte forever, i miss having a 4 door and will probably buy a new caprice ss in the next 4 or 5 years
#19
10-14-2010, 09:59 AM
Going along with what you just said...
A good example is the Junior edition Montes. Some car lots have difficulty selling them. The Chevy dealership I bought mine from, had two they ordered new in 2004. They sold me one of them in 2007 (I am the first owner of the car). The other one continued to sit on the lot for another 6 months, then they sent it to auction.
The point being, most people were turned off by what they saw as modifications. The stripes, the 8's, etc...
A good example is the Junior edition Montes. Some car lots have difficulty selling them. The Chevy dealership I bought mine from, had two they ordered new in 2004. They sold me one of them in 2007 (I am the first owner of the car). The other one continued to sit on the lot for another 6 months, then they sent it to auction.
The point being, most people were turned off by what they saw as modifications. The stripes, the 8's, etc...
#20
10-16-2010, 12:07 AM
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: Mentor, Ohio
Posts: 12,236
Going along with what you just said...
A good example is the Junior edition Montes. Some car lots have difficulty selling them. The Chevy dealership I bought mine from, had two they ordered new in 2004. They sold me one of them in 2007 (I am the first owner of the car). The other one continued to sit on the lot for another 6 months, then they sent it to auction.
The point being, most people were turned off by what they saw as modifications. The stripes, the 8's, etc...
A good example is the Junior edition Montes. Some car lots have difficulty selling them. The Chevy dealership I bought mine from, had two they ordered new in 2004. They sold me one of them in 2007 (I am the first owner of the car). The other one continued to sit on the lot for another 6 months, then they sent it to auction.
The point being, most people were turned off by what they saw as modifications. The stripes, the 8's, etc...
I personally that the Nascar driver editions of the Monte may appeal to only target audiences....
Where as the Pace Car and SS versions are still generic enough that it would not turn away a buyer (unless they simply don't like the decals).
I would be an example of that. I LOVE the blue and silver Monte look (I fell in love with the blue/silver '03 Pace Car, but was not willing to spend the money people wanted for the Pace Car). In tune with that, the Jeff Gordan Monte Carlo is basically the same exact blue/silver Monte, with Gordan's sig on the trunk, special 24 badging and flame decals on the front. Really cool car, looks great, but I don't follow Nascar, as a result, I don't have a "favorite" driver. I would shy away from the Jeff Gordan Monte soley because I don't want people going "So, you like Jeff Gordan?" (or other similar scenarios). Not saying I wouldn't buy it, but I really wouldn't want the Jeff Gordan badging (which to de-badge it of those ruins what that Monte is, and I personally would have some trouble doing that).