Monte Carlo involved in London tragedy
Joined: Apr 2010
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From: Mentor, Ohio
First off, I cannot imagine the stress and grief for that poor family. Where they were expecting to have three children, now that have one child. One child that always had an older sibling is now an only child. Crap like this sometimes makes you wonder, just why? Why did anyone have to be there at that time? Why did someone have to drive through the store front?
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I have yet to read in these updates any response from questioning the driver to why this happened. And mechanical error? Vehicle malfunction? The Monte does not drive itself and that's crazy random for a malfunction/error to clear the red pylons seen in some of the earlier pics.
This may sound crazy, but unless I missed something, how about interrogating the driver of the car.
We've all read stories like these, the type where someone does something crazy and it injures/kills innocent people that were in the wrong place at the wrong time. I don't know why, but some how this story just annoys me more then others and maybe it's because children were involved. The driver of the car, if this was truly unintentional, it's tragic she has to live knowing the end results of what she did. On the other hand, if this was intentional, may God have mercy on her soul for what she has done.
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The investigation is focusing on a number of possibilities including driver error, medical distress, mechanical error, or a vehicle malfunction.
This may sound crazy, but unless I missed something, how about interrogating the driver of the car.
We've all read stories like these, the type where someone does something crazy and it injures/kills innocent people that were in the wrong place at the wrong time. I don't know why, but some how this story just annoys me more then others and maybe it's because children were involved. The driver of the car, if this was truly unintentional, it's tragic she has to live knowing the end results of what she did. On the other hand, if this was intentional, may God have mercy on her soul for what she has done.
I don't know if anyone else is still following this story. But the 65 year old who was driving the car has now been public identified as Ruth Burger. And she is being charged with "negligence causing her death" and 2 counts of "criminal negligence causing bodily harm".
Article here: https://ca.news.yahoo.com/woman-65-c...172821054.html
The saddest part: there is a legal loophole that she can not be charged with killing (or even harming) the newborn because she hadn't been born yet. So apparently that does not count in Canada. Which is ridiculous - she was 8 months along!
Also overlooked through this whole thing is that 2 others not related to this suffering family were injured too, though not severely. So that doesn't count. If I go up to a stranger and punch them in the face I am charged - they don't need to be hospitalized for the charges to stick either.
I think she should still receive additional charges.
Article here: https://ca.news.yahoo.com/woman-65-c...172821054.html
The saddest part: there is a legal loophole that she can not be charged with killing (or even harming) the newborn because she hadn't been born yet. So apparently that does not count in Canada. Which is ridiculous - she was 8 months along!
Also overlooked through this whole thing is that 2 others not related to this suffering family were injured too, though not severely. So that doesn't count. If I go up to a stranger and punch them in the face I am charged - they don't need to be hospitalized for the charges to stick either.
I think she should still receive additional charges.
Joined: Apr 2010
Posts: 12,605
From: Mentor, Ohio
Thanks Brent. I'm not actively tracking the story, but I've read each update you posted.
What bugs me is they won't state what happened to make the drive do this. I don't believe mechanical failure. But was there a medical issue, was the driver trying to make a point? What is the situation there.
And I believe charges should be pressed towards the driver for the others who were injured and the baby who died (granted, the laws are clearly goofy about the unborn/emergency birthed child, but there should be something charged for that).
What bugs me is they won't state what happened to make the drive do this. I don't believe mechanical failure. But was there a medical issue, was the driver trying to make a point? What is the situation there.
And I believe charges should be pressed towards the driver for the others who were injured and the baby who died (granted, the laws are clearly goofy about the unborn/emergency birthed child, but there should be something charged for that).
I've been following this story in the news as well. Just like any case like this, they always go over the car with a fine toothed comb. That way if the driver claims mechanical problems caused the accident, the police can say BS.
I can't see how anyone can say that was an accident going in reverse like that. Not the way Costco's entrace and parking lots are designed.
The remaining child is probably going to be traumatized for the rest of her life.
I can't see how anyone can say that was an accident going in reverse like that. Not the way Costco's entrace and parking lots are designed.
The remaining child is probably going to be traumatized for the rest of her life.
Somewhere I read that police figure the car was going 40km/h at impact. How hard and long do you need to be going in reverse to get up to 40 km/h? That is more than a foot slipping off a pedal or slipping the car into the wrong gear. Certainly enough time and distance to correct an error. Even if the accelerator stuck and brakes failed, there would be opportunity to stop (crash) the car against something other than the store entrance because she would have needed at least a 50 foot run at it - more like 100 feet. And I know that she was not backing out of a parking spot. The are no spots situated like that at this Costco.
Hopefully the 3 year old is young enough to forget some of this. The parents won't. And neither will I
Hopefully the 3 year old is young enough to forget some of this. The parents won't. And neither will I
It's almost a year. Of course, there will never be any resolve. But a judge convicted 66 year old Ruth Burger of dangerous driving causing death and dangerous driving causing bodily harm today. Sentencing won't be until Oct. 20th. She was charged with two counts of criminal negligence causing death and two counts of criminal negligence causing bodily harm in the case, but convicted of the lesser charge. I'm disappointed that she plead not guilty, as she clearly was. Did she think this wasn't that serious? Even the judge wasn't happy with her story. Pleading not guilty implies that she is not remorseful IMO. I don't think she'll do time, nor do I think that would be helpful at all. I want her to admit what really went on and I want her to feel it
Article here
Article here
Time to dig this up again! Sorry...
After receiving a "suspended 3 year sentence" and a 5 year ban on driving, this b!tch is actually appealing her verdict! How insensitive can you be? Most people, after killing an infant and a six year old, would need at least 5 years before they'd want to get behind the wheel again. She destroyed so many lives (aside from the ones she ended) and she thinks the system is hard on her?!? She never spent a single day behind bars! Not remorseful at all - I lose sleep over this case. Hopefully another trial will lead to a stricter conviction. They are publishing her picture now, so she may get lynched anyways because the community is really up in arms over this
Another article here
After receiving a "suspended 3 year sentence" and a 5 year ban on driving, this b!tch is actually appealing her verdict! How insensitive can you be? Most people, after killing an infant and a six year old, would need at least 5 years before they'd want to get behind the wheel again. She destroyed so many lives (aside from the ones she ended) and she thinks the system is hard on her?!? She never spent a single day behind bars! Not remorseful at all - I lose sleep over this case. Hopefully another trial will lead to a stricter conviction. They are publishing her picture now, so she may get lynched anyways because the community is really up in arms over this
Another article here
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