Monte carlo 2006 ss any good ?
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Monte carlo 2006 ss any good ?
HI all , I have a 2000 SS now for 23 years and was looking at the V8 06-07 MODELS .
Was wondering were they good cars ? My 2000 has been full of problems but i got it almost new and i'm attached to it . but not sure how much more money I can keep putting into it .
I really like the style and i'm so comfortable in this car . I found a few low mileage 2006 with the V8 5.3 motor . I have read this is a great engine , but the transmission is not and the 4 cyl system to save gas can cause all kinds of problems to trans and engine .
what's everyone thoughts on the V8 and is it worth trying to find one ? If one has very low mileage like under 40,000 what would I expect , would work need to be done to the engine and trans , That's something i'm worried about since its a 17 year old car .
what's a realistic good price for a 2006 & 2007 with mileage under 50K if possible to even find ? Of course they will be charging premiums for the low milage , that's fine but the dealerships are going to be asking crazy money for such a old car . I considered a 2006 GTO but they start at 25K and high mileage at that . Getting a low milage gto would be like buying a new V8 hemi Challenger . Any thoughts I would highly appreciate . Better used cars that have class under $16K of more recent years ? I love my 2000 SS , MY wife has a 2022 V6 Charger and the old monte 2000 with a measly 200 hp is still more fun to drive then the Charger that is a heavy TANK ! But my Monte days are getting coe to junkyard heaven . need help deciding anyone please .
Thanks guys or gals !!!!!
Was wondering were they good cars ? My 2000 has been full of problems but i got it almost new and i'm attached to it . but not sure how much more money I can keep putting into it .
I really like the style and i'm so comfortable in this car . I found a few low mileage 2006 with the V8 5.3 motor . I have read this is a great engine , but the transmission is not and the 4 cyl system to save gas can cause all kinds of problems to trans and engine .
what's everyone thoughts on the V8 and is it worth trying to find one ? If one has very low mileage like under 40,000 what would I expect , would work need to be done to the engine and trans , That's something i'm worried about since its a 17 year old car .
what's a realistic good price for a 2006 & 2007 with mileage under 50K if possible to even find ? Of course they will be charging premiums for the low milage , that's fine but the dealerships are going to be asking crazy money for such a old car . I considered a 2006 GTO but they start at 25K and high mileage at that . Getting a low milage gto would be like buying a new V8 hemi Challenger . Any thoughts I would highly appreciate . Better used cars that have class under $16K of more recent years ? I love my 2000 SS , MY wife has a 2022 V6 Charger and the old monte 2000 with a measly 200 hp is still more fun to drive then the Charger that is a heavy TANK ! But my Monte days are getting coe to junkyard heaven . need help deciding anyone please .
Thanks guys or gals !!!!!
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It didn't take long for people to start breaking them. The reputation started to spread and that left a permanent scar on their values. As the platform aged and the cars racked up mileage, the value proposition became much worse. Dropping $4 or 5k on a built transmission installed is tolerable on a $20k+ car, but when they got down well under $10k, its a hard pill for people to swallow to drop nearly 100% of their car's value on a built transmission.
I owned a GP GXP (basically the same as the v8 monte) from about 4k-60kish miles. I hated the fact that I was always worried about really enjoying the power for fear of destroying the transmission. I took great care of it and was very easy on the car. And yet, I still ran into transmission issues. It started having some major problems so I was in communication with the #1 4t65 builder in the country to plan for an upgrade. Luckily, I got rear ended by a semi before I put any money down. I used that as my escape to move on (to a GTO).
and the 4 cyl system to save gas can cause all kinds of problems to trans and engine .
Its also not always catastrophic - the more common problems are tied to high oil consumption.
what's everyone thoughts on the V8 and is it worth trying to find one ?
If one has very low mileage like under 40,000 what would I expect , would work need to be done to the engine and trans , That's something i'm worried about since its a 17 year old car .
what's a realistic good price for a 2006 & 2007 with mileage under 50K if possible to even find ?
W body values are very low and will continue to sink. Now that used car prices are falling a bit, you're starting to see higher mileage base models pop up again for just a couple grand. So its hard to justify any of them when you start getting well into the 5 figures.
I considered a 2006 GTO but they start at 25K and high mileage at that . Getting a low milage gto would be like buying a new V8 hemi Challenger .
I think I paid like $14k or so for my manual 05 with about 50k on it (again before the covid price craziness). Have you checked out the ls1gto forums? Theyve got a classifieds tab for used gtos only.
I absolutely love the GTO. The sound is so much better than my GP used to be (the fwd manifold setup makes the exhaust sound much worse). I go wide open throttle on on-ramps regularly with no fear of the powertrain exploding for no good reason. I can't express how nice it is to be able to do that without worry.
Better used cars that have class under $16K of more recent years ?
If you like GTOs, you should do more digging on prices - you should be able to find something decent for mid teens - especially if you aren't dead set on a LS2 / T56.
If you like W body cars - how about grand prix? Prices tend to be lower as more were made on the higher performance versions. Id just stick with a supercharged 3800 version.
With any car, I wouldnt pay a premium for a rare ultra low mile car (unless its virtually 0 and you're going to park it in a museum). Most of these cars will last 200k easily, and the price rises exponentially the closer you get to 0 miles. Going from one with 30 or 40k up to even 60 or 75k will still have a lot of life left and will cost literally half as much.
If you're open to other options, it would be helpful to have more info about what you're looking for (year range, brand, usage, 2/4 door, etc). We could think up some other options if you gave us a box to work within.
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That's really the only issue that matters with these cars- the transmission. It uses practically the same transmission as most all w bodies back into the late 90s - the 4t65. At best, that transmission was only rated to hold the 280ish tq of the supercharged v6 (which people often found the limits of when modding), yet GM made a handful of small modifications and magically updated the rating to 325 to say it was good to go for the v8. Well, it wasn't good to go.
Thank you so much for letting me know all about this , I had read a few reviews and I also remember something like this years ago that was a big issue with the V8 Monte .
Coming from a 87 Monte SS (I bought In 1994) I just never got into a Grand Prix , In any version especially that kinda Ugly GTP (well there is a story behind why I call it ugly too long to talk about now lol ) , When I got my 2000 Monte SS I was pretty happy I had made the right choice even if I didn't have a supercharged car . For one I couldn't afford those , I always wanted a Grand National , Especially the GNX , but was way too young and no money back then . Everyone who owned one, the turbos were always shot anyway so good thing I guess . The 95 Impala SS was nice .
How are the supercharged ones are with reliability ?
Why a 06 specifically? You should be able to get into a mid mileage 04 auto for upper 4 figures. The 04s are much less desirable due to the lower power LS1 - but its still way more power than a v8 monte makes. Even a 05-06 you should be able to find in the teens with decent mileage, especially if you're OK with a less desirable auto transmission.
06 because I found one with 24,000 miles but it's a dealership and there asking too much and something seems off about the place , But with the research i've done and your help it's gonna be a hard pass . I wanted a 07 but there even harder to come by .
I think I paid like $14k or so for my manual 05 with about 50k on it (again before the covid price craziness). Have you checked out the ls1gto forums? Theyve got a classifieds tab for used gtos only.
I just looked at the 05- 06 GTOs (auto) can't drive a stick lol, And i'm not finding much with decent low miles under $25k .
I absolutely love the GTO. The sound is so much better than my GP used to be (the fwd manifold setup makes the exhaust sound much worse). I go wide open throttle on on-ramps regularly with no fear of the powertrain exploding for no good reason. I can't express how nice it is to be able to do that without worry.
Do you need 4/5 seats? A C5 or older C6 would be in that range and a blast to drive.
Don't matter about the seats , it would just be my fun car in the spring-fall , (never taking it out in the snow ) No Vette for me , There fun but not what i'm looking for at all .
If you like GTOs, you should do more digging on prices - you should be able to find something decent for mid teens - especially if you aren't dead set on a LS2 / T56.
Yup I just noticed that the 2004 GTO are about the only ones that are affordable for me . So i'm going to look for some of them .
With any car, I wouldnt pay a premium for a rare ultra low mile car (unless its virtually 0 and you're going to park it in a museum). Most of these cars will last 200k easily, and the price rises exponentially the closer you get to 0 miles. Going from one with 30 or 40k up to even 60 or 75k will still have a lot of life left and will cost literally half as much.
Yes very true , Finding a good deal without all the premium mark ups is hard .
If you're open to other options, it would be helpful to have more info about what you're looking for (year range, brand, usage, 2/4 door, etc). We could think up some other options if you gave us a box to work within.
Thank you so much for letting me know all about this , I had read a few reviews and I also remember something like this years ago that was a big issue with the V8 Monte .
Coming from a 87 Monte SS (I bought In 1994) I just never got into a Grand Prix , In any version especially that kinda Ugly GTP (well there is a story behind why I call it ugly too long to talk about now lol ) , When I got my 2000 Monte SS I was pretty happy I had made the right choice even if I didn't have a supercharged car . For one I couldn't afford those , I always wanted a Grand National , Especially the GNX , but was way too young and no money back then . Everyone who owned one, the turbos were always shot anyway so good thing I guess . The 95 Impala SS was nice .
How are the supercharged ones are with reliability ?
Why a 06 specifically? You should be able to get into a mid mileage 04 auto for upper 4 figures. The 04s are much less desirable due to the lower power LS1 - but its still way more power than a v8 monte makes. Even a 05-06 you should be able to find in the teens with decent mileage, especially if you're OK with a less desirable auto transmission.
06 because I found one with 24,000 miles but it's a dealership and there asking too much and something seems off about the place , But with the research i've done and your help it's gonna be a hard pass . I wanted a 07 but there even harder to come by .
I think I paid like $14k or so for my manual 05 with about 50k on it (again before the covid price craziness). Have you checked out the ls1gto forums? Theyve got a classifieds tab for used gtos only.
I just looked at the 05- 06 GTOs (auto) can't drive a stick lol, And i'm not finding much with decent low miles under $25k .
I absolutely love the GTO. The sound is so much better than my GP used to be (the fwd manifold setup makes the exhaust sound much worse). I go wide open throttle on on-ramps regularly with no fear of the powertrain exploding for no good reason. I can't express how nice it is to be able to do that without worry.
Do you need 4/5 seats? A C5 or older C6 would be in that range and a blast to drive.
Don't matter about the seats , it would just be my fun car in the spring-fall , (never taking it out in the snow ) No Vette for me , There fun but not what i'm looking for at all .
If you like GTOs, you should do more digging on prices - you should be able to find something decent for mid teens - especially if you aren't dead set on a LS2 / T56.
Yup I just noticed that the 2004 GTO are about the only ones that are affordable for me . So i'm going to look for some of them .
With any car, I wouldnt pay a premium for a rare ultra low mile car (unless its virtually 0 and you're going to park it in a museum). Most of these cars will last 200k easily, and the price rises exponentially the closer you get to 0 miles. Going from one with 30 or 40k up to even 60 or 75k will still have a lot of life left and will cost literally half as much.
Yes very true , Finding a good deal without all the premium mark ups is hard .
If you're open to other options, it would be helpful to have more info about what you're looking for (year range, brand, usage, 2/4 door, etc). We could think up some other options if you gave us a box to work within.
But I need to put in a new oil pan , new brake lines and fuel lines , trans cleaning and filter , messy stuff that I do not know how to do , anything under the car I can't do . And something is up with a new vibration in the steering now . when pulling out of and in parking spaces or garage
Option 2 , 2004 GTO decent price and not too many miles . (would rather have a 2005-06 with the 400hp (who wouldn't) but they big bucks for again very old cars . ( I could imagine what the 60's muscle car guys must be saying when they here a 2005 is old LOL . In a world where money didn't matter I would have a 1970 Road Runner convertible with the beep beep horn
and a 2023 Dodge Demon . Option 3 2005 Monte Carlo Supercharged . again decent price and miles , Why 05 , Trying to get the least older car if possible . Buying such old cars is a worry . But any car can be a worry .
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How are the supercharged ones are with reliability ?
The big thing is watching out for mods - especially blower pulley size. With the falling prices, a lot of people picked up those cars and modded them not knowing what they were doing. Changing the blower pulley without supporting mods + monitoring for knock can destroy the engine (and it isn't always catastrophic - it could require a compression test to find).
06 because I found one with 24,000 miles but it's a dealership and there asking too much and something seems off about the place , But with the research i've done and your help it's gonna be a hard pass . I wanted a 07 but there even harder to come by .
Personally I'd search private party sales instead. You'll save the dealer markup, and frankly a dealer isn't offering anything special on a car that old anyways.
I just looked at the 05- 06 GTOs (auto) can't drive a stick lol, And i'm not finding much with decent low miles under $25k .
Yup I just noticed that the 2004 GTO are about the only ones that are affordable for me . So i'm going to look for some of them .
Trying to get the least older car if possible . Buying such old cars is a worry . But any car can be a worry .
Given you've done so much work on your 00, I think you'll find its easier to work on cars from that era. Theres so much interconnected electronic garbage on these newer cars that troubleshooting some issues can be a real pain.
In case you aren't aware, its worth mentioning the GTO country of origin - Australia. As that platform was only in the US for one model for three years, parts availability is tough. Every junkyard has at least a few w body cars to pull from (and some used to have dozens). With a GTO you'll likely never see a single one. There are people doing part outs of wrecked cars, but you're at the mercy of whats available at the moment. Its also getting to the age where OEM parts are starting to be discontinued (as are the Montes, but you have more junkyard + aftermarket options with them).
Luckily the common wear parts all have good aftermarket upgrade options (struts, brakes, etc). The worrisome part is body stuff / wrecks as the parts tend to be expensive / difficult to find. Insurance is usually quick to total them as a result.
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Thank so much , I really appreciate you taking time to write to me and help .
So far the best deals i'm finding are on 2004 supercharged Monte Carlos , I got 3 im looking at and 1 2004 GTO . I'll let you know what comes of it and if i get one or none . We had a 2018 Jetta and that was the worst car I ever owned . My wife got a Charger now and she loves it . I think we overpaid bigtime . I have always been a fan of the W bodys and just feel so much more comfortable driving one . But I really want more power then the 2000 SS . Its time , I deserve it .
Talk to you later ,
Thanks again .
So far the best deals i'm finding are on 2004 supercharged Monte Carlos , I got 3 im looking at and 1 2004 GTO . I'll let you know what comes of it and if i get one or none . We had a 2018 Jetta and that was the worst car I ever owned . My wife got a Charger now and she loves it . I think we overpaid bigtime . I have always been a fan of the W bodys and just feel so much more comfortable driving one . But I really want more power then the 2000 SS . Its time , I deserve it .
Talk to you later ,
Thanks again .
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You talked about the Charger feeling heavy - IMO the GTO feels substantially heavier than a w body. The actual difference isn't really that much - maybe 300 # or so, but there's something about the suspension that makes it feel like more to me.
Another thing is it would be nice for you to get an apples to apples feel of power. The supercharged 3800 will feel noticeably more powerful than your current 3800, but its still on a different planet than a 5.7 LS. Will probably be more expensive than the monte, but if power is a priority, it may be worth shelling out a few more bucks for 100+ extra right out of the gate.
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Very true on all counts . when you mean the suspension on the GTO , Is that a good thing or its sluggish ? The Charger is just the V6 we own and just in regular cruising first few gears feel like we're pushing a tank . Of course if you jump on it . Its not bad but still a heavy darn car . The Hemi would have been the better choice since my wife wanted this so bad . Problem was the small hood scoop on the Chargers/challengers take away your view of sight from the windshield , Just made us uncomfortable driving + cost much more .
I going to look at this on Saturday , what do you think , I'm not sure about this place , Mixed reviews , so maybe to good to be true . https://www.knbmotors.com/inventory/.../gto/11431con/
Then there is this , been talking with the guy a lot and seems respectable . Not crazy he painted it with gold trim https://www.cars.com/vehicledetail/6..._EML&smtrctid=
This guy hasn't replied back yet , its the V8 but depending on the rice it may be worth it https://www.ebay.com/itm/36425994023...is&media=EMAIL
This one is gonna be too much money , He has a reserve , But it sure does look nice https://www.ebay.com/itm/314597309345
This last thing is floor mats for my 2000 monte carlo that need new mats badly and I cant find grey anywhere . I don't want to spend much at all , Just need floor mats to clean the car up a little .
Any idea if they will fit ? The look a little off . https://www.ebay.com/itm/363393716363
Thanks .
I going to look at this on Saturday , what do you think , I'm not sure about this place , Mixed reviews , so maybe to good to be true . https://www.knbmotors.com/inventory/.../gto/11431con/
Then there is this , been talking with the guy a lot and seems respectable . Not crazy he painted it with gold trim https://www.cars.com/vehicledetail/6..._EML&smtrctid=
This guy hasn't replied back yet , its the V8 but depending on the rice it may be worth it https://www.ebay.com/itm/36425994023...is&media=EMAIL
This one is gonna be too much money , He has a reserve , But it sure does look nice https://www.ebay.com/itm/314597309345
This last thing is floor mats for my 2000 monte carlo that need new mats badly and I cant find grey anywhere . I don't want to spend much at all , Just need floor mats to clean the car up a little .
Any idea if they will fit ? The look a little off . https://www.ebay.com/itm/363393716363
Thanks .
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I'm just thinking if you've got an aversion to heavier vehicles, its certainly doesnt hide its weight well. Its very clear youre driving a heavy car like a challenger. Certainly the monte is no lightweight either, but I can definitely tell the difference between the two behind the wheel when turning / going over bumps.
I going to look at this on Saturday , what do you think , I'm not sure about this place , Mixed reviews , so maybe to good to be true . https://www.knbmotors.com/inventory/.../gto/11431con/
A can of black spray paint would definitely be mod (de mod?) #1 for me. Its crazy how much the covid supply chain crunch has driven up the market. Even with those miles, pre-COVID anyone would be lucky to get $10k for that (04 auto). Certainly a few k of that is dealer markup though.
I think it'd absolutely at least worth a test drive since you're interested in them. Should be able to tell if thats a platform you're still interested in or not. Even if its on the expensive end due to current market conditions, the car does look well kept from the pictures.
Then there is this , been talking with the guy a lot and seems respectable . Not crazy he painted it with gold trim https://www.cars.com/vehicledetail/6..._EML&smtrctid=
The price is pretty good if it checks out. You could easily have the gold sprayed a different color and still not be into the car for too much. I like the gto better, but if a thorough check comes back good on both, I'd be hard pressed to suggest spending literally double for the gto.
This guy hasn't replied back yet , its the V8 but depending on the rice it may be worth it https://www.ebay.com/itm/36425994023...is&media=EMAIL
Given the mileage, I'd imagine its a stock transmission too. So mentally I automatically add $4-5k to the price to cover a built transmission (its about $3k for a bare minimum TEP LS4 build + shipping + tax + R&R). Even if it drives fine today, it may not next week or next year. Its just a matter of time before you'll have to spend it (or dump the car at a junkyard when it does blow).
This one is gonna be too much money , He has a reserve , But it sure does look nice https://www.ebay.com/itm/314597309345
I do wonder what the reserve is. Every year at the major auctions there seem to be a handful of virtually 0 mile examples of these go through for $20 flat or very low 20s for the rarest editions. Certainly at 20k miles, this is fairly close, but its far enough off from 0 that a hardcore collector isn't going to buy it. I can't imagine they're really expecting to get much more out of this - maybe 15?
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Not necessarily good or bad, just different. Its intended to be a sportier suspension setup as the focus was more on performance for every unit sold (vs the monte that had sporty and non sporty models). For some reason, that tighter suspension gives me the feeling that the car is a good bit heavier, even though I know it really isn't all that much.
I'm just thinking if you've got an aversion to heavier vehicles, its certainly doesnt hide its weight well. Its very clear youre driving a heavy car like a challenger. Certainly the monte is no lightweight either, but I can definitely tell the difference between the two behind the wheel when turning / going over bumps.
That's pretty neat - almost identical to my car (besides mine being a manual 05). I was flipping through the pictures admiring what a beautiful (mostly) stock car it was and then WHAT THE HECK HAPPENED TO THE HOOD LINER !!?!. Lol
A can of black spray paint would definitely be mod (de mod?) #1 for me. Its crazy how much the covid supply chain crunch has driven up the market. Even with those miles, pre-COVID anyone would be lucky to get $10k for that (04 auto). Certainly a few k of that is dealer markup though.
I think it'd absolutely at least worth a test drive since you're interested in them. Should be able to tell if thats a platform you're still interested in or not. Even if its on the expensive end due to current market conditions, the car does look well kept from the pictures.
Yes a couldn't agree more and at the very least I can test drive it and see if this is a car that will make me happy and feel good . And your so right flipping the pictures when my wife and I got to the goat underhood advertisement (I apologize for this language ) But it was a WTF moment . Like what was this a showroom car for a burrito/taco stand in Carolina ? OMG! LOL
Is it matte paint or something? The paint looks really awful in pictures. The price is pretty good, but Id be super cautious of body damage / checking all over to make sure that thing wasn't piled up at some point. Not a lot of people would go through the cost of a full paint job on something with such low mileage.
That is exactly what my wife said what's up with this paint is it a matte finish , Same words you just said ... Your right and there are some red flags up .
The price is pretty good if it checks out. You could easily have the gold sprayed a different color and still not be into the car for too much. I like the gto better, but if a thorough check comes back good on both, I'd be hard pressed to suggest spending literally double for the gto.
Hard thing with ebay is you've got no idea where it'll end up price wise. Id also be hard pressed to bid on something thats not local in case something turns up in your inspection that wasn't disclosed. Price seems ok today, but it could quickly get up to not ok money, especially with 4 days to go.
Given the mileage, I'd imagine its a stock transmission too. So mentally I automatically add $4-5k to the price to cover a built transmission (its about $3k for a bare minimum TEP LS4 build + shipping + tax + R&R). Even if it drives fine today, it may not next week or next year. Its just a matter of time before you'll have to spend it (or dump the car at a junkyard when it does blow).
I agree and yes buying something so far away that I can't actually look at is not appealing , If you look ebay gives the whole vehicle history and IT seems it started out in Las Vegas as a rental . The heat in the desert worries me and even worse a RENTAL and then sold at auction Those things are beat to hell . Then at 8,000 miles was sold to someone in Montana and they kept it up until 2021 , At 27,000 miles someone bought it from Washington where it's at now . Had a few lien's as well . Shipping suing ebay will cost $1,332 plus a $100 inspection I would want done pre-purchase . All this is adding a lot of cost and we haven't even factored in the TAX I will pay at 8% to Illinois .
Hard part with those is always the NASCAR edition premiums. Theres enough NASCAR fans out there that they always seem to drive the price up at least an extra grand over what the car would normally be worth just for the name on it. Persoanlly, I don't watch or follow it at all, so its meaningless to me. I agree its a clean looking car!
Same here , I don't know anything about nascar and really could care less about these special signature label ones . Though Eliminator looks and sound cool and I do love that the SS is red like my 2000 . I noticed they dropped making the SS in red in the later years .
I do wonder what the reserve is. Every year at the major auctions there seem to be a handful of virtually 0 mile examples of these go through for $20 flat or very low 20s for the rarest editions. Certainly at 20k miles, this is fairly close, but its far enough off from 0 that a hardcore collector isn't going to buy it. I can't imagine they're really expecting to get much more out of this - maybe 15?
I'm just thinking if you've got an aversion to heavier vehicles, its certainly doesnt hide its weight well. Its very clear youre driving a heavy car like a challenger. Certainly the monte is no lightweight either, but I can definitely tell the difference between the two behind the wheel when turning / going over bumps.
That's pretty neat - almost identical to my car (besides mine being a manual 05). I was flipping through the pictures admiring what a beautiful (mostly) stock car it was and then WHAT THE HECK HAPPENED TO THE HOOD LINER !!?!. Lol
A can of black spray paint would definitely be mod (de mod?) #1 for me. Its crazy how much the covid supply chain crunch has driven up the market. Even with those miles, pre-COVID anyone would be lucky to get $10k for that (04 auto). Certainly a few k of that is dealer markup though.
I think it'd absolutely at least worth a test drive since you're interested in them. Should be able to tell if thats a platform you're still interested in or not. Even if its on the expensive end due to current market conditions, the car does look well kept from the pictures.
Yes a couldn't agree more and at the very least I can test drive it and see if this is a car that will make me happy and feel good . And your so right flipping the pictures when my wife and I got to the goat underhood advertisement (I apologize for this language ) But it was a WTF moment . Like what was this a showroom car for a burrito/taco stand in Carolina ? OMG! LOL
Is it matte paint or something? The paint looks really awful in pictures. The price is pretty good, but Id be super cautious of body damage / checking all over to make sure that thing wasn't piled up at some point. Not a lot of people would go through the cost of a full paint job on something with such low mileage.
That is exactly what my wife said what's up with this paint is it a matte finish , Same words you just said ... Your right and there are some red flags up .
The price is pretty good if it checks out. You could easily have the gold sprayed a different color and still not be into the car for too much. I like the gto better, but if a thorough check comes back good on both, I'd be hard pressed to suggest spending literally double for the gto.
Hard thing with ebay is you've got no idea where it'll end up price wise. Id also be hard pressed to bid on something thats not local in case something turns up in your inspection that wasn't disclosed. Price seems ok today, but it could quickly get up to not ok money, especially with 4 days to go.
Given the mileage, I'd imagine its a stock transmission too. So mentally I automatically add $4-5k to the price to cover a built transmission (its about $3k for a bare minimum TEP LS4 build + shipping + tax + R&R). Even if it drives fine today, it may not next week or next year. Its just a matter of time before you'll have to spend it (or dump the car at a junkyard when it does blow).
I agree and yes buying something so far away that I can't actually look at is not appealing , If you look ebay gives the whole vehicle history and IT seems it started out in Las Vegas as a rental . The heat in the desert worries me and even worse a RENTAL and then sold at auction Those things are beat to hell . Then at 8,000 miles was sold to someone in Montana and they kept it up until 2021 , At 27,000 miles someone bought it from Washington where it's at now . Had a few lien's as well . Shipping suing ebay will cost $1,332 plus a $100 inspection I would want done pre-purchase . All this is adding a lot of cost and we haven't even factored in the TAX I will pay at 8% to Illinois .
Hard part with those is always the NASCAR edition premiums. Theres enough NASCAR fans out there that they always seem to drive the price up at least an extra grand over what the car would normally be worth just for the name on it. Persoanlly, I don't watch or follow it at all, so its meaningless to me. I agree its a clean looking car!
Same here , I don't know anything about nascar and really could care less about these special signature label ones . Though Eliminator looks and sound cool and I do love that the SS is red like my 2000 . I noticed they dropped making the SS in red in the later years .
I do wonder what the reserve is. Every year at the major auctions there seem to be a handful of virtually 0 mile examples of these go through for $20 flat or very low 20s for the rarest editions. Certainly at 20k miles, this is fairly close, but its far enough off from 0 that a hardcore collector isn't going to buy it. I can't imagine they're really expecting to get much more out of this - maybe 15?
I suppose best time to have looked for a car was once covid just hit . But that was the last thing on our minds at the time . As well as I made some serious errors in judgement and panicked and sold off much of my future retirement funds and did some really stupid stock buys and lost so much right after the 2020 election . If i just had left everything alone ..... A 2005-06 GTO would of been no problem right now . As our finances stand we may never recover what was lost . Or many years down the road with how bad things are right now . Hard pill to swallow making very poor choices . But I have to consider the future and my SS is not getting any newer and it's time for me to find another car . We leased VW from 2015-2022 and we had enough of that for the family car (not really good cars), My wife wanted a Charger and we got one . Overpriced that's a understatement . We have no kids and getting near mid 50's . I like to enjoy the rest of our 50's . I'm really set on what I want without breaking the bank ... well the bank is broken anyway LOL .
Thanks again , I'm babbling too much , It's those pain meds . Oh I forgot did you get a chance to look at those floor mats ? would they fit the 2000 SS ?
