Guys the camaro hasnt left the damn wind tunnel yet lol.The car is not going to be made guys the camaro if made will be a very limited run ..

The challenger is on the road..


I know kids this car scares you isnt that right.Your too used to your mom's mini van or daddies japan sewing machine which you think is fast.LOl.
If you buy japan made cars your a damn traitor to this country and our auto market.
Your the problem this car is the solution.
be prepared to have your little rice burning asses handed to you when you pull up on one of these rice eaters....
See what playing play sytaion got you ,poor grades and a lack of reality on what a makes a car real or just fantasy.
This car is reality!~[/align]

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Wherein We Call a Knockout Before the First Round
- Edmunds Inside Line

Platform sharing. Gotta love it. Car companies spread the cost of developing a crash structure or a suspension system or powertrain over a number of different models that theoretically will appeal to different paying customers. It's economies of scale, as the guys wearing the suits like to call it.

Yeah, cool. But the real benefit of platform sharing is that it allows Inside Line to conduct a comparison test of two vehicles that we have not yet actually tested. In fact, we have not even seen the production version of one of the two combatants, the 2010 Chevrolet Camaro. We have driven a 2009 Dodge Challenger SRT8, which you might think would give the reborn Mopar something of an advantage over the reborn bowtie. You, however, would be wrong.

Since we will be using data from the 2008 Pontiac G8 GT we just track-tested and the Dodge Charger SRT8 that we've tested on a couple of occasions to draw some conclusions about the Camaro and Challenger, you could call this a comparison test by proxy. Or you could call it silly. But you cannot call our conclusions invalid. And if you did, we probably wouldn't listen anyway.

So, let's get the make-believe motors running and head out onto the hypothetical highway.

Where the Rubber Meets the Road (or Soon Will)
First, let's take a moment to thank the folks at Chrysler, LLC and its SRT division for making this part of the comparison such a total gimme. So, thank you and good luck with that whole "future" thing.

For all the hoopla and the car's unique bitchin'-ness, the Challenger SRT8 that the company introduced at February's Chicago auto show is essentially a two-door version of the Charger SRT8. Both carry the identical 6.1-liter Hemi V8 — a bored-out version of the standard 5.7-liter motor. Both run the same 10.3:1 compression ratio. Both gulp 91-octane gasoline. Both make the same 425 horsepower at 6,200 rpm and 420 pound-feet of torque at 4,800 rpm. And the coolant capacity? The same 14 quarts. Possibly, you're getting our drift.

Both send all that power through the same five-speed shiftable automatic transmission that carries the same gear ratios and on to the rear axle, which carries the same ratio. Both cars are held off the ground by the same dual control-arm front and five-link independent rear suspensions. Both use Bilstein monotube dampers, front and rear. They carry identical Brembo-designed brakes and are fitted with Goodyear three-season tires of the same size, 245/45/20 front and 255/45/20 rear.

And although the Challenger's wheelbase is 4 inches shorter than the Charger's, Chrysler claims the Challenger is only 20 pounds lighter than the big-brother sedan. At 4,140 pounds and 4,160 pounds, both are heavyweights.

Dodge claims that the Charger SRT8 thunders to 60 mph in "the low-5-second range" and on to a "quarter-mile time under 14 seconds." When last we tested a Charger SRT8, we came away with a 60-mph sprint of 5.3 seconds and a quarter-mile run of 13.6 seconds at 105.8 mph.

Unless Dodge has something very tricky up its sleeve (unlikely), the Challenger isn't going to be much quicker. The company claimed at its Chicago auto show press conference that the Challenger SRT8 could get to 60 mph in 4.9 seconds. We're going to guess something more on the order of 5.1 seconds. This all depends on how strong the particular test engine is and on what surface the acceleration run is conducted.

No matter, for as impressive as its acceleration is, we can't help but think it could be faster if both cars weren't so heavy and didn't wear those big old 20-inchers.

Lies, and the Lying Liars Who Lie Them
The 2010 Camaro is a little harder to figure because Chevy won't release official specifications on the production car for some time. But it's not like the car is going to have a four-cylinder turbodiesel and a third row of

 

I will be very interested in seeing a side by side test of the two cars as soon as possible. The post right above got me excited, for I would rather have a Camaro. I very much dislike any dodge product and will never own one.

As for Kowalskii's comment, man I dont know who you are and what your deal is coming here and posting **** like that. I can pretty much speak for everyone here that stuff like that isnt welcome here. I guarantee you that if you continue to post stuff like that here, your welcome here will be very short lived.

 

 

 

See, notfeeding the troll works, but shooting it works even better. Lol im just kidding Ill ignore people like that from now on.

 

i think i'd take a camaro if i had the choice and the money of course, but the 09 model year starts this summer and its not even close to being done yet, and as for the 08 challenger its already later for its year, were gonna be seeing 09 cars here soon i think they are both gettin people too worked up for what the cars will actually be

 

Umm who are you?? First please don't post those kind of comments around here. They are not tollerated at all.

Second let me say a few words about your post. The Camaro has been seen in the United States being tested on public roads so i dont know what you mean by hasn't left the wind tunnel. The camaro will also beat the dodge challenger easily if they drop the LS7 in it which is rumored to be true. One more thing. Everyone on this forum drives a monte carlo which is definitely not a "rice burner." So why don't you just stop those kind of comments.

 

Both cars are wonderful, but i have scene each car in person, and i must say, that challenger is awesome. It has style like none other, as for power wars... I ask this question, at what point do you say... alright, that much power isn't even usefull. I'm willing to bet that Chrysler will have something up their sleeve to push the challenger up to 500 horse if they need to (a whole new generation of hemis are about to debut) but i really don't think its necessary... 425 horsepower would satisfy my requirements for a sports coupe...

if i wanted to take something to the track, i would rather buy a corvette or a lotus... or an atom



Not knocking the camaro at all.... the tick toc gauges are awesome, and i think it will be a great car, but i love the challenger so much more!


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o and he says this car is the solution cuz its american made? we all know that no cars are truely american made anymore look at the first # of the vin it will be a 2 wont it? and it will be japanese parts no matter what car it is or who makes it the most any car will ever be anymore is american ASSEMBLED so wheres his solution now