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Old Dec 22, 2009 | 01:04 PM
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Okay, still doing research for the upcoming top swap, and I just want to make sure that the engine is overengineered so that I dont have any internal problems, and so I'm able to go any way I want in the future. At the moment my block has over 140,000 miles and I would assume that it still has the stock timing chain in the car. I was thinking about putting a double chain drive in place of the single (once again I like to overengineer), but I read that the balance shaft gear or the entire balance shaft would have to be removed. I was wondering if anyone knows how that effects the way the engine runs or the feel of the car under acceleration, deceleration, and while driving on the highway.
 
Old Dec 22, 2009 | 04:12 PM
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I was thinking about putting a double chain drive in place of the single (once again I like to overengineer), but I read that the balance shaft gear or the entire balance shaft would have to be removed. I was wondering if anyone knows how that effects the way the engine runs or the feel of the car under acceleration, deceleration, and while driving on the highway.
I run a double roller on my 96 monte- and you must delete the balance shaft (well, as you said, you can just delete the gear and leave the shaft- personally I pulled the shaft and plugged the rear oil hole). I really doubt you'll be able to tell the difference with and without. Granted 99.99% of people that do these have pretty big cams, so of course the engine won't be as smooth at idle- but up above 1500 rpm or so, my engine is just as smooth as stock (granted I had it professionally balanced in the rebuild)- but i've been in others' cars that had it deleted with a stock bottom end, and its the same thing.

Now, my second thing is- if you don't NEED a double roller timing chain- don't get one. There is no reason to 'over engineer' the timing chain, the stock one works just fine- and you're not going to break it (one in good condition)- the dampener does wear over time as the chain stretches, but thats about it. I do think its a good idea to stick a new one on if you've got it all apart, but you really should just stick a stock set in there.

The double roller requires you to machine down the oil pump housing cover so the chain doesn't hit it; some require cleanup around the seat on the crank sprocket (due to interference with the crank); and you will no longer have any tensioner- which means when this chain stretches too much, you're going to have to pull it apart and install a new one- you're not going to be able to drive another 140k miles without worry on it.

Its one thing if you've got a big nasty cam in there with some 130 or 150# springs, but there is no reason to beef it up if you don't have that. Also, if you decide to do a big cam in the future, you're gonna have to pull the timing set anyways, so you can just install a double roller then.

C6 Corvette 5 spoke rims (18x8.5 i think), and calipers (hopefully the C6 Z06 calipers, still doing research)
Looking at your mod list- how are you going to make these work? As far as I knew the C6 had a different wheel bolt pattern- and I thought the calipers had an intergral bracket and wouldn't bolt up? Plus, where are you going to find 14" rotors that bolt up to a wbody and have the correct offset to use with them?
 
Old Dec 23, 2009 | 01:57 PM
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Thanks bumpin, I was actually hoping to hear from you on that. As far as the C6 rims go, I looked into some custom MC bearings with 120mm bolt pattern. If I go that route, some stock corvette rotors would mount right up. I would need a spacer for the rims though if i went with the Z06 calipers. I think it would be a 1 inch spacer...which i might need to mount the rims anyway due to interference with the strut. Like I said though, Im still in the research phase. But the z06 caliper should mount right up to the spindle on the MC as long as a regular corvette caliper bracket mounts up to a MC spindle
 
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