>I hope he's OK, he sure helps me a lot. I'm going to go visit him @ the body shop & bring him a battery & flowers

Google self-driving car strikes bus on California street Oh `No, was Mr Google Hurt ?

LOS ANGELES (AP) — A self-driving car being tested by Google struck a public bus on a Silicon Valley street, a fender-bender that appears to be the first time one of the tech company's vehicles caused a crash during testing.

Google's self-driving Lexus car drives along street during a demonstration at Google campus in Mountain View, Calif. A self-driving car being tested by Google struck a public bus on a city street, a fender-bender that appears to be the first time one of the tech company's vehicles caused an accident. The collision occurred on Valentine's Day and Google reported it to California's Department of Motor Vehicles in an accident report that the agency posted Monday, Feb. 29. February 29, 2016Google accepted at least some responsibility for the collision, which occurred on Valentine's Day when one of the Lexus SUVs it has outfitted with sensors and cameras hit the side of the bus near the company's headquarters in Mountain View, California.


No one was injured, according to an accident report Google wrote and submitted to the California Department of Motor Vehicles. It was posted online Monday. According to the report, Google's car intended to turn right off a major boulevard when it detected sandbags around a storm drain at the intersection.
The right lane was wide enough to let some cars turn and others go straight, but the Lexus needed to slide to its left within the right lane to get around the obstruction. The Lexus was going 2 mph when it made the move and its left front struck the right side of the bus, which was going straight at 15 mph.
The car's test driver — who under state law must be in the front seat to grab the wheel when needed — thought the bus would yield and did not have control before the collision, Google said. While the report does not address fault, Google said in a written statement, "We clearly bear some responsibility, because if our car hadn't moved there wouldn't have been a collision."
Chris Urmson, the head of Google's self-driving car project, said in a brief interview that he believes the Lexus was moving before the bus started to pass. "We saw the bus, we tracked the bus, we thought the bus was going to slow down, we started to pull out, there was some momentum involved," Urmson told The Associated Press.
He acknowledged that Google's car did have some responsibility but said it was "not black and white." The Santa Clara Valley Transportation Authority said none of the 15 passengers or the driver of the bus was injured.
The transit agency is reviewing the incident and hasn't reached any conclusions about liability, spokeswoman Stacey Hendler Ross said in a written statement. There may never be a legal decision on fault, especially if damage was negligible — as both sides indicated it was — and neither Google nor the transit authority pushes the case.
Still, the collision could be the first time a Google car in autonomous mode caused a crash. Google cars have been involved in nearly a dozen collisions in or around Mountain View since starting to test on city streets in the spring of 2014. In most cases, Google's cars were rear-ended. No one has been seriously injured.
Google's written statement called the Feb. 14 collision "a classic example of the negotiation that's a normal part of driving — we're all trying to predict each other's movements." Google said its computers have reviewed the incident and engineers changed the software that governs the cars to understand that buses may not be as inclined to yield as other vehicles.
Jessica Gonzalez, a spokeswoman for California's DMV, which regulates Google's testing of about two dozen Lexus SUVs in the state, said agency officials spoke Monday with Google but would have no comment. Under state law, Google must retain data from the moments before and after any collision.
"As far as he-said she-said, there shouldn't be any of that. It's all there," said Robert W. Peterson, an insurance law expert at Santa Clara University who has studied self-driving cars. A critic of Google's self-driving car efforts said the collision shows the tech giant should be kept from taking onto public streets self-driving prototypes it built without a steering wheel or pedals.
Google sees that as the next natural step for the technology, and has pressed California's DMV and federal regulators to authorize cars in which humans have limited means of intervening. "Clearly Google's robot cars can't reliably cope with everyday driving situations," said John M. Simpson of the nonprofit Consumer Watchdog. "There needs to be a licensed driver who can takeover, even if in this case the test driver failed to step in as he should have."

 

 

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Top 20 Pros and Cons Associated With Self-Driving Cars

If there's one topic that gets a lot of attention lately in the media, the public policy sphere, and in general health and wellness discussions, it is how to make the roadways safer. According to the Centers for Disease Control, fatalities from traffic incidents happen on an annual basis upwards of 33,000 people. Many of these accidents are preventable, and an alarming number of them are a result of distracted driving.
In the past few years, as a result of the number of traffic accidents plaguing the country and the devastating injuries and fatalities that result from them, a greater push has been made in the sphere of technology to make cars safer, drivers more aware, and accidents less likely. Alongside other technology that has emerged during this time is the idea of self-driving cars, an advancement that seems like it belongs in a futuristic movie. The reality is that self-driving cars aren't that far off, actually, but the debate over whether they increase or decrease safety rages on.
Drivers- At Fault For Most Accidents
While surely some faulty mechanics can be cited as the cause for certain accidents, more often than not drivers themselves are the most dangerous things about hitting the open road. The reality is that there are so many factors at play when a driver gets behind the wheel and a safe road experience relies on a driver that is 100 percent focused on the road. According to Google's director of the self-driving car program, Chris Urmson, Google's vehicles are better all around: "They are more courteous and more defensive drivers than normal drivers."
Most people are aware of how to drive safely. Whether it is tips they picked up from driver's education or learned behind the wheel while a parent guided them through driving maneuvers, many people start out with a heightened awareness and desire for safety behind the wheel. Over time, however, it's easy to be lulled into a sense of false confidence that makes a driver think that he or she is paying "enough" attention to get by.
Speeding, being distracted by happenings inside the car or outside, failing to follow road laws, or driving while tired, drunk, or under the influence of drugs can all be extremely dangerous. Adding just one of these factors to the mix dramatically increases the chances that an accident will happen. While all of these factors are unlikely to be controlled every time a driver turns the ignition key, the same is not necessarily true for self-driving cars.


Right now, self-driving cars can only be tested in Washington, D.C., Nevada, Florida, Michigan, and California. There is certainly a lot of interest in to what extent they might influence transportation, but research and testing are still ongoing.
Pros: Self-Driving Cars
1) In comparison to the myriad of bad behaviors a driver might exhibit behind the wheel, a computer is actually an ideal motorist. Since 81 percent of car crashes are the result of human error, computers would take a lot of danger out of the equation entirely.
2) Computers use complicated algorithms to determine appropriate stopping distance, distance from another vehicle and other data that decreases the chances of car accidents dramatically
3) There are no opportunities for a computer to be "distracted", which is a leading cause of accidents in the United States at present.
4) Although it's not clear to what extent lives would be saved, it's obvious that human driven cars come at a very high cost in terms of danger.
5) The U.S. Department of Transportation actually assigns a value to each human life: $9.2 million. Therefore, there would be a significant cost savings in many different venues like insurance costs and healthcare costs associated with accident recovery alone.
6) As an article from Forbes points out, there is also a cost savings associated with time. When a computer takes over the driving responsibilities, drivers can use that time to do other things, like catch up on reading or chat with passengers, all without having to worry too much about road safety.
7) According to Eno Transportation, self-driving cars in large number participate in a behavior known as platooning, which would significantly improve traffic conditions and congestion. This would help to reduce commute times for drivers in high-traffic areas but also to maximize on gasoline usage.
8) In order for the cars to operate most efficiently, they'd need to communicate with one another, helping to identify traffic problems or road risks early on.
9) Disabled individuals, who have to rely on public transportation or assistance from others to get around, could reap the benefits of self-driving cars with new freedom and enhanced mobility, as suggested by the New York Times.
10) Larger cities are plagued with the problem of providingadequate public transportation. Many have a lack of appropriate infrastructure to support the needs of their residents, a void that could partially be filled by self-driving cars.
11) Over time, higher speed limits might be considered as an option if more people are using self-driving cars. Since the computers calculate operation of the vehicle safely, driving time could be reduced by faster speeds allowed on the road.
12) Companies are always interested in new product development and taking the industry forward by a step, as indicated by theseven companies who requested permits for self-driving car development in California alone.
13) Many cars are already equipped with features in the first stage of "automatic" driving, like autonomous braking, self-parking, or sensors that clue a driver in to a nearby obstacle.
14) Drunk driving incidents should decrease, because there's no designated driver needed when the car drives itself.
15) Massive savings could be recouped from being spent on older mass transit projects like trains.
16) Police officer focus could be shifted from writing traffic tickets and handling accidents to managing other, more serious crimes.
17) Sensors in the autonomous cars allow vehicles to ride closer together, therefore allowing more cars on the road with actually less traffic.
18) Less parking structures and parking headaches would be required, since your car could actually drop you off and locate a parking space farther away.
19) The line at the DMV would be cut short since people wouldn't need a specialized driving license to operate cars.
20) There is a less of a concern about taking the keys away from Grandma when she gets too old to drive carefully- the car will take care of her!
Cons: Self-Driving Cars
1) Just having the ability to operate a self-driving car would require an education on the driver's part, according to Teletrac. While the computer takes over once the vehicle is operational, the driver would still be required to maintain some knowledge about how to operate it safely.
2) The cost of implementing the new technology could be way out of reach for most Americans. Currently, the engineering, power and computer requirements, software, and sensors add up to more than $100,000.
3) The most savings in terms of cost, time, and lives is going to come from when more people "opt in" to the service. If self-driving cars are not adopted widely, accidents can and will still happen.
4) The very security behind self-driving cars would be a major obstacle, especially because the technology would be of very high interest to hackers, as pointed out by the Guardian.
5) In order for a computer to operate a vehicle, a lot of information would have to be stored on the software. Some individuals are concerned about the opportunity for a computer built into the self-driving car to collect personal data.
6) Even though there are concerns about the adequate nature of public transportation, self-driving cars would eliminate many jobs in the transportation sector, especially when it comes to freight transportation and taxi drivers. This could have a negative impact on the unemployment rate and the economy.
7) A self-driving car doesn't completely eliminate the likelihood of a car accident. In fact, there's no legal precedent for how a case would be handled. The difficult question of who holds responsibility in a car accident- the driver? The car manufacturer? The software developer? Could be tricky to answer.
8) The cars are not able to operate at a high level of safety in all weather conditions. In fact, heavy rain can do serious damage to the laser sensor mounted on the car's roof, calling into question what role the driver might have to play in the event the technology fails.
9) If other technology fails, such as traffic signals that the cars rely on, there's no accounting for human traffic signals. In the event of an accident, for example, where a police officer is directing traffic, the cars cannot interpret human signals.
10) The reliance on technology could mean that over time, drivers are no longer equipped with the skills to operate cars. In the event of a technology glitch or recall, drivers might be helpless to get around, having been "out of practice" in the driving world for some time.
11) Full development of self-driving cars still raises a lot of questions and concerns on behalf of drivers, so it's unclear how full adoption of the technology might be.
12) Many individuals are nervous about handing over all the power to a computer, which could malfunction and put the driver in a more dangerous situation than if the driver were manning the vehicle himself or herself.
13) It's unclear how self-driving cars would maneuver through hazards like roadblocks or unique local driving laws. A good example is the difference between states regarding turning right on red. The computers could have difficulty identifying the different local and state rules with regard to the road.
14) The success of self-driving cars currently relies on accurate mapping systems through GPS. As anyone who has been advised to turn down a one-way street or been told by their GPS they were driving on a non-existent street can attest, GPS devices are not always accurate. There are security concerns about self-driving cars, too. Director of research for infotainment and advanced driver assistance systems at the research group known as IHS Automotive, Egil Juliussen, says that "Electronics systems in cars currently have no or very limited security measures."
15) The NHTSA remains skeptical of the technology behind self-driving cars, even calling for a ban on them at one point until further testing could be completed.
16) Since Google is currently at the helm of development for the cars, other auto manufacturers might sell fewer cars in the event that Google's version takes off.
17) The gasoline industry is likely to suffer because, taking the note of "new and improved" it's likely that the self-driving cars would be electric.
18) Personal injury lawyers may see a reduction in their earnings if self-driving cars truly are safer and reduce the number of accidents on the road.
19) Driver's ed courses would lose money and go out of business because there would be less of a need to educate people how to drive.
20) People who enjoy driving are unlikely to buy into the technology that means they no longer need to focus behind the wheel, so they are likely to keep their own vehicles rather than trading in for a self-driving vehicle.
As this brief article shows, there's a lot of promise and opportunity associated with self-driving cars, but there are also a lot of questions and concerns. The technology is still being developed and tested, so workarounds for some of the above-mentioned problems might be created as of yet, but the system is not perfect at present.
Self-driving cars may be a part of the future, but if they are successfully deployed across America's roadways, it will be a revolution not just for drivers and traffic patterns, but also for the transportation industry as a whole.

 

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Not me! The more driving control I have over my car, the better.

Now if only I could apply that control over all the other vehicles in my path to move aside so I could see better, that would be the kind of progress that would help me make progress too!