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>2016 Chevrolet SS + more Chevy's<
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03-03-2016, 10:48 AM
>2016 Chevrolet SS + more Chevy's<
2016 Chevrolet SS
By Sam Moses March 2, 2016
The Chevrolet SS is a full-size four-door sports sedan with one engine, a huge 6.2-liter V8. There’s really only one competitor to the SS, and it’s a worthy one, a Dodge Challenger with a 392 cubic-inch Hemi. There is also the 707-horsepower supercharged Challenger Hellcat, but that’s in a tire-smoking world of its own.
The SS is Chevrolet’s first rear-wheel-drive sedan since the 1996 Impala, which lives today as a front-wheel-drive car. But it’s not the Impala that the SS has evolved from, it’s the 2008 Pontiac G8 that was developed Down Under. GM sent engineers from Detroit there to work on that car.
In Australia, GM calls itself Holden. There, the throaty Commodore SS is seen as the last muscle car, prestigious and high profile on those long flat highways. Despite the lack of corners, and the low speed limits enforced around the cities by Big Brother cameras, the Australian-built cars have always handled better than the American-built ones (just as the Australian V8 Supercar Series blows NASCAR off the track when it comes to road course execution and excitement). The SS benefits from its Australian experience, mainly in the excellent balance from 52/48 weight distribution, and carefully developed multi-link rear suspension.
Another thing about the SS: it’s a cop car. It’s refined, and it has style, but a strip search will uncover a Chevrolet Caprice PPV (Police Patrol Vehicle). The Blues Brothers never had it so good.
With only the big V8 engine, the SS isn’t intended to be a big seller. Chevrolet appears to build it just because it can, and to keep its tradition alive. Also to keep enthusiasts happy (as if they couldn’t be happy with the stunning Corvette and dazzling Camaro SS). And perhaps to make the folks at Chevrolet happy, to see it here.
That V8 is a 415-horsepower version of the previous-generation Corvette LS3 engine (70 horsepower less than the Hemi engine in the Dodge Challenger). It comes with a solid 6-speed manual transmission (truly old school in a full-size sedan), or a 6-speed automatic that unfortunately isn’t up to the task. It accelerates from zero to sixty in 4.7 seconds, and sounds nice doing so, a burble at zero and bark at sixty. Beefy Brembo brakes, Magnetic Ride Control dampers, and 19-inch forged aluminum wheels with Z-rated tires are standard. Cops need that stuff.
The SS hasn’t been crash tested, because it is low volume. It gets an EPA-rated 17 miles per gallon Combined city and highway driving, with either the manual or automatic transmission; that’s 15/21 mpg City/Highway with manual, 14/21 mpg City/Highway with automatic. However, the manual avoids the $1300 gas guzzler tax, don’t ask us why.
Nice changes for 2016 include a revised front fascia with vertical ducts at the outer edges, LED front running lights, hood vents, alloy wheels with painted pockets, and standard navigation.
Model Lineup
The 2016 Chevrolet SS ($46,575) comes standard with leather upholstery, heated and ventilated front seats, dual-zone automatic climate control, remote entry and remote start, head-up display, Bose audio, eight-inch color touchscreen with Chevrolet MyLink, which does infotainment apps through a smartphone and 4G LTE connectivity that can become a WiFi hotspot for a monthly fee.
Safety features include a rearview camera, forward collision alert, lane departure warning, side blind-zone alert, and rear cross traffic alert, plus eight airbags, including knee bags for the driver and front passenger, and Automatic Parking Assist, even with the manual transmission. There are few options, other than a sunroof ($900) and full-size spare tire ($500).
Exterior
Although true to its character, the SS loses some distinction by looking throwbackish and less contemporary than its rivals. Although we wonder who they might be, so let’s say less contemporary than many other full-size sedans. However, when you describe its features, it certainly sounds contemporary.
The Chevy SS is low. It’s got some wedge to it. It’s got a tapered greenhouse with hints of teardrop. Its wheels are staggered. Angled HID headlamps. Still, it does look like it might be a muscle car. Mostly, it looks like a Chevrolet, with its big bow-tie grille.
Interior
Inside the cabin, the SS feels more like a cockpit than other Chevy models. It’s got all the right stuff. Ice blue lighting. Nice leather. The front sports seats are quite comfortable, with ample bolstering that’s nicely supportive.
Given the hydraulic damped suspension bushings, and rubber isolation in the rear, we expected the cabin to be quieter than it was. We became quite aware of road noise on a long highway trip.
Driving Impressions
We wouldn’t enter the Chevy SS in an Australian V8 Supercar race, but the Aussie and visiting Detroit engineers did a true-blue fair dinkum job in building a chassis that’s a cut above the standard. It’s not easy to get cornering balance out of a rear-wheel-drive car with a big heavy engine in front (although Cadillac engineers did it, without Australian help, in the CTS-V).
The third generation of Magnetic Ride Control suspension, standard on the SS, has much to do with this. There are three modes: Tour, Sport and Performance. Tour is a bit firm, but still does a good job of burying the bumps around town, so the casual city ride is comfortable. Sport mode not only stiffens the dampers, but also makes the steering quicker, enhancing an already excellent response. It’s firm and quick enough for the most spirited street driving. Performance mode is for track days.
We’re disappointed in the 6-speed automatic transmission, that’s lazy and delayed in Drive and still not quick or sharp enough in Sport mode. If only the automatic transmission were the brilliant GM-designed 8-speed automatic that’s in the Cadillac CTS-V. It must be a money thing. We wish it were an option.
The 6-speed manual gearbox is available at no extra cost, and it’s a better choice, but still not easy. We’re going to assume the clutch was adjusted correctly in our test car, where we found that the engagement for changing gears came high on the travel of the pedal, so quick shifts were challenging. It was difficult to shift smoothly and easy to stall. But at least the throw of the lever was short and smooth.
Final Word
If you want a 21st century muscle car, and you’re not a MoPar man, the Chevy SS is all there is. That’s not bad. But go for the manual transmission, and work with it. Stay true to the dream.
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By Sam Moses March 2, 2016
The Chevrolet SS is a full-size four-door sports sedan with one engine, a huge 6.2-liter V8. There’s really only one competitor to the SS, and it’s a worthy one, a Dodge Challenger with a 392 cubic-inch Hemi. There is also the 707-horsepower supercharged Challenger Hellcat, but that’s in a tire-smoking world of its own.
The SS is Chevrolet’s first rear-wheel-drive sedan since the 1996 Impala, which lives today as a front-wheel-drive car. But it’s not the Impala that the SS has evolved from, it’s the 2008 Pontiac G8 that was developed Down Under. GM sent engineers from Detroit there to work on that car.
In Australia, GM calls itself Holden. There, the throaty Commodore SS is seen as the last muscle car, prestigious and high profile on those long flat highways. Despite the lack of corners, and the low speed limits enforced around the cities by Big Brother cameras, the Australian-built cars have always handled better than the American-built ones (just as the Australian V8 Supercar Series blows NASCAR off the track when it comes to road course execution and excitement). The SS benefits from its Australian experience, mainly in the excellent balance from 52/48 weight distribution, and carefully developed multi-link rear suspension.
Another thing about the SS: it’s a cop car. It’s refined, and it has style, but a strip search will uncover a Chevrolet Caprice PPV (Police Patrol Vehicle). The Blues Brothers never had it so good.
With only the big V8 engine, the SS isn’t intended to be a big seller. Chevrolet appears to build it just because it can, and to keep its tradition alive. Also to keep enthusiasts happy (as if they couldn’t be happy with the stunning Corvette and dazzling Camaro SS). And perhaps to make the folks at Chevrolet happy, to see it here.
That V8 is a 415-horsepower version of the previous-generation Corvette LS3 engine (70 horsepower less than the Hemi engine in the Dodge Challenger). It comes with a solid 6-speed manual transmission (truly old school in a full-size sedan), or a 6-speed automatic that unfortunately isn’t up to the task. It accelerates from zero to sixty in 4.7 seconds, and sounds nice doing so, a burble at zero and bark at sixty. Beefy Brembo brakes, Magnetic Ride Control dampers, and 19-inch forged aluminum wheels with Z-rated tires are standard. Cops need that stuff.
The SS hasn’t been crash tested, because it is low volume. It gets an EPA-rated 17 miles per gallon Combined city and highway driving, with either the manual or automatic transmission; that’s 15/21 mpg City/Highway with manual, 14/21 mpg City/Highway with automatic. However, the manual avoids the $1300 gas guzzler tax, don’t ask us why.
Nice changes for 2016 include a revised front fascia with vertical ducts at the outer edges, LED front running lights, hood vents, alloy wheels with painted pockets, and standard navigation.
Model Lineup
The 2016 Chevrolet SS ($46,575) comes standard with leather upholstery, heated and ventilated front seats, dual-zone automatic climate control, remote entry and remote start, head-up display, Bose audio, eight-inch color touchscreen with Chevrolet MyLink, which does infotainment apps through a smartphone and 4G LTE connectivity that can become a WiFi hotspot for a monthly fee.
Safety features include a rearview camera, forward collision alert, lane departure warning, side blind-zone alert, and rear cross traffic alert, plus eight airbags, including knee bags for the driver and front passenger, and Automatic Parking Assist, even with the manual transmission. There are few options, other than a sunroof ($900) and full-size spare tire ($500).
Exterior
Although true to its character, the SS loses some distinction by looking throwbackish and less contemporary than its rivals. Although we wonder who they might be, so let’s say less contemporary than many other full-size sedans. However, when you describe its features, it certainly sounds contemporary.The Chevy SS is low. It’s got some wedge to it. It’s got a tapered greenhouse with hints of teardrop. Its wheels are staggered. Angled HID headlamps. Still, it does look like it might be a muscle car. Mostly, it looks like a Chevrolet, with its big bow-tie grille.
Interior
Inside the cabin, the SS feels more like a cockpit than other Chevy models. It’s got all the right stuff. Ice blue lighting. Nice leather. The front sports seats are quite comfortable, with ample bolstering that’s nicely supportive.Given the hydraulic damped suspension bushings, and rubber isolation in the rear, we expected the cabin to be quieter than it was. We became quite aware of road noise on a long highway trip.
Driving Impressions
We wouldn’t enter the Chevy SS in an Australian V8 Supercar race, but the Aussie and visiting Detroit engineers did a true-blue fair dinkum job in building a chassis that’s a cut above the standard. It’s not easy to get cornering balance out of a rear-wheel-drive car with a big heavy engine in front (although Cadillac engineers did it, without Australian help, in the CTS-V).
The third generation of Magnetic Ride Control suspension, standard on the SS, has much to do with this. There are three modes: Tour, Sport and Performance. Tour is a bit firm, but still does a good job of burying the bumps around town, so the casual city ride is comfortable. Sport mode not only stiffens the dampers, but also makes the steering quicker, enhancing an already excellent response. It’s firm and quick enough for the most spirited street driving. Performance mode is for track days.We’re disappointed in the 6-speed automatic transmission, that’s lazy and delayed in Drive and still not quick or sharp enough in Sport mode. If only the automatic transmission were the brilliant GM-designed 8-speed automatic that’s in the Cadillac CTS-V. It must be a money thing. We wish it were an option.
The 6-speed manual gearbox is available at no extra cost, and it’s a better choice, but still not easy. We’re going to assume the clutch was adjusted correctly in our test car, where we found that the engagement for changing gears came high on the travel of the pedal, so quick shifts were challenging. It was difficult to shift smoothly and easy to stall. But at least the throw of the lever was short and smooth.
Final Word
If you want a 21st century muscle car, and you’re not a MoPar man, the Chevy SS is all there is. That’s not bad. But go for the manual transmission, and work with it. Stay true to the dream.
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03-03-2016, 10:53 AM
>My Choice<
2016 Chevrolet Camaro
By Mitch McCullough 2016
The thing about the Camaro is that it also, for the first time in history, comes with a four-cylinder engine. It’s a turbocharged 2.0-liter making a civilized 275 horsepower while bringing 30 highway miles per gallon, never mind that that model is the one they call the chick’s car. It wasn’t that long ago that 275 horsepower was a muscle car. In fact, that was the power produced by the 5.7-liter V8 in the original 1967 Camaro.
The looks of the new 2016 Camaro don’t depart much from the 2010-2015 model, but it’s changed a lot underneath, as it’s slightly smaller, built on the platform of the Cadillac ATS. Even though it has more muscle than ever, the Camaro can’t be called a muscle car, because the description has a connotation of the bulk of yore. This Camaro boasts flexibility to match its power, with exceptional handling.
There is also a 3.6-liter V6 that makes 335 horsepower (compared to a mind-bending 140 horsepower from the inline-6 in 1967) and 284 pound-feet of torque to scoot the car to 60 mph in about five seconds, fast enough to challenge the V8 muscle car Camaro of recent past. It uses a 6-speed manual gearbox with rev matching, or an 8-speed automatic with paddle shifters.
And we haven’t even gotten to the Camaro SS with its Corvette engine, the LT1 V8 making 455 horsepower and an equal number of foot-pounds of torque. It’s formidable and sensational, with zero to 60 times of about four seconds.
A big reason for the superb handling of the new Camaro is its reduced size and weight: 2.3 inches shorter on a wheelbase that’s 1.6 inches less, and slimmer by up to 200 pounds. But the new chassis might mean just as much to the car’s feel, with engine rails, trunk floor and steering gear from the awesome Cadillac CTS-V.
As always, there is a tradeoff. Smaller exterior means smaller interior, felt in the trunk and back seat, which is fine if your passengers are backpacks. But if you stay in the front seat, the Camaro’s cabin has never been more comfortable, organized or detailed. The roof is one inch lower, but the headliner is carved out and the front seats are lower too, so no headroom is lost. A tall driver can strap on his helmet and take the Camaro SS for a track day.
Standard equipment on every 2016 Camaro is the Drive Mode Selector, which allows the driver to select the levels for the car’s steering, stability control, shift timing, and throttle response. Four-piston Italian Brembo brakes are standard, with 18-inch alloy wheels and Goodyear Eagle Sport tires.
Model Lineup
The 2016 Camaro comes with a choice of 2.0-liter four-cylinder turbo ($26,695) or V6 ($28,940). Camaro SS ($37,295) features a 455-horsepower V8.
Standard equipment includes power everything, cruise control and keyless entry, Bluetooth, six-speaker AM/FM/CD sound system, 7.0-inch color touchscreen, two USB ports and aux jack, Apple CarPlay and Android Auto, hardware for 4G LTE data, 18-inch wheels, and driving modes.
Exterior
The 2016 Camaro smoothes over and tones down some of the sharp edges of the previous generation. The latest curves are more subtle. Muscular haunches counter a tall nose, big intakes, and narrow grille. It looks menacing in black, which seems like the right temperament. From the side it’s striking and polished, especially the sweep of the rear roof pillar, however from some angles it can appear short and even stubby. The styling is sensitive to the point of view.
Interior
The black exterior can be complemented with an interior showing snatches of red, blue or yellow. Gone is the previous Camaro’s thrifty interior, replaced with better materials and fewer seams. Thanks to a dropped dashboard and console, the cabin feels fresh and cohesive, with digital gauges, big touchscreens and gimbaled air vents placed in a Star Wars-ish binnacle. In the V6, an exhaust note soundtrack is like music to the ears of the occupants.
Driving Impressions
The 2.0-liter four cylinder engine is quite powerful, with 275 horsepower and an even more impressive 295 pound-feet of torque, which is more torque than the V6 makes. It hasn’t been made available for testing yet, but with numbers like that, there should be little disappointment as long as the buyer doesn’t think it’s going to feel like a V8. Chevy says it will do zero to 60 in less than six seconds, which is quick if not neck snapping.
We have gotten good seat time in the 2016 Camaro with the 3.6-liter V6 making 335 horsepower and 284 pound-feet of torque, an engine that makes an exciting howl in the middle rev range. It almost sounds like a vintage Ferrari in there, before reverting to a more common V6 drone at high revs. The noise is enhanced, piped in from the engine bay and amplified.
Both transmissions are good. The standard rev-matching 6-speed manual or the paddle-shifting 8-speed automatic bring the power to the driver quickly.
The Cadillac-based chassis, suspension and steering deliver a superb ride with precise cornering, and great stability and tracking on the standard 18-inch wheels and tires, without needing to go for the optional 19s or 20s, or the suspension upgrades that come standard on upper models. Patchy roads and rough pavement don’t send the rear end all over the road. Specifically, the suspension is a double-pivot, control arm and strut design that lightens the nose and helps make the car nimble.
With the Drive Mode Selector, you can make the car jump like you want it to, with a menu that allows specific settings and individual combinations of steering, shifting, and throttle. In Sport it’s a happy pony, able to zip through tight switchbacks with precision and forget about the understeer of old, or even the understeer of last year.
In Tour mode the steering is heavier than Normal, but still responsive and quick.
The Camaro SS may be a throwback monster with its 6.2-liter V8, but it’s no beast to drive. With the standard 6-speed manual transmission it blips its downshifts smoothly and perfectly, and with the 8-speed automatic with paddle shifters, it shifts quick like a Formula 1 car. The Magnetic Ride Control adaptive dampers take out the roughness and instability, especially from the rear end. The standard 20-inch Goodyears grip like hot rubber out in farm country, making the SS feel like an overgrown sports car, able to blast to sixty in four seconds. The SS has a Track setting. Smiley face goes here.
Final Word
The all-new 2016 Camaro can be appreciated for many things, as the designers (styling) and engineers (powertrains) have nailed it, while the executives have delivered a great price, especially for the SS.
By Mitch McCullough 2016
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The thing about the Camaro is that it also, for the first time in history, comes with a four-cylinder engine. It’s a turbocharged 2.0-liter making a civilized 275 horsepower while bringing 30 highway miles per gallon, never mind that that model is the one they call the chick’s car. It wasn’t that long ago that 275 horsepower was a muscle car. In fact, that was the power produced by the 5.7-liter V8 in the original 1967 Camaro.
The looks of the new 2016 Camaro don’t depart much from the 2010-2015 model, but it’s changed a lot underneath, as it’s slightly smaller, built on the platform of the Cadillac ATS. Even though it has more muscle than ever, the Camaro can’t be called a muscle car, because the description has a connotation of the bulk of yore. This Camaro boasts flexibility to match its power, with exceptional handling.
There is also a 3.6-liter V6 that makes 335 horsepower (compared to a mind-bending 140 horsepower from the inline-6 in 1967) and 284 pound-feet of torque to scoot the car to 60 mph in about five seconds, fast enough to challenge the V8 muscle car Camaro of recent past. It uses a 6-speed manual gearbox with rev matching, or an 8-speed automatic with paddle shifters.
And we haven’t even gotten to the Camaro SS with its Corvette engine, the LT1 V8 making 455 horsepower and an equal number of foot-pounds of torque. It’s formidable and sensational, with zero to 60 times of about four seconds.
A big reason for the superb handling of the new Camaro is its reduced size and weight: 2.3 inches shorter on a wheelbase that’s 1.6 inches less, and slimmer by up to 200 pounds. But the new chassis might mean just as much to the car’s feel, with engine rails, trunk floor and steering gear from the awesome Cadillac CTS-V.
As always, there is a tradeoff. Smaller exterior means smaller interior, felt in the trunk and back seat, which is fine if your passengers are backpacks. But if you stay in the front seat, the Camaro’s cabin has never been more comfortable, organized or detailed. The roof is one inch lower, but the headliner is carved out and the front seats are lower too, so no headroom is lost. A tall driver can strap on his helmet and take the Camaro SS for a track day.
Standard equipment on every 2016 Camaro is the Drive Mode Selector, which allows the driver to select the levels for the car’s steering, stability control, shift timing, and throttle response. Four-piston Italian Brembo brakes are standard, with 18-inch alloy wheels and Goodyear Eagle Sport tires.
Model Lineup
The 2016 Camaro comes with a choice of 2.0-liter four-cylinder turbo ($26,695) or V6 ($28,940). Camaro SS ($37,295) features a 455-horsepower V8.
Standard equipment includes power everything, cruise control and keyless entry, Bluetooth, six-speaker AM/FM/CD sound system, 7.0-inch color touchscreen, two USB ports and aux jack, Apple CarPlay and Android Auto, hardware for 4G LTE data, 18-inch wheels, and driving modes.
Exterior
The 2016 Camaro smoothes over and tones down some of the sharp edges of the previous generation. The latest curves are more subtle. Muscular haunches counter a tall nose, big intakes, and narrow grille. It looks menacing in black, which seems like the right temperament. From the side it’s striking and polished, especially the sweep of the rear roof pillar, however from some angles it can appear short and even stubby. The styling is sensitive to the point of view.Interior
The black exterior can be complemented with an interior showing snatches of red, blue or yellow. Gone is the previous Camaro’s thrifty interior, replaced with better materials and fewer seams. Thanks to a dropped dashboard and console, the cabin feels fresh and cohesive, with digital gauges, big touchscreens and gimbaled air vents placed in a Star Wars-ish binnacle. In the V6, an exhaust note soundtrack is like music to the ears of the occupants.Driving Impressions
The 2.0-liter four cylinder engine is quite powerful, with 275 horsepower and an even more impressive 295 pound-feet of torque, which is more torque than the V6 makes. It hasn’t been made available for testing yet, but with numbers like that, there should be little disappointment as long as the buyer doesn’t think it’s going to feel like a V8. Chevy says it will do zero to 60 in less than six seconds, which is quick if not neck snapping.
We have gotten good seat time in the 2016 Camaro with the 3.6-liter V6 making 335 horsepower and 284 pound-feet of torque, an engine that makes an exciting howl in the middle rev range. It almost sounds like a vintage Ferrari in there, before reverting to a more common V6 drone at high revs. The noise is enhanced, piped in from the engine bay and amplified.Both transmissions are good. The standard rev-matching 6-speed manual or the paddle-shifting 8-speed automatic bring the power to the driver quickly.
The Cadillac-based chassis, suspension and steering deliver a superb ride with precise cornering, and great stability and tracking on the standard 18-inch wheels and tires, without needing to go for the optional 19s or 20s, or the suspension upgrades that come standard on upper models. Patchy roads and rough pavement don’t send the rear end all over the road. Specifically, the suspension is a double-pivot, control arm and strut design that lightens the nose and helps make the car nimble.
With the Drive Mode Selector, you can make the car jump like you want it to, with a menu that allows specific settings and individual combinations of steering, shifting, and throttle. In Sport it’s a happy pony, able to zip through tight switchbacks with precision and forget about the understeer of old, or even the understeer of last year.
In Tour mode the steering is heavier than Normal, but still responsive and quick.
The Camaro SS may be a throwback monster with its 6.2-liter V8, but it’s no beast to drive. With the standard 6-speed manual transmission it blips its downshifts smoothly and perfectly, and with the 8-speed automatic with paddle shifters, it shifts quick like a Formula 1 car. The Magnetic Ride Control adaptive dampers take out the roughness and instability, especially from the rear end. The standard 20-inch Goodyears grip like hot rubber out in farm country, making the SS feel like an overgrown sports car, able to blast to sixty in four seconds. The SS has a Track setting. Smiley face goes here.
Final Word
The all-new 2016 Camaro can be appreciated for many things, as the designers (styling) and engineers (powertrains) have nailed it, while the executives have delivered a great price, especially for the SS.
#3
03-03-2016, 11:10 AM
I do like the SS, its a bit pricey so i'd pick one up used personally. Not sure who wrote that article above but they're not too smart. Not sure why they're comparing a 4 door chevy to a 2 door mopar, did they forget about the charger? And i guess underneath it a caprice? They share the zeta platform but a caprice is longer and has a 6.0 L77 engine or a v6, no LS like the ss.
#4
03-03-2016, 11:18 AM
I do like the SS, its a bit pricey so i'd pick one up used personally. Not sure who wrote that article above but they're not too smart. Not sure why they're comparing a 4 door chevy to a 2 door mopar, did they forget about the charger? And i guess underneath it a caprice? They share the zeta platform but a caprice is longer and has a 6.0 L77 engine or a v6, no LS like the ss.
Hi Keane, I'd like to take the credit, but it wasn't me (lol)
#5
03-03-2016, 01:26 PM
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That's a great vibrant blue, right along with excellent wheels, on both the SS and new Camaro; sweet looking.
I just wish Chevy would've given the SS an actual name... "Chevrolet Commodore SS" would've sounded okay to me. Commodore, Corvette, Camaro, Caprice... seems to fit in with the others if you look at it that way.
I just wish Chevy would've given the SS an actual name... "Chevrolet Commodore SS" would've sounded okay to me. Commodore, Corvette, Camaro, Caprice... seems to fit in with the others if you look at it that way.
#6
03-03-2016, 03:53 PM
I find the SS to be a very unusual car, and I don't really see how it fits the lineup at all. Id like to know more about why they're offering it, what their goal is with it, and who their market is for it.
I think it's a nice car. The styling isnt really my taste, and is overall a little bland (especially compared to a more radical look like a new charger). But I think it would make a great daily driver /cruiser.
The main thing that gets me is the price. One of the local dealers has one in the showroom with a sticker on it of $55k (including some BS dealer options like window tint and nitrogen tires to drive the price up). As noted above though, even the base price isn't much below that.
If someone wants a rwd v8 sedan, you can get a 370 hp charger for low $30s, or a 485 hp charger scat pack for $40k. So it's not like they have some sort of special item that the competitors don't have.
I guess what confuses me most is why it seems to be such a specific offering. Why doesn't it replace one of the existing platforms (like a Malibu or Impala) and offer v6 and v8 options? It could also then be ordered with multiple options packages in case you didn't want all of the features. It seems to be very focused at one specific market.
If it's intended to be for rwd muscle car people, why not offer a higher performance package/engine and stripped of some of the fluff options? The ls3 is a great engine, but it's outdated now for brand new cars and really should be an LT variant.
If it's meant to be a luxury oriented car, why not offer more luxurious options and interior materials (ie make it the chevy version of the cts which starts about the same price, but can get up to $75k+ with options). Seems like they could add a lot of luxury items and still keep the car $5-10k cheaper cheaper than the equivalent cts.
It just seems like they're offering it because they're mandated to for some reason and they're not really pushing to sell many (which seems counterintuitive for a car company). I've only seen 2 or 3 on the roads ever. I see plenty more G8s and those haven't been made in years.
I think it's a nice car. The styling isnt really my taste, and is overall a little bland (especially compared to a more radical look like a new charger). But I think it would make a great daily driver /cruiser.
The main thing that gets me is the price. One of the local dealers has one in the showroom with a sticker on it of $55k (including some BS dealer options like window tint and nitrogen tires to drive the price up). As noted above though, even the base price isn't much below that.
If someone wants a rwd v8 sedan, you can get a 370 hp charger for low $30s, or a 485 hp charger scat pack for $40k. So it's not like they have some sort of special item that the competitors don't have.
I guess what confuses me most is why it seems to be such a specific offering. Why doesn't it replace one of the existing platforms (like a Malibu or Impala) and offer v6 and v8 options? It could also then be ordered with multiple options packages in case you didn't want all of the features. It seems to be very focused at one specific market.
If it's intended to be for rwd muscle car people, why not offer a higher performance package/engine and stripped of some of the fluff options? The ls3 is a great engine, but it's outdated now for brand new cars and really should be an LT variant.
If it's meant to be a luxury oriented car, why not offer more luxurious options and interior materials (ie make it the chevy version of the cts which starts about the same price, but can get up to $75k+ with options). Seems like they could add a lot of luxury items and still keep the car $5-10k cheaper cheaper than the equivalent cts.
It just seems like they're offering it because they're mandated to for some reason and they're not really pushing to sell many (which seems counterintuitive for a car company). I've only seen 2 or 3 on the roads ever. I see plenty more G8s and those haven't been made in years.
#7
03-03-2016, 04:13 PM
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Hi `Chad & Member's,
I think the below will give you some information on why they are producing it ?
I was going to try & condense the below links, but there's some good information contained within.
Get another cup of coffee or beverage & starting clicking
I think the below will give you some information on why they are producing it ?
I was going to try & condense the below links, but there's some good information contained within.
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May 19, 2015 - After driving the 2015 Chevrolet SS, we pen why the Chevrolet SS is the best ... During 2014, just 2,386 Chevrolet SS sedans found new homes, makingthem incredibly exclusive. .... Sure they'll sell them, but I don't think its a priority. ...Pricing all up for importing would possibly be around about the same as ...
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Jan 30, 2015 - At number four was the Chevy SS, with a 415hp LS3 V8, rear-wheel ...automakers to keep making great cars like this, you need to start… ... number of Australian Holdens have to be built for export, so really, we just get them because of that. Even GM's Mark Reuss admitted he didn't know how they'd sell it.
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Jan 27, 2014 - Review of 2016 Chevrolet SS. ... F-bodies for selling less than 300,000 units a year, but they import a Holden and sell fewer than 4,000 a year.
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Feb 25, 2016 - The Chevy SS was launched as Chevrolet's first rear-drive V8 sedan in 17 ... to build the 'Holden SS' in Adelaide and sell it alongside the imported ... A year earlier in 2016, Ford will end production of the final Falcon and ...
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Oct 31, 2014 - On paper, the Chevy SS was a hit. ... because it was simply a rebadged Holden Commodore imported from Australia. ... I wonder why they're not selling. ...That might make is possible to cut the price of an SS- or whatever they want to ... The 707hp Charger Hellcat will never sell in large numbers, but it gets ...
#8
03-03-2016, 09:30 PM
To my knowledge the main reason the SS is around is simply because its what's used in nascar and it has to be a production car with so many cars sold per year. Pretty sure chevy doesn't care how many of these cars they sell and its a limited production as is. They don't market it or advertise it, it think it simply exists because it needed to. I could be totally wrong, but i seem to remember reading this when the SS was coming out.
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03-04-2016, 08:00 AM
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If it's intended to be for rwd muscle car people, why not offer a higher performance package/engine and stripped of some of the fluff options? The ls3 is a great engine, but it's outdated now for brand new cars and really should be an LT variant.
If it's meant to be a luxury oriented car, why not offer more luxurious options and interior materials (ie make it the chevy version of the cts which starts about the same price, but can get up to $75k+ with options). Seems like they could add a lot of luxury items and still keep the car $5-10k cheaper cheaper than the equivalent cts.
If it's meant to be a luxury oriented car, why not offer more luxurious options and interior materials (ie make it the chevy version of the cts which starts about the same price, but can get up to $75k+ with options). Seems like they could add a lot of luxury items and still keep the car $5-10k cheaper cheaper than the equivalent cts.