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Comparison:2012 BMW 328i Sport vs. 2013 Cadillac ATS 2.0 Turbo

The Battle for the Small-Bore Sport Sedan Crown

</HGROUP>By Rory Jurnecka | Photos By Brian Vance | October 08, 2012

<META content="2012 BMW 328I Sport 2013 Cadillac ATS Turbo Front Three Quarters 2" itemprop="name"><META content="2012 BMW 328I Sport Front End" itemprop="name"><META content=http://image.motortrend.com/f/roadtests/sedans/1210_2013_bmw_328i_sport_vs_cadillac_ats_turbo/44086812/2012-BMW-328i-Sport-front-end.jpg itemprop="contentUrl"><META content="2012 BMW 328I Sport Rear Three Quarters" itemprop="name"><META content=http://image.motortrend.com/f/roadtests/sedans/1210_2013_bmw_328i_sport_vs_cadillac_ats_turbo/40331054/2012-BMW-328i-Sport-rear-three-quarters.jpg itemprop="contentUrl">See All 34 Photos

Vehicle specs (Base Model)
Engine2.0L L4
Power240 hp / 260 lb-ft
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MSRP$34,900

Seats5 adults
MPG23 City / 34 Hwy











<META content="2012 BMW 328I Sport Front End" itemprop="name"><META content=http://image.motortrend.com/f/roadtests/sedans/1210_2013_bmw_328i_sport_vs_cadillac_ats_turbo/44086812/2012-BMW-328i-Sport-front-end.jpg itemprop="contentUrl">The BMW 3 Series isn't just a car. As my cohort Jonny Lieberman likes to say, the 3 Series is a segment. Now, this isn't an attempt to stoke BMW's ego, or, as many of our readers would assume, bias towards the Bavarian brand. It's just the simple truth: When an automaker chooses to compete in the luxury sports sedan segment, it's benchmarking the 3 Series. No BMW has consistently won Motor Trend comparison tests like the 3 Series has, and for good reason. The 3 Series has come to define BMW's Ultimate Driving Machine mantra and embodies the purest qualities BMW stands for as a brand.Back in May, we hosted a sport sedan shoot-out and invited eight four-door sportboxes to duke it out. Everyone from Audi to Volvo came to play, and in the end, we said (and I quote), "This is not just a win for the 328i -- it's a massacre. ... there is no competition." Well, that was then. And then was before Cadillac had brought its new ATS to market.<META content="2012 BMW 328I Sport Rear Three Quarters" itemprop="name"><META content=http://image.motortrend.com/f/roadtests/sedans/1210_2013_bmw_328i_sport_vs_cadillac_ats_turbo/40331054/2012-BMW-328i-Sport-rear-three-quarters.jpg itemprop="contentUrl">Of course, Cadillac smartly realizes BMW rules the 3 Series segment, and looking over the spec sheet for the ATS, it's clear Cadillac engineers used BMW specs as they would a recipe for their grandmother's lasagna. The exterior dimensions -- length, width, and height -- are all within an inch of the 328i and the difference in curb weight is just 24 pounds (the heavier BMW has a sunroof while the ATS does not). The engine is 2.0 liters and turbocharged, just like the 328i. Output is also nearly identical, as you might expect by now: 272 hp for the ATS, 240 for the (cough, cough) underrated (cough, cough) BMW with 260 and 255 lb-ft of torque, respectively. Both cars are available with automatic gearboxes, but the Caddy gets six cogs to the BMW's eight. This being a sport sedan comparison, we decided on six-speed manuals for both cars. Wheels on both cars are 18 inches and suspension is strut front, multi-link rear on each, with anti-roll bars at both ends. Heck, even the base price of each car is an identical $35,795 with destination fees factored in.
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  • <META content="2012 BMW 328I Sport Rear Seats" itemprop="name"><META content=http://image.motortrend.com/f/roadtests/sedans/1210_2013_bmw_328i_sport_vs_cadillac_ats_turbo/40330994/2012-BMW-328i-Sport-rear-seats.jpg itemprop="contentUrl"><META content=http://image.motortrend.com/f/roadtests/sedans/1210_2013_bmw_328i_sport_vs_cadillac_ats_turbo/40330994+w177+h111+cr1+ar0/2012-BMW-328i-Sport-rear-seats.jpg itemprop="thumbnailUrl">
  • <META content="2013 Cadillac ATS Turbo Cockpit" itemprop="name"><META content=http://image.motortrend.com/f/roadtests/sedans/1210_2013_bmw_328i_sport_vs_cadillac_ats_turbo/40331057/2013-Cadillac-ATS-Turbo-cockpit.jpg itemprop="contentUrl"><META content=http://image.motortrend.com/f/roadtests/sedans/1210_2013_bmw_328i_sport_vs_cadillac_ats_turbo/40331057+w177+h111+cr1+ar0/2013-Cadillac-ATS-Turbo-cockpit.jpg itemprop="thumbnailUrl">
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  • <META content="2013 Cadillac ATS Turbo Driver Seat" itemprop="name"><META content=http://image.motortrend.com/f/roadtests/sedans/1210_2013_bmw_328i_sport_vs_cadillac_ats_turbo/40331063/2013-Cadillac-ATS-Turbo-driver-seat.jpg itemprop="contentUrl"><META content=http://image.motortrend.com/f/roadtests/sedans/1210_2013_bmw_328i_sport_vs_cadillac_ats_turbo/40331063+w177+h111+cr1+ar0/2013-Cadillac-ATS-Turbo-driver-seat.jpg itemprop="thumbnailUrl">
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  • <META content="2012 BMW 328I Sport Side In Motion" itemprop="name"><META content=http://image.motortrend.com/f/roadtests/sedans/1210_2013_bmw_328i_sport_vs_cadillac_ats_turbo/44086821/2012-BMW-328i-Sport-side-in-motion.jpg itemprop="contentUrl"><META content=http://image.motortrend.com/f/roadtests/sedans/1210_2013_bmw_328i_sport_vs_cadillac_ats_turbo/44086821+w177+h111+cr1+ar0/2012-BMW-328i-Sport-side-in-motion.jpg itemprop="thumbnailUrl">
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  • <META content="2012 BMW 328I Sport Side" itemprop="name"><META content=http://image.motortrend.com/f/roadtests/sedans/1210_2013_bmw_328i_sport_vs_cadillac_ats_turbo/44086827/2012-BMW-328i-Sport-side.jpg itemprop="contentUrl"><META content=http://image.motortrend.com/f/roadtests/sedans/1210_2013_bmw_328i_sport_vs_cadillac_ats_turbo/44086827+w177+h111+cr1+ar0/2012-BMW-328i-Sport-side.jpg itemprop="thumbnailUrl">

<CENTER><IFRAME height=253 src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/tq__8kTTbBA?list=PL8F0981B98726601A&hl=en_US" frameBorder=0 width=450 allowfullscreen=""></IFRAME></CENTER><CENTER></CENTER><CENTER> Member, great comparsion vid above EnJoy</CENTER>
<TABLE class=insettxt border=1 cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=5 width="100%"><STYLE type=text/css>.hdr {color:#ffffff;font:bold 16px verdana,arial,helvetica;background-color:#343434;} .hdr1 {color:#000000;font:bold 12px verdana,arial,helvetica;background-color:#aba9a9;} .hdr2 {color:#000000;font:12px verdana,arial,helvetica;background-color:#dddddd;} .hdr3 {color:#000000;font:12px verdana,arial,helvetica;background-color:#FFFFFF;}</STYLE><TBODY><TR class=hdr><TD></TD><TD>2012 BMW 328i </TD><TD>2013 Cadillac ATS 2.0T </TD></TR><TR class=hdr1><TD colSpan=4>POWERTRAIN/CHASSIS </TD></TR><TR class=hdr3><TD>DRIVETRAIN LAYOUT </TD><TD>Front engine, RWD </TD><TD>Front engine, RWD </TD></TR><TR class=hdr2><TD>ENGINE TYPE </TD><TD>Turbocharged I-4, alum block/head </TD><TD>Turbocharged I-4, alum block/head </TD></TR><TR class=hdr3><TD>VALVETRAIN </TD><TD>DOHC, 4 valves/cyl </TD><TD>DOHC, 4 valves/cyl </TD></TR><TR class=hdr2><TD>DISPLACEMENT </TD><TD>121.9 cu in/1997 cc </TD><TD>121.9 cu in/1998 cc </TD></TR><TR class=hdr3><TD>COMPRESSION RATIO </TD><TD>10.0:1 </TD><TD>9.5:1 </TD></TR><TR class=hdr2><TD>POWER (SAE NET) </TD><TD>240 hp @ 5000 rpm </TD><TD>272 hp @ 5500 rpm </TD></TR><TR class=hdr3><TD>TORQUE (SAE NET) </TD><TD>255 lb-ft @ 1250 rpm </TD><TD>260 lb-ft @ 1700 rpm </TD></TR><TR class=hdr2><TD>REDLINE </TD><TD>7000 rpm </TD><TD>7000 rpm </TD></TR><TR class=hdr3><TD>WEIGHT TO POWER </TD><TD>14.2 lb/hp </TD><TD>12.6 lb/hp </TD></TR><TR class=hdr2><TD>TRANSMISSION </TD><TD>6-speed manual </TD><TD>6-speed manual </TD></TR><TR class=hdr3><TD>AXLE/FINAL-DRIVE RATIO </TD><TD>3.91:1/2.65:1 </TD><TD>3.27:1/2.62:1 </TD></TR><TR class=hdr2><TD>SUSPENSION, FRONT; REAR </TD><TD>Struts, coil springs, adj shocks, anti-roll bar; multi-link, coil springs, adj shocks, anti-roll bar </TD><TD>Struts, coil springs, adj shocks, anti-roll bar; multi-link, coil springs, adj shocks, anti-roll bar </TD></TR><TR class=hdr3><TD>STEERING RATIO </TD><TD>15.0:1 </TD><TD>15.3:1 </TD></TR><TR class=hdr2><TD>TURNS LOCK-TO-LOCK </TD><TD>2.8 </TD><TD>2.5 </TD></TR><TR class=hdr3><TD>BRAKES, F;R </TD><TD>12.3-in vented disc; 11.8-in vented disc, ABS </TD><TD>12.6-in vented disc; 12.4-in vented disc, ABS </TD></TR><TR class=hdr2><TD>WHEELS </TD><TD>8.0 x 18-in, cast aluminum </TD><TD>8.0 x 18-in; 9.0 x 18-in, cast aluminum </TD></TR><TR class=hdr3><TD>TIRES </TD><TD>225/45R18 91Y
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</TD></TR><TR class=hdr1><TD colSpan=4>DIMENSIONS </TD></TR><TR class=hdr2><TD>WHEELBASE </TD><TD>110.6 in </TD><TD>109.3 in </TD></TR><TR class=hdr3><TD>TRACK, F/R </TD><TD>60.3/61.9 in </TD><TD>59.5/60.9 in </TD></TR><TR class=hdr2><TD>LENGTH x WIDTH x HEIGHT </TD><TD>182.5 x 71.3 x 56.3 in </TD><TD>182.8 x 71.1 x 55.9 in </TD></TR><TR class=hdr3><TD>TURNING CIRCLE </TD><TD>37.1 ft </TD><TD>36.0 ft </TD></TR><TR class=hdr2><TD>CURB WEIGHT </TD><TD>3409 lb </TD><TD>3433 lb </TD></TR><TR class=hdr3><TD>WEIGHT DIST., F/R </TD><TD>49/51 % </TD><TD>50/50 % </TD></TR><TR class=hdr2><TD>SEATING CAPACITY </TD><TD>5 </TD><TD>5 </TD></TR><TR class=hdr3><TD>HEADROOM, F/R </TD><TD>40.3/37.7 in </TD><TD>38.6/36.8 in </TD></TR><TR class=hdr2><TD>LEGROOM, F/R </TD><TD>42.0/35.1 in </TD><TD>42.5/33.5 in </TD></TR><TR class=hdr3><TD>SHOULDER ROOM, F/R </TD><TD>55.1/55.1 in </TD><TD>55.2/53.9 in </TD></TR><TR class=hdr2><TD>CARGO VOLUME </TD><TD>17.0 cu ft </TD><TD>10.2 cu ft </TD></TR><TR class=hdr1><TD colSpan=4>TEST DATA <TR class=hdr3><TD colSpan=4>ACCELERATION TO MPH <TR class=hdr2><TD>0-30 </TD><TD>1.8 sec </TD><TD>1.8 sec </TD></TR><TR class=hdr3><TD>0-40 </TD><TD>3.0 </TD><TD>3.0 </TD></TR><TR class=hdr2><TD>0-50 </TD><TD>4.1 </TD><TD>4.3 </TD></TR><TR class=hdr3><TD>0-60 </TD><TD>5.5 </TD><TD>6.0 </TD></TR><TR class=hdr2><TD>0-70 </TD><TD>7.4 </TD><TD>7.7 </TD></TR><TR class=hdr3><TD>0-80 </TD><TD>9.3 </TD><TD>9.8 </TD></TR><TR class=hdr2><TD>0-90 </TD><TD>11.6 </TD><TD>12.5 </TD></TR><TR class=hdr3><TD>0-100 </TD><TD>14.8 </TD><TD>15.4 </TD></TR><TR class=hdr2><TD>PASSING, 45-65 MPH </TD><TD>3.0 </TD><TD>3.2 </TD></TR><TR class=hdr3><TD>QUARTER MILE </TD><TD>14.1 sec @ 98.2 mph </TD><TD>14.4 sec @ 96.9 mph </TD></TR><TR class=hdr2><TD>BRAKING, 60-0 MPH </TD><TD>113 ft </TD><TD>108 ft </TD></TR><TR class=hdr3><TD>LATERAL ACCELERATION </TD><TD>0.89 g (avg) </TD><TD>0.90 g (avg) </TD></TR><TR class=hdr2><TD>MT FIGURE EIGHT </TD><TD>26.3 sec @ 0.70 g (avg) </TD><TD>26.3 sec @ 0.71 g (avg) </TD></TR><TR class=hdr3><TD>TOP-GEAR REVS @ 60 MPH </TD><TD>2150 rpm </TD><TD>2000 rpm </TD></TR><TR class=hdr1><TD colSpan=4>CONSUMER INFO <TR class=hdr2><TD>BASE PRICE </TD><TD>$35,795 </TD><TD>$35,795 </TD></TR><TR class=hdr3><TD>PRICE AS TESTED </TD><TD>$50,845 </TD><TD>$45,910 </TD></TR><TR class=hdr2><TD>STABILITY/TRACTION CONTROL </TD><TD>Yes/Yes </TD><TD>Yes/Yes </TD></TR><TR class=hdr3><TD>AIRBAGS </TD><TD>Dual front, front side, f/r curtain </TD><TD>Dual front, f/r side, f/r curtain, front knee </TD></TR><TR class=hdr2><TD>BASIC WARRANTY </TD><TD>4 yrs/50,000 miles </TD><TD>4 yrs/50,000 miles </TD></TR><TR class=hdr3><TD>POWERTRAIN WARRANTY </TD><TD>4 yrs/50,000 miles </TD><TD>6 yrs/70,000 miles </TD></TR><TR class=hdr2><TD>ROADSIDE ASSISTANCE </TD><TD>4 yrs/Unlimited </TD><TD>6 yrs/70,000 miles </TD></TR><TR class=hdr3><TD>FUEL CAPACITY </TD><TD>15.8 gal </TD><TD>16.00 gal </TD></TR><TR class=hdr2><TD>EPA CITY/HWY ECON </TD><TD>23/34 mpg </TD><TD>21/31 mpg </TD></TR><TR class=hdr3><TD>ENERGY CONS., CITY/HWY </TD><TD>147/99 kW-hrs/100 miles </TD><TD>160/190 kW-hrs/100 miles </TD></TR><TR class=hdr2><TD>CO2 EMISSIONS </TD><TD>0.72 lb/mile </TD><TD>0.79 lb/mile </TD></TR><TR class=hdr3><TD>RECOMMENDED FUEL </TD><TD>Unleaded premium </TD><TD>Unleaded premium </TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>
2012 BMW 328i Sport vs. 2013 Cadillac ATS 2.0 Turbo Comparison - Motor Trend
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I'm not a fan of either really, the caddy isn't a true caddy in my opinion. A four cylinder FWD cadillac... Caddy's should be RWD V8's. But based on the information i'd probably choose the caddy. It has more hp torque and has a better power to weight ratio.
 
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Old 10-15-2012 | 05:42 PM
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Hi `Keane, thanks for your post/thoughts...

I think GM Caddy Division did a good job on their first try to compete against a ride that has always won this type of comparsion...

In the test they said that the Caddy needed work on their six speed standard transmission...It's a ten minute vid, but I think it was a fair test with some great video work putting it 2gether...When you or member's have the time, I think it's worth the time to view...

I'm not in the market 4 one 4-Sure, but I would really like to test drive both of them..I know they are both small bore 4banger's, but they are turbo's + they will get over 30 MPG's + and with the price of fuel climbing I believe Caddy is going in the right direction...

Look 4ward to see other member's posts/comments...
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price of fuel climbing, so yes 4 cylinders would be better, except for the fact that they run on premium
 
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Originally Posted by Leprechaun93
price of fuel climbing, so yes 4 cylinders would be better, except for the fact that they run on premium
LoL `Keane, yes but Caddy's are Premium Rides ~> One must pay more to ride in luxury (LOL)....4-$ure (LOL)
 
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Id take the BMW is faster & imo more luxury than the caddy, for awhile i was looking at 335i but all the ones i found had wood grain interior & i hate woodgrain but the handeling & ride were amazing
 
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The ATS interior looks WAY better than the 328i's. Why do BMW interiors look like the 90's still?
 
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Have u ever been in a newer BMW??? There interiors in no way look like 90s interiors
 
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I would totally vote for BMW - that one week my fiance let me drive his 335i was a total blast (the 05 Monte was sold, Precious was recovering from the traumatic sprinkler incident and the Stang hadn't arrived yet). Extremely high quality interior. It is definitely a "drivers" car.
 
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Old 10-16-2012 | 05:56 AM
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Thanks Member's for your posts & comments...
I hope everyone enjoys seeing/knowing what's out there on our highways of life....Now, we just have to find a way to test drive all of them ~>


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