Yes, the Cobra and GT500 owners and lovers usually beat Camaros because they're boosted, now with a boosted Camaro against a boosted Mustang, it'll be a fairer race.

I remember seeing a video comparing the 2010 Mustang GT500 and the 2010 Camaro SS, the GT500 beat the SS in all aspects of speed, but it had a 115HP advantage too.

 

i like all of them.

im a chevy guy so the camaro comes first, then the challenger[oh my lordy], then the stang. although i like facelift is growing on me.

maybe in a year or so when i get the monte paid off, one of those cars will be in my price range. its seems like new cars loose half their value in the first 3 years. at least american. thats all good for us though.

 

 

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Ferrari 458 Italia

The latest masterpiece from Maranello 4-Sure

By Michael Taylor of AutoWeek
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The Ferrari 458 Italia is to make its public debut in Frankfurt in September.






Ferrari has drawn from the visual spirit of the Enzo to create a power-packed replacement for the F430 that shuns the rounded curves of its past V8s in favor of chiseled, unmistakable aggression.
Boasting a new 4.5-liter V8 engine, a seven-speed dual-clutch gearbox and a 202-mph top speed, Ferrari has revealed that the car — code-named F142 and long rumored to be named the F450 — will be called the 458 Italia. Following Ferrari lore, it stands for a 4.5-liter engine with eight cylinders, though why Ferrari thought people would forget it came from Italy is anybody's guess.
The Ferrari 458 Italia will be unveiled on Sept. 8 at the Frankfurt motor show. It has been heavily sculpted for aerodynamic efficiency and has picked up more racing technology than any Ferrari before.
Ferrari claims the engine has the highest specific output in the motoring world. It produces so much power from the all-alloy, direct-injection V8 that its specific output has smashed the old 100-hp-per-liter mark and is pushing beyond even high-output turbocharged cars.
Where Audi's twin-turbo RS6 V10 huffs and puffs its way to 114 hp per liter, Ferrari's high-compression V8 howls out 127 hp per liter.
The high-revving V8 has light internal parts and tiny piston skirts, resulting in low-rotation inertia, a 12.5:1 compression ratio and it rips out 570 hp at an astonishing 9,000 rpm.


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No Ferrari road car has ever revved higher and had a higher specific output.
It means that the 458 Italia will be ferociously fast, with Ferrari claiming that it will sprint to 62 mph in less than 3.5 seconds.
While advanced engine electronics are one key to the extra performance, it is also the first rear-mid-engine application of the direct-injection fuel system, which debuted on the front-mid-engine California, and it also runs Ferrari's now-traditional flat-plane crankshaft.
It will be one of the most flexible Ferraris in history, too, with 398 lb-ft of torque arriving at 6,000 rpm. While that sounds peaky, remember that it's only two-thirds of the way up the 458 Italia's rev range and that 319 of those pound-feet will be turning the ultralight flywheel from as little as 3,250 rpm.

Ferrari has clearly worked to produce an engine with a tremendous range of abilities, from record-setting specific outputs to enough torque to surge away from low engine speeds.
The direct fuel injection also helped with Ferrari's environmental challenges, producing a claimed 320 grams of CO2 per kilometer, even though it is faster and produces significantly more power than the 483-hp F430 or the 508-hp 430 Scuderia.
Ferrari learned much developing the seven-speed dual-clutch gearbox for the California, and it has had to learn more to make the unit fit into the 458 Italia's engine bay, behind the curvaceous hatch.
While the Scuderia sliced gearshift times down to 0.06 second, the dual-clutch unit is even faster and is so close to being a seamless shift, it's hardly worth bickering over the couple of wavelengths of caesium resonance. Its ratios are different from the California's, too, with a focus more on aggression than the philosophically softer convertible.
The E-Diff differential and the F1-Trac skid-control system have long been the flagship carryover technologies from Formula One, but the 458 Italia takes them even further.
Instead of using their own electronic control units to communicate, Ferrari has given the 458 Italia one ECU to control both systems, resulting in streamlined processing and communication.
Also in charge of the ABS system, it's an ECU that Ferrari claims gives the 458 Italia a 32 percent increase in longitudinal acceleration over the F430 out of corners--and the F430 was no slouch. Its control over braking is said to cut the stopping distance from 62 mph to just 107 feet.
Ferrari had felt, with some justification, that the suspension geometry of the F430 Scuderia was near perfection, and the 458 Italia is said to be a step forward from there. It's based on a double-wishbone front suspension and a multilink rear end, all bolted directly to the all-aluminum chassis. It's all been developed with heavy assistance by Michael Schumacher, who was even caught by spy photographers testing the car near the Nürburgring.
Ferrari has close ties to Alcoa, which has built a factory near Modena to produce basic chassis. The 458 Italia is based on lessons learned from both the F430 Scuderia and the Millechile (1,000 kilogram) concept car. It uses more-advanced bonding techniques than the F430 did, along with manufacturing processes more in line with the airplane industry.
While the 458 Italia was designed by Pininfarina, it is heavily influenced by lessons learned in the on-site, half-scale F1 wind tunnel. Ferrari even moved one of its key F1 aero specialists across to the GT program to get it right. The little winglets owe more than a visual link to F1, because they provide downforce and feed air through the lay-down radiators ahead of the front wheels.
It's been designed with enormous tumblehome, so the air curves around the cabin and runs over the integrated rear tail, while underneath, a flat floor enhances the effects of the rear diffuser to create 140 kg of downforce at 124 mph.
Inside, the 458 Italia will take the opportunity created by the more luxurious California to become the sportiest V8 in the family. Ferrari mysteriously says that the steering wheel and dashboard are all-new innovations in production cars and stem from Schumacher's input and experience of standard racing practices.
The 458 Italia will be built alongside the California on the air-conditioned, "upstairs" new production facility at Maranello, leaving the traditional Ferrari production line for the V12-powered cars, such as the 599 Fiorano and the 612 Scaglietti.
Though the line is currently only capable of producing 16 Californias per day, there are plans to lift that capacity soon, with improvements in foundry output believed to be the key.
What's in a name?
The trend toward slotting a name on the end of the traditional set of descriptive numbers has become the norm at Maranello.
It probably began with the 365 GTB/4, which was never officially christened "Daytona," even though that's what everybody called it.
The 512 Testa Rossa was the closest to starting it all, but there's been a flood in recent years. There was the 550 Maranello, the 360 Modena, the 612 Scaglietti, the F430 Scuderia and the F599 Fiorano.
Interestingly, some of the names stuck and some of the numbers stuck, but rarely for the same car. Most 550s get called "Maranello," most 360 Modenas are called "360s," the 599 Fiorano is commonly called a "599" and the 612 is most-often dubbed "612."
No hybrid?
Not yet, no. Although Ferrari was happy to let rumors grow that the 458 Italia would debut as a hybrid in Los Angeles later this year. And although it has applied for an all-wheel-drive gasoline-electric hybrid patent, there are no immediate plans for a hybrid version.
There are no test mules in hybrid mode and, to date, the only hybrid Ferrari is the F60 Formula One car, with its kinetic-energy-recovery system.
The only thing even remotely close to a hybrid Ferrari road car is the sole F430 mule at Maranello that runs on biofuel.
POWERTRAIN: 4.5-liter, 570-hp, 398-lb-ft, direct-injection V8; RWD; seven-speed dual-clutch sequential manual
0-62 MPH: Less than 3.5 sec

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I will have my sites on a 2011 Mustang in a few years. OR, big or, a Viper. And yes I'm 100% serious. I'd have to keep the Monte if I go that route though, which is not a bad thing at all. Depends how he's running and looking by then.

 

I think all of the cars being put out by American companies at the moment are awesome in terms of specs/looks/etc. Its awesome to see the grassroots cars coming back into play and making the car world exciting again.

 

All but Chrysler. lol

 

man for real? My car does 0-60 in 6.8 seconds on 89 grade fuel...or it did last year when i did my physics project & my monte only has 240hp...hmm something doesnt seem right there