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#11
Sorry. I meant most powerful naturally aspirated v6 in production...
#12
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2013 Scion FR-S Is Most Expensive Scion
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2013 Scion FR-S Is Most Expensive Scion
By <A id=disclaimer_popup href="http://www.insideline.com/staff/email-disclaimer.html">Anita Lienert, Correspondent | Published Mar 22, 2012
Just the Facts:
TORRANCE, California — The base 2013 Scion FR-S with a six-speed manual transmission starts at $24,930, making it the most expensive Scion in the lineup, but still squeaking under the $25,000 mark. The price includes a $730 destination charge.
The uplevel FR-S with a six-speed automatic transmission starts at $26,030. It goes on sale this spring.
The base 2013 Scion FR-S is $195 cheaper than the base 2012 Hyundai Genesis Coupe, but $1,935 more expensive than the base 2013 Ford Mustang V6. The 2012 Hyundai Genesis
Coupe 2.0T starts at $25,125, including an $875 destination charge. The base 2013 Ford Mustang V6 starts at $22,995, including a $795 destination charge.
The Subaru BRZ, the other so-called "Toyobaru twin," since the cars were jointly developed between Toyota and Subaru, has not been priced. But it is expected to start in the same ballpark as the FR-S.
The Scion FR-S is $4,625 more expensive than the 2012 Scion tC, which starts at $20,305, including shipping. The 2012 Scion xB starts at $17,760, while the 2012 Scion xD starts at $16,805. The 2012 Scion iQ is the least expensive car in the Scion lineup with a starting price of $16,725.
The rear-wheel-drive Scion FR-S is equipped with a 200-horsepower 2.0-liter flat-4 engine. Standard equipment includes 17-inch alloy wheels, FR-S badged floor mats, an eight speaker AM/FM/CD/USB 300-watt Pioneer audio system, HD Radio technology and Bluetooth. It also gets six standard airbags.
"Scion's goal was to create an affordable sports car that true driving enthusiasts could enjoy," said Jack Hollis, Scion vice president, in a statement. "We accomplished that goal with the FR-S starting under $25,000."
Inside Line says: Toyota earlier hinted that the FR-S would come in under $30K and it more than held to its word.
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2013 Scion FR-S Is Most Expensive Scion
By <A id=disclaimer_popup href="http://www.insideline.com/staff/email-disclaimer.html">Anita Lienert, Correspondent | Published Mar 22, 2012
Just the Facts:
- The base 2013 Scion FR-S with a six-speed manual transmission starts at $24,930, making it the most expensive Scion in the lineup, but still squeaking under the $25,000 mark.
- The uplevel FR-S with a six-speed automatic transmission starts at $26,030.
- The base 2013 Scion FR-S is $195 cheaper than the base 2012 Hyundai Genesis Coupe, but $1,935 more expensive than the base 2013 Ford Mustang V6.
TORRANCE, California — The base 2013 Scion FR-S with a six-speed manual transmission starts at $24,930, making it the most expensive Scion in the lineup, but still squeaking under the $25,000 mark. The price includes a $730 destination charge.
The uplevel FR-S with a six-speed automatic transmission starts at $26,030. It goes on sale this spring.
The base 2013 Scion FR-S is $195 cheaper than the base 2012 Hyundai Genesis Coupe, but $1,935 more expensive than the base 2013 Ford Mustang V6. The 2012 Hyundai Genesis
Coupe 2.0T starts at $25,125, including an $875 destination charge. The base 2013 Ford Mustang V6 starts at $22,995, including a $795 destination charge.
The Subaru BRZ, the other so-called "Toyobaru twin," since the cars were jointly developed between Toyota and Subaru, has not been priced. But it is expected to start in the same ballpark as the FR-S.
The Scion FR-S is $4,625 more expensive than the 2012 Scion tC, which starts at $20,305, including shipping. The 2012 Scion xB starts at $17,760, while the 2012 Scion xD starts at $16,805. The 2012 Scion iQ is the least expensive car in the Scion lineup with a starting price of $16,725.
The rear-wheel-drive Scion FR-S is equipped with a 200-horsepower 2.0-liter flat-4 engine. Standard equipment includes 17-inch alloy wheels, FR-S badged floor mats, an eight speaker AM/FM/CD/USB 300-watt Pioneer audio system, HD Radio technology and Bluetooth. It also gets six standard airbags.
"Scion's goal was to create an affordable sports car that true driving enthusiasts could enjoy," said Jack Hollis, Scion vice president, in a statement. "We accomplished that goal with the FR-S starting under $25,000."
Inside Line says: Toyota earlier hinted that the FR-S would come in under $30K and it more than held to its word.
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Grad Dreams: 2013 Scion FR-S
Written by Matthew C. Keegan // 03/26/2012
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Sexy sports car is decked out in Scion attire.
Toyota’s Scion subbrand has college students and grads like you in mind as you shop for your first new car. Scion was created to appeal to niche first-time car buyers, 20-something people who are at the start of their careers and not necessarily in a position to drive a Bimmer unless, of course, that first job happens to be on Wall Street.
Dream Car Arrives
Scion has enjoyed varying degrees of success with young buyers, but it has lacked the one model that is designed to captivate drivers both by its looks and its drive.
That all changes this spring when Toyota delivers the first FR-S models, a 2+2 sports car based on the Toyota 86 (eight-six) and also sold here as the Subaru BRZ. The FR-S is the product of a union between Toyota and Subaru, one forged in 2005 when Toyota bought a slice of Fuji Heavy Industries, Subaru’s parent.
Owning 16.5 percent of its one-time competitor allows Toyota to exploit the synergies of this relationship, outfitting the Scion with a 2.0-liter BOXER engine while also serving up its own technology with direct and port injection supplied by Toyota. This combination will help the FR-S make 200 horsepower at 7,000 rpm and 151 foot-pounds of torque at 6,600 rpm. Speed times haven’t been determined yet, but the 0-60 MPH website has posted the new Scion’s 0-60 MPH time at 5.9 seconds.
Naming Convention
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Where did the FR-S name come from? That’s simple — Front engine, Rear-drive, Sport is how Scion explains the name, making more sense than the current Scion models that include the tC, xB, xD and the recently introduced iQ. That iQ, by the way, is the world’s smallest four-seater and priced from $15,995 or $9,000 under the starting price of the Scion sports car. With five models in its line up, Scion believes that it has a broad swath of the first-time car buying market in mind, perhaps convincing a few Wall Street-bound grads that the FR-S is a worthy alternative to the BMW 3-Series.
Exterior and Interior
With all of the back story information shared, what will drivers get with the FR-S? On the outside, you’ll see a whole lot of attitude and for people familiar with the Toyota 2000GT, you’ll get a profile that takes its styling cues from that limited production model built from 1967 to 1970. More recent models that favor the FR-S are the Toyota Celica and the Toyota Supra, sport coupes that were last sold stateside in 2002 and 2005 respectively. The new car’s hood line is sleek and low, featuring a menacing face with its wide mouth, angular headlamps and aggressive front fenders that point up. From the rear, aerodynamic touches surround the performance dual exhaust system with LED tail lights offering a striking contrast.
Inside, the FR-S features a 2+2 seating configuration with a rear seat that folds flat. Sure, you can hold two people back there in a pinch, but you may find that the expanded storage capacity suits you and your best friend just fine.
The front sport bucket seats offer ample bolstering and are mounted very low. A large tachometer dominates the three-gauge instrument cluster reports Auto Trends, with digital and analog read outs offered. A programmable shift selector, FR-S badged floor mats and a leather-trimmed steering wheel with tilt and telescopic capabilities is standard.
You’ll also enjoy a premium sound system with the Scion FR-S, a 300-watt Pioneer unit that coms with eight speakers and offers HD Radio technology. Bluetooth connectivity is standard as is streaming audio capability.
Safety and Warranties
Your safety is important to Scion and every FR-S comes equipped with six airbags, traction control, stability control, electronic brake-force distribution, brake assist and four-wheel anti-lock brakes. A 3-year/36,000-mile bumper to bumper warranty is standard and every Scion now offers free maintenance for the first two years of ownership or 25,000 miles driven, whichever comes first. Not bad especially if you’re making your first car payments to go with student loan payments. A powertrain warranty, corrosion coverage and a roadside assistance plan are also offered.
Will you spring for a Scion FR-S or any new car for that matter? If
Written by Matthew C. Keegan // 03/26/2012
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Sexy sports car is decked out in Scion attire.
Toyota’s Scion subbrand has college students and grads like you in mind as you shop for your first new car. Scion was created to appeal to niche first-time car buyers, 20-something people who are at the start of their careers and not necessarily in a position to drive a Bimmer unless, of course, that first job happens to be on Wall Street.
Dream Car Arrives
Scion has enjoyed varying degrees of success with young buyers, but it has lacked the one model that is designed to captivate drivers both by its looks and its drive.
That all changes this spring when Toyota delivers the first FR-S models, a 2+2 sports car based on the Toyota 86 (eight-six) and also sold here as the Subaru BRZ. The FR-S is the product of a union between Toyota and Subaru, one forged in 2005 when Toyota bought a slice of Fuji Heavy Industries, Subaru’s parent.
Owning 16.5 percent of its one-time competitor allows Toyota to exploit the synergies of this relationship, outfitting the Scion with a 2.0-liter BOXER engine while also serving up its own technology with direct and port injection supplied by Toyota. This combination will help the FR-S make 200 horsepower at 7,000 rpm and 151 foot-pounds of torque at 6,600 rpm. Speed times haven’t been determined yet, but the 0-60 MPH website has posted the new Scion’s 0-60 MPH time at 5.9 seconds.
Naming Convention
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- Arrives Spring 2012
- Priced from $24,200
- Standard BOXER engine with direct injection
- Twin to the Subaru BRZ
- 2+2 seating
- One of five Scion models now available
Where did the FR-S name come from? That’s simple — Front engine, Rear-drive, Sport is how Scion explains the name, making more sense than the current Scion models that include the tC, xB, xD and the recently introduced iQ. That iQ, by the way, is the world’s smallest four-seater and priced from $15,995 or $9,000 under the starting price of the Scion sports car. With five models in its line up, Scion believes that it has a broad swath of the first-time car buying market in mind, perhaps convincing a few Wall Street-bound grads that the FR-S is a worthy alternative to the BMW 3-Series.
Exterior and Interior
With all of the back story information shared, what will drivers get with the FR-S? On the outside, you’ll see a whole lot of attitude and for people familiar with the Toyota 2000GT, you’ll get a profile that takes its styling cues from that limited production model built from 1967 to 1970. More recent models that favor the FR-S are the Toyota Celica and the Toyota Supra, sport coupes that were last sold stateside in 2002 and 2005 respectively. The new car’s hood line is sleek and low, featuring a menacing face with its wide mouth, angular headlamps and aggressive front fenders that point up. From the rear, aerodynamic touches surround the performance dual exhaust system with LED tail lights offering a striking contrast.
Inside, the FR-S features a 2+2 seating configuration with a rear seat that folds flat. Sure, you can hold two people back there in a pinch, but you may find that the expanded storage capacity suits you and your best friend just fine.
The front sport bucket seats offer ample bolstering and are mounted very low. A large tachometer dominates the three-gauge instrument cluster reports Auto Trends, with digital and analog read outs offered. A programmable shift selector, FR-S badged floor mats and a leather-trimmed steering wheel with tilt and telescopic capabilities is standard.
You’ll also enjoy a premium sound system with the Scion FR-S, a 300-watt Pioneer unit that coms with eight speakers and offers HD Radio technology. Bluetooth connectivity is standard as is streaming audio capability.
Safety and Warranties
Your safety is important to Scion and every FR-S comes equipped with six airbags, traction control, stability control, electronic brake-force distribution, brake assist and four-wheel anti-lock brakes. A 3-year/36,000-mile bumper to bumper warranty is standard and every Scion now offers free maintenance for the first two years of ownership or 25,000 miles driven, whichever comes first. Not bad especially if you’re making your first car payments to go with student loan payments. A powertrain warranty, corrosion coverage and a roadside assistance plan are also offered.
Will you spring for a Scion FR-S or any new car for that matter? If
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I was just about to post about the Scion Space
The subie will probably be around $27, 28k since it will be an "upgraded" version of the Scion.
The Scion at $24k is such a great deal though!!
The subie will probably be around $27, 28k since it will be an "upgraded" version of the Scion.
The Scion at $24k is such a great deal though!!
#15
Hi Mike, the more I read about them The more I like what they are offering 4-Sure...I really hope I get the chance to drive one when they arrive at the dealership...
I think they have a winner `if a person is in2 a fun handling RWD ride + decent performance/MPG's/Braking. I also like that it has tele/tilt steering...
I also want to drive the V6 Mustang stick to compare them.
So much 2 look 4ward to in the automotive market...Now, it just take $'s We sure do have a lot of choices 4-Sure...
I'm EXCITED....Ok, back 2 my dreams
I think they have a winner `if a person is in2 a fun handling RWD ride + decent performance/MPG's/Braking. I also like that it has tele/tilt steering...
I also want to drive the V6 Mustang stick to compare them.
So much 2 look 4ward to in the automotive market...Now, it just take $'s We sure do have a lot of choices 4-Sure...
I'm EXCITED....Ok, back 2 my dreams
#17
WoW `Mike, that's a great comparsion between the sizes...
The Mustang looks like a giant 4-Sure...I thought I had seen that pic, but couldn't find it....
Thanks for posting....4-Sure I think they are going to sell & be a new fun ride....You also have some super roads in your state that would be awesome to drive 4-Real...
I want one 4 a daily driver & a 4th Gen with a Monster V8 in my dream garage 4 special trips...(That would be the best of both worlds to me) + the BeachBumVan 4 the beach & surf boards "2 dare 2 dream in `SpaceVision" Time now 4 me to go dream
The Mustang looks like a giant 4-Sure...I thought I had seen that pic, but couldn't find it....
Thanks for posting....4-Sure I think they are going to sell & be a new fun ride....You also have some super roads in your state that would be awesome to drive 4-Real...
I want one 4 a daily driver & a 4th Gen with a Monster V8 in my dream garage 4 special trips...(That would be the best of both worlds to me) + the BeachBumVan 4 the beach & surf boards "2 dare 2 dream in `SpaceVision" Time now 4 me to go dream
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#18
I've thought for a while now that the mustang is a little corpulent. Nice to see that the Miata will have some competition from Toyota/Subaru/Scion in the new AE86/BRZ/FRS.
I'd love to get a test drive on one of these, but with such low production numbers for the first year that seems unlikely.
I'd love to get a test drive on one of these, but with such low production numbers for the first year that seems unlikely.
#19
With such low production numbers, I actually see dealers trying to mark them up too much, which will sway buyers, which should allow us to be able to test drive
#20
Really awesome pic!
Size itself does not slow a car down or hurt handling. Weight does. And where weight is located. However, increased wheelbase, both length and width improve handling (assuming this doesn't comprimise weight)...
Size itself does not slow a car down or hurt handling. Weight does. And where weight is located. However, increased wheelbase, both length and width improve handling (assuming this doesn't comprimise weight)...