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Old 05-13-2011, 12:39 AM
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Question how can i tell the difference between 83-87 monte carlo s. PLEASE PLEASE HELP

I just purchased a monte carlo ss. Title says 86, but my neighbor ( lowrider builder) says its 83 according to the taillights. also says that the dash is not an ss and says the doors are from an ls. is the title suppose to say ss?? How can i chek what is true and false.?? Please. hElp. thanks for ur time n help. lictures coming soon
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Old 05-13-2011, 04:09 AM
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Fourth generationFourth generationProduction1981–1988AssemblyArlington, Texas
Pontiac, MichiganBody style2-door coupeLayoutFR layoutPlatformA-body (1981)
G-body (1982–1988)Engine3.8 L (229 CID) Chevrolet 90-degree V6
3.8 L (231 CID) Buick V6
4.3 L (262 CID) Chevrolet 90-degree V6
4.4 L (267 CID) Small-Block
5.0 L (305 CID) Small-Block V8
5.7 L (350 CID) LF9
diesel V8Transmission3-speed TH-350 4-speed 200-4Rautomatic Or Saginaw Standard For Mexican VersionWheelbase108.0 in (2,743.2 mm)Length200.4 in (5,090.2 mm) (LS)
202.4 in (5,141 mm) (SS)
Width71.8 in (1,823.7 mm)Height54.4 in (1,381.8 mm) (LS)
54.9 in (1,394.5 mm) (SS)
Curb weight3,212 pounds (1,457 kg) (LS)
3,239 pounds (1,469 kg) (SS)
RelatedBuick Regal
Oldsmobile Cutlass Supreme
Pontiac Grand Prix
[edit] 1981

The body was restyled with the other GM mid-size formal coupes (Oldsmobile Cutlass Supreme, Pontiac Grand Prix, Buick Regal). It featured a smoother profile than the previous models and new vertical taillights similar to the 1973-1977 models. Engine offerings were carried over, including the standard 229 CID Chevrolet V6 (231 CID Buick V6 in California) an optional 267 CID V8 (not available in California), a 305 CID V8 in the base and Landau models, and a turbocharged 170 hp (130 kW) 231 CID Buick V6 in the Monte Carlo Turbo. There were a total of 3,027 Monte Carlo Turbos for 1981. This would make the Monte Carlo Turbo one of the rarest Monte Carlo's built, even rarer than the 1987 Monte Carlo SS Aerocoupe. The Monte Carlo Turbo appeared slightly different than other Monte Carlos that year because in addition to the turbo motor it also was equipped with a small hood scoop on the left side of the hood. It also had Turbo 3.8 badges with Chevrolet bowtie on the sides of the hood scoop, on the trunk lid, and on the right side of the dash. An automatic transmission, power steering and power front disc brakes were standard equipment. While this car was considered by some to be much better looking (and appeared more aerodynamic) than its Buick Regal, Pontiac Grand Prix, and Olds Cutlass cousins, only one team tried to make a go of it in NASCAR cup racing. While the big Monte Carlo was the dominant body style in the late 1970s, winning 30 or so races, the downsized (and cleaned-up) 1981 body would only take three checked flags in the 1981 and 1982 seasons when it was run.
[edit] 1982

Only mild revisions were made on the 1982 Monte Carlo. All engines, except for the turbocharged 231 CID V6, which was discontinued along with the Monte Carlo Turbo model, were carried over from 1981. New for 1982 were the additions of a 260 CID V6 and an Oldsmobile 350 CID V8, both of which were diesel engines. With the introduction of GM's new mid-size platform that saw the introduction of the Buick Century, Chevrolet Celebrity, Oldsmobile Cutlass Ciera and Pontiac 6000, the chassis designations were shuffled up. The new mid-size cars were designated as A-body cars, whereas the cars previously designated as A-bodies were now called G-bodies. A black exterior was not offered in 1982 and also not available in 1982 for the first time in Monte Carlo history was a sportier interior option with Strato bucket seats and console, as only the standard notchback bench or optional 55/45 bench were offered this year.
[edit] 1983

1983-1986 Chevrolet Monte Carlo SS

Receiving only minor updates, the '83 Monte Carlo gained a revised grille and interior trim patters. The standard engine continued to be the 229 in³ V6, and the 165 hp 305 in³ V8 was optional. The Super Sport Package, Z65 was once again made an option in 1983. The Monte Carlo SS was reintroduced in 1983, following twelve years of being discontinued. One of the last carbureted, rear-wheel drive ‘muscle cars', the Monte Carlo SS featured European body color-coding, a new front fascia, a rear spoiler and a V8.
[edit] 1984

The SS was a hit not only in the car-buying public, (starving for some power after the hefty emissions regulations of the late 1970s) but also in NASCAR competition, where it continued to be a winning body style after the 1984 season successes. Production picked up, and 112,730 sport coupes were sold as 1984 year model coupes. An additional 24,050 had the SS option (with an 180 hp (130 kW) 305 V8 that saw a 5 hp (3.7 kW) boost from the previous year), having an asking price of US$10,700. The Monte Carlo SS was available with Strato bucket seats and floor console as extra-cost options for the first time in place of the standard split bench seat with armrest (the Strato buckets also returned as an option on the regular Monte after a two-year absence). The regular Monte Carlo came standard with a 125 hp (93 kW) 229 CID V6 (231 CID V6 for California) and a 165 hp (123 kW) 305 V8 was optional. Available for the last year in a base Monte Carlo was the 350 CID diesel engine, and there were only 168 manufactured. All engines for 1984 got the three-speed automatic transmission with the exception of three SSs at the end of the 1984 production run that received the Turbo Hydramatic 200-R4 transmission with overdrive.
In 1984, there were a limited number of Monte Carlo SSs made in Mexico, for Mexico sale. The differences are many in the Mexican to US/Canadian SSs. There was no rear spoiler. The rims are 14" checker style, an option on the base Monte Carlos in the US. The side mirrors are different style and black. The interior is that of a Grand Prix, in blue. The engine is a 350, 265 hp (198 kW) (unconfirmed) and 350 lb·ft (475 N·m) of torque (unconfirmed), and got a 4-speed manual with Hurst shifter. Additional Information about the Mexican SS
[edit] 1985

T-tops were re-introduced (discontinued after the 1982 model year), and additional SS colors (Black, maroon and silver in addition to white), pinstriping, and options were made available. The (later to be highly sought after) medium blue ("gun metal") color for the SS was dropped. A four-speed automatic overdrive transmission, the Turbo Hydramatic 200-R4, with a revised sport rear axle ratio containing 3.73:1 gears became standard on the SS. Gone for good were the 229 CID V6 and 350 CID V8 diesel engines. Introduced in place of the 229 CID V6 was a 262 CID (4.3 L) V6 (RPO LB4) that was fuel-injected with throttle-body fuel injection. The V-8's were fitted with computer controlled quadrajet carburetors.
The 1985 Chevrolet Monte Carlo, Chevy's rear-wheel-drive personal-luxury car, got more power, but for the first time since 1981, no diesel engine was offered in the Monte Carlo..
In the 1985 Chevrolet Monte Carlo base model, the previously standard 3.8 L Chevy V-6 gave way to a larger 4.3 L V-6 with throttle-body fuel injection. That brought along 20 extra horsepower, for a new total of 130.
The optional 5.0 L V8 likewise gained some ponies, via a jump in compression ratio. It jumped from 150 horsepower to 165. The High Output 5.0 L V8 in the 1985 Chevrolet Monte Carlo SS remained at 180 horsepower.
The V-6 and base V8 could be backed by either a three- or four-speed automatic transmission, but the H.O. V8 in the SS came only with the four-speed this year. Though the base coupe carried on visually unchanged, the SS was a different story. Previously offered only in white or dark blue metallic, color choices were expanded to include silver, maroon, and black. "Removable glass roof panels" (T-tops) came on board as a midyear option.
Despite its aging design, nearly 120,000 Monte Carlos found eager buyers in 1985. Though the total was down somewhat from 1984, the SS model saw sales climb from 24,050 to 35,484, a sure sign that performance was making a comeback. The 1985 monte carlo ss also came stock with a 35 millimeter sway bar which added extra support for the high performance rear end.
Color choices for the 1985 Chevy Monte Carlo SS expanded from two to five, including this maroon hue.
[edit] 1986

For 1986, there were four distinct body styles available. The base model Sport Coupe was still available with the same general body panels that it had since 1981, but featured new "aero" side mirrors similar to those on Camaros and Chevrolet Corvette of the 1980s . New for the 1986 model year was a Luxury Sport model that had a revised front fascia, new "aero" side mirrors, and an updated sleek-looking rear fascia. The LS front fascia included "Euro" headlamps with removable bulbs in a glass composite headlamp housing, versus the smaller sealed beam glass headlights of previous years. The rear bumper of the LS no longer had a "notch" between the bumper and trunk, and the taillights wrapped around so that they were visible from the sides of the car. The Super Sport model for 1986 incorporated the "aero" mirrors, yet still utilized the prior year's styling for the rear bumper.
Also new this year was the Aerocoupe model. The Aerocoupe was created by modifications to the Super Sport body, including a more deeply sloped rear window and a shorter trunk lid sporting a spoiler that lay more flat than previous Super Sports. Only 200 Aerocoupes were sold to the public, which happened to be the exact number NASCAR officials required for road model features to be incorporated into the racing cars. 1986 Monte Carlo SS Aerocoupe Registry & Information
[edit] 1987

In 1987, Chevrolet eliminated the Sport Coupe version of the Monte Carlo, leaving the LS, SS, and Aerocoupe. The Super Sport incorporated the "smoothed" rear bumper and tail lamps first introduced on the 1986 Luxury Sport. The Aerocoupe made up 6,052 of the 39,251 total Super Sports that were produced that year. 39,794 Luxury Sports were produced in 1987.
[edit] 1988

1987–1988 Monte Carlo LS

This was the last year for the fourth-generation Monte Carlo. The 1988 models were actually built in late 1987, with only 16,204 SSs made for an asking price of US$14,320. Appearance and mechanicals were similar to the 1987 model. The SS model came from the factory with 180 hp (130 kW). The 1988 model only came with the lay-down style spoiler, unlike the 1987 model, which came with either the lay-down or stand-up type spoiler. The Aerocoupe did not return, as Chevrolet had unveiled plans to produce the Lumina and race that body style in NASCAR. The new Lumina body style was much more aerodynamic and negated the need for a "sleeker" version of the Monte Carlo SS. The Lumina coupe was introduced as a 1990 model to replace the Monte Carlo. Total production numbers for the final year of the rear-wheel drive Monte Carlo was 30,174 — almost half of the 1987 numbers.
The final G-body Monte Carlo - a silver SS coupe — was produced on December 12, 1987. Total SS production for '88 was 16,204.
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A: rule #1 when buying a car make sure vin and tittle match

Make sure the 8th digit in the VIN is a "G" if it is an "H" you do not have a ss

Check the trunk lid sticker and make sure the following codes are present, also make sure the VIN on this sticker matches the VIN on your car and the VIN on the driver's door. B4V L69 F41

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"Masters of Information" I tell ya! Ask and ye shall receive.
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Originally Posted by RocknSS04 View Post
"Masters of Information" I tell ya! Ask and ye shall receive.

I swear its like these guys and gals know about monte carlo's

Hope they were able to help you!
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hey sorry man, that comment from johnnygold23 was uncalled for yesterday, my buddy was messing around on here yesterday and posted that, it ended up getting that account banned for life haha... but yeah that kid drives a '98 based out civic hatch and thinks its the fastest thing on the streets, even tho my stock '03 ls smokes him all the time lol
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Old 12-29-2011, 05:41 PM
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Originally Posted by RocknSS04 View Post
"Masters of Information" I tell ya! Ask and ye shall receive.
holly shet long time no see!...

Edit: looking at your post you have been around i guess i just havn't seen you post much

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Welcome to the MCF. Most parts from 81 thru 88 will bolt on the car. The appearance may be different. Now a days it is easy to find a Monte that is a mismash of 81-88 parts and even a few from 78-80. As long as your vin matches the title you should be ok. The numbers on the tail lights used to be a good way to tell the year of a car when the tail lights changed every year. But in reality it is the year the casting was made.
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