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Picks/Talladega/Sun.Afternoon
The Poll
After NASCAR screwed so many people at Richmond, who will be the next driver to get screwed out of a win? Points, Intro, and Congratulatory Remarks Richmond and Segment 1 are now being put to pasture. First, lets congratulate Silverfish33, Hunter, for wrapping up a terrible segment with a race win at Richmond. That's just the momentum booster he needs going into Talladega!!! Also, congratulations to JuniorCar Brent, who won Segment 1 and will continue to hold the overall lead. Here are the overall points heading into Talladega. 1) JuniorCar 966 Winner 2) carlm54stl 950 -16 3) butch049 945 -21 4) montecarlo3831 937 -29 5) RocknSS04 922 -44 6) bblackstone 921 -45 7) zJerry 912 -54 8) Cowboy6622 910 -56 9) SupplySgt 904 -62 10) lougreen03 886 -80 11) 03JGMonte 885 -81 12) 02 Earnhardt 866 -100 13) 77GP 851 -115 13) Leprechaun93 851 -115 15) 01 Monte SS 840 -126 16) silverfish 739 17) SuperSportSteve 685 18) STUMPMI 649 Defending Winner: lougreen03 Intro to Segment 2 This may be tricky to understand if you're a first year player, but we will still keep an overall points tally. However, a new set of poitns will start. From this race forward, we will have two sets of points, overall from Daytona until now, and Segment 2, Talladega until the July race in Daytona will be a separate set of points. This segment will be tough to win. It starts and ends on a restricter plate track. It features a road course, a repaved Michigan which is seeing high corner speeds and straightaway speeds near 210-215 mph in tire testing, a repaved Pocono with higher corner and straightaway speeds, plus a few historic race tracks such as Charlotte and Dover, plus the boring cookie cutter of Kentucky speedway. This Segment has a little bit of everything... except a short track. Heck, we even have a non points race to play with. This week in Talladega Lots of things are different this year. The track is getting broken in and loosing grip. NASCAR has made many efforts to break up the tandem drafting. The pack is back, and the fans are happy. Yet at the same time, cautions are down, and big wrecks are what we expect out of Talladega. But if we think back to Datyona, there were several points where there was potential for a 20 car crash, yet the drivers are very professional and get through these incidents making it look easy. I think we will see pack race, but we may not see a big one. Also, in Daytona, we saw several strong cars dominate the race. It was one of the best Daytona 500s in the modern era, and I believe hte best since the inception of the COT. And I'm not expecting any less out of this new COT. I think we will have a fast race, with lots of passing, lots of good racing, few cautions, and a lot of cars contending at the end. The sustained high RPM's make take a toll here this weekend. We saw Clint Bowyer lose an engine in Daytona, and Jeff Gordon and Hendrick of all people had issues. I would take careful consideration of who has the best engine program when we go to Talladega. But just in case there is a big one, I may take some cars that are going to ride in the back and try to come through at the end just to be safe. It is hard to find a safe place to be in Talladega. We've seen the leader crash, we've seen teh guys who lay back and make a charge crash. There just isn't a sure way to run Talladega. Hendrick Motorsports Here we go, gentlemen. Another track where two winless streaks could end. Could Dale Earnhardt, Jr., in the track where he is the most popular, in a state that prides itself on being the heart of Dixie, be the track where Dale Earnhardt Jr breaks that winless streak and gets Rick Hendrick that 200th win? It would certainly be special..... Jeff Gordon, Jimmie Johnson, and Kasey Kahne could all break their luck and run well too. I look for all the Hendrick cars to be strong. However, engine issues took out JEff Gordon in Daytona. Will this be a factor at Talladega?? Seems like it is always the 24 that has these issues at the restricter plate races. Roush-Fenway Racing This team had the two fastest cars at Daytona at the end. I suspect it could be the same at Talladega. So far, the FR9 and Roush-Yates engines have had some excellent durability out of their engines, and I hope that is true here. They are fast, but just how fast will they be? Richard Childress Racing Their good competition guy went to Michael Waltrip, and that is where the magic is at. Those guys all seemed to have a bit of pep in their step when I visited their shop in January, but I don't know whati t would be like if I walked in there today. I thought downsizing to a three car model would make this team strong, but it hasn't so far in the first 1/4 of 2011. Kevin Harvick is tough.... this team ran 1-2 in the fall race with the 2 car drafting. What do you know? Stewart-Haas Racing They've got Hendrick stuff and seem to be doing better stuff with it than Hendrick can. They could be contenders at Talladega. Michael Waltrip Racing I believe Waltrip himself will be in a car this week. Please don't laugh. I say he will be out by lap 75. This team has had engine issues, so I'm going to stay away. Joe Gibbs RAcing The TRD engine. I just don't trust it yet without seenig how well it holds up for a few of these fast races. Penske Racing We will always have to wonder how well their engines can pick up fuel on high bank tracks. Places like Daytona, Texas, and Las Vegas have seen fuel pick up issues. The luck just isn't there and the program for large tracks hasn't been as strong. Keselowski will probably squeeze out a good finish, but the luck just isn't there for this team. Petty Motorsports Of all people, Marcos Ambrose was really strong at speedweeks. However, this team has a tendency to start the year off strong and fall off as it goes. But at Talladega, anyone can win. My Picks I'm going to go against one of my rules for winning championships. The only team without a DNF this year is Roush Fenway, and I'm just oging to hope it stays taht way. I'm picking the Roush cars to dominate and win Talladega. 1) Carl Edwards, mad about Richmond, wants to show he should have won that race in '09 2) Matt Kenseth, Daytona 500 winner, but to my knowledge never a Talladega winner 3) Greg Biffle, an underrated restricter plate racer, who I hope will show why he should remain the points leader. That's right, for the first time since Talladega of last year, I am NOT using a gimmick to pick a restricter plate race. That just isn't working this year. I'm going to pick with my head. Good luck, and enjoy the race. I think we will see the most exciting Talladega race since the inception of the COT. |
Dale Jr... Does have 5 wins here since his dads passing...(This could be the 1!)
Stewart.. Won in 08 Harvick.. Won in 2010 temp picks before practice and qualifying: Granted fords havent done well at dega. but did win 1 in 09 with a rainout with mc murray behind the wheel... Oh and dale jarret won in a ford in 08 (doesnt race anymore...) yotas havent won here since 08 with stewart and pyle (there only wins) stewarts back in a chevy hehehehehe The stats show Chevys have been Dominant since 1999... with the exception of the aboved mentioned..... PS: I wil never pick gordon ever again.!!!!! Good Luck everyone this week at DEGA!!! |
Damn, those picks were up within 1 minute.
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Originally Posted by Cowboy6622
(Post 453211)
Damn, those picks were up within 1 minute.
Incase of a tiebreaker....im willing to be the first pick choice lol... I need all the advantages i can get! Remember duane...i got a loooonnng way to go to get to the top of the heap.... Considering im on the very bottom holding the rest of you guys up.... But I do have Broad shoulders....:rotfl: |
Harvick
Johnson Kryle Busch |
Harvick
Menard Kurt Busch Going out on a double limb here, please don't break. |
Dale Earnhardt Jr
Jimmie Johnson Kevin Harvick |
Here's my picks
1) Dale Earnhardt Jr 2) Greg Biffle 3) Tony Stewart |
Dale Earnhardt Jr.
Tony Stewart Jeff Gordon |
1. #88 Dale jr. 2. #48 Jimmie Johnson 3. #17 Matt Kenseth <center>http://i563.photobucket.com/albums/s...ns499_logo.gif
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Gordon
Johnson Stewart |
I don't know why people are still picking Jeff Gordon. Is anyone picking him who has already picked him this year? How'd that work out for you? I got nothing against the guy. And he has a great Talladega record. But I'm not touching him with a 10 foot pole! Even Kahne is in better shape now.
But this race is obviously for Jr. And Jimmie will work with him on that - I think he's a team player who knows he still owes him one. Junior leaves Talladega with the points lead. Or he finally has a crap race and wrecks - he is overdue. 1. Dale Jr. 2. Jimmie Johnson 3. Greg Biffle |
Doesn't anyone want to make fun of my pics?
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77GP, as long as you're comfortable, so are we.
Junior is overdue for a win or a bad race.... either one. He has been lucky at Talladega for so long. If he wasn't poitns racing iwth Jimmie last year he may have won, who knows. I don't put much on the forum about my private life, but I will tell you that this is my last week as an undergraduate college student. I'm doing my student teaching right now. I finish up on Friday, no finals. Portfolio is alreayd turned in, I'm just riding the clock out. Next week at Darlington is a big one for me. Those of you who know me know Darlington is one of my top 3 favorite races of the year, and May is my favorite month of racing. With Talladega now in May, that just makes it even better. Not a bad race at all this month!!! And to cap ti all of on, on the morning of the Darlington race, I turn the tassel and graduate from college. |
Originally Posted by 77gp
(Post 453690)
Doesn't anyone want to make fun of my pics?
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HA HA Keane
Congrats Duane on your accomplishment... |
I meant to post my little series of videos about all the weird crap that has happened at Talladega... someone remind me.
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kyle busch
kurt busch carl edwards |
The controversy that surrounds Talladega is insane.
1991 Winston 500, Harry Gant wins a controversial race on fuel mileage because his teammate was pushing him around the track. Darrell Waltrip protested the race. However, his brakes had gone out and his pit crew had used the spoiler to stop the car coming into the pits. It was 10* too low, and NASCAR asked him after telling him his car was illegal if they still wanted him to do something about Gants win and he said "Let it go." The announcers go crazy about how this is illegal. 1991 Winston 500 - Finish - YouTube ^LINK!^ Just last year, a hauler caught fire... NASCAR Talladega Car Hauler Fire Fall 2011 - YouTube ^LINK^ One year, a crazy bastard stole the pace car. Crazy nut steals pace car - YouTube ^LINK^ IT was the site of where Bobby Allison crashed into the catch fence, and his son went on to win the race. 1987 Bobby Allison catchfence crash @ Talladega - YouTube ^LINK^ It was the scene of hte most recent crash in NASCAR history to have a car go over the wall and down the embankment behind a corner... Car Flips Over the Wall NASCAR Crash at Talladega - YouTube ^LINK^ A video doesn't exist, but Bobby Issac once climbed out of a race car here while leading claiming a voice kept telling him to get out of the car. I think that was 1971, and he climbed out of that car scared to death. This is a race full of crazy events. The fans are more rowdy. The racing is more intense. It is an experience to watch. This is Talladega. |
Oh man have I been slacking.
Kevin Harvick Tony Stewart Regan Smith |
Congratulations Duane. My daughter graduates from college this year also. My picks:
1. Jimmy Johnson 2. Kasey Kahne 3. Jeff Gordon - just because.... |
I am the only one who voted for REgan Smith being the next drive to get screwed out of a win? No one remembers when he was screwed out of that win at Talladega in 2008?
Tony Stewart Regan Smith Talladega Finish 2008 - YouTube |
I remember that one. I hope this is a really good race as I am excited to see it.
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My picks
#1 JR. #2 HARVICK #3 JIMMIE JOHNSON:thumbsup::congrats:
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ood Morning. Ok I'm here. I think Dale JR has been racing his ass off the last month. he's come so close the last couple of races. So # 1 pick goes to The 88 car of DALE JR Then it has to go to Tony Stewart,Then I hate those two brothers. But just to get a win. I'd sayKY Bush. There's a reason I call him KY :rotfl:
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Practice is today, qualifying tomorrow....
Last day of being a college student is today. I might have to borrow Brent's drinking hat tonight.... In the meantime, here are some fun Talladega stats... 20 -- Twenty races at Talladega have been decided by a last-lap pass (second only to Daytona's 23), including nine of the past 13 and the past four. Clint Bowyer, Jimmie Johnson, Dale Earnhardt and Cale Yarborough have the most last-lap wins, with two each. Three drivers were passed twice each: Earnhardt, Darrell Waltrip and Buddy Baker. Seven drivers have both won and lost on a last-lap pass: Johnson, Earnhardt, Waltrip, Kevin Harvick, Jeff Gordon, Brian Vickers and Dale Earnhardt Jr. __________________________________________________ ___ Track Tidbits .002 -- Five of the past six races at Talladega have had a margin of victory of less than one-tenth of a second, including the .002 MOV last spring, tied with Darlington (2003) as the closest since the inception of electronic scoring in 1993. The 'Dega MOV has been less than four-tenths of a second in the 30 races since (not including the seven that ended under caution). 6 -- There have been six green-white-checkered finishes at Talladega, ranking second behind only Daytona (nine) for the most at a track. The April 2010 race at 'Dega is the only race in series history to have three attempts at a G-W-C finish; it went an extra 12 laps (32 miles). 20 -- There have been 20 or more different leaders in each of the past 13 races at Talladega. It is the only track with races (eight) that have had 25 or more leaders. Two-car tandem racing led to 26 leaders in each of the past three races, and a series-record 29 in April 2010. Recent Trends 3 -- Richard Childress Racing has won three of the past four races at Talladega and leads all teams with 12 wins (nine by Dale Earnhardt, who had 10 total; his first came in 1983 in the No. 15 Ford of Bud Moore). Only one current RCR driver has won at 'Dega: Kevin Harvick in April 2010. Clint Bowyer, now with Michael Waltrip Racing, has won the past two fall races. 4 -- Kurt Busch has finished a track-best third four times in 22 races at Talladega, most recently in April 2007. Busch has the most restrictor-plate race top-fives (17), top-10s (25) and laps led (372) of all drivers who have never won a restrictor-plate race. He has finished in the 30s in four of the past eight races at 'Dega, including three DNFs (crash). 7 -- Jimmie Johnson has seven DNFs (four crash, three engine) in 20 races at Talladega, three more than any other track. However, he has only two DNFs (both crashes) in the past 10 races and in the past 12 starts has two wins (including last spring), two runners-up and three other top-10s. ©Racing Resources and Services -- Statistics ©Racing Recall® |
Fastest car in practice: Aric Almirola, in a BLUE OVAL!
But as we know, practice doens't mean much, qualifying means even less at Talladega. Pos Car Driver Laps Best Speed Last Speed Avg. Speed Best Time Last Time Avg. Time 1 43 Aric Almirola 21 199.172 191.413 186.490 48.08 50.03 51.35 2 55 Michael Waltrip 21 198.343 188.556 183.711 48.28 50.79 52.12 3 17 Matt Kenseth 18 197.986 189.879 188.031 48.37 50.43 50.93 4 24 Jeff Gordon 17 197.843 192.626 189.013 48.40 49.71 50.66 5 29 Kevin Harvick 13 197.725 193.478 186.913 48.43 49.49 51.23 6 2 Brad Keselowski 30 197.623 192.921 189.737 48.46 49.64 50.47 7 13 Casey Mears 11 197.447 186.304 181.012 48.50 51.40 52.90 8 39 Ryan Newman 16 197.212 188.396 181.503 48.56 50.83 52.76 9 31 Jeff Burton 21 197.195 192.475 182.374 48.56 49.75 52.51 10 27 Paul Menard 10 197.151 197.122 172.429 48.57 48.58 55.54 11 34 David Ragan 16 197.106 188.645 188.986 48.58 50.76 50.67 12 14 Tony Stewart 26 197.033 188.824 186.236 48.60 50.71 51.42 13 11 Denny Hamlin 16 196.847 194.666 184.099 48.65 49.19 52.02 14 18 Kyle Busch 25 196.830 196.025 188.626 48.65 48.85 50.77 15 99 Carl Edwards 23 196.689 193.026 185.797 48.69 49.61 51.54 16 20 Joey Logano 16 196.628 193.337 186.158 48.70 49.53 51.44 17 56 Martin Truex Jr. 24 196.411 163.773 176.750 48.76 58.47 54.18 18 51 Kurt Busch 21 196.278 192.862 187.813 48.79 49.65 50.99 19 9 Marcos Ambrose 10 196.254 192.405 183.813 48.79 49.77 52.10 20 5 Kasey Kahne 19 195.888 191.084 179.730 48.88 50.11 53.28 21 42 Juan Pablo Montoya 16 195.832 194.417 183.066 48.90 49.26 52.31 22 15 Clint Bowyer 16 195.640 192.324 183.574 48.95 49.79 52.16 23 78 Regan Smith 12 195.425 131.187 180.716 49.00 73.00 52.99 24 16 Greg Biffle 15 195.257 132.919 176.890 49.04 72.04 54.14 25 1 Jamie McMurray 17 195.170 194.583 179.162 49.06 49.21 53.45 26 22 A.J. Allmendinger 11 194.872 194.872 171.933 49.14 49.14 55.70 27 88 Dale Earnhardt Jr. 15 194.741 194.480 186.969 49.17 49.24 51.22 28 32 Terry Labonte 14 190.609 188.086 178.296 50.24 50.91 53.71 29 21 Trevor Bayne 7 190.158 190.158 178.456 50.36 50.36 53.66 30 48 Jimmie Johnson 17 189.819 189.819 168.487 50.45 50.45 56.84 31 38 David Gilliland 7 189.193 189.193 178.532 50.62 50.62 53.64 32 26 Josh Wise 3 188.853 188.853 177.535 50.71 50.71 53.94 33 30 David Stremme 7 188.270 187.971 177.228 50.86 50.94 54.03 34 47 Bobby Labonte 8 188.038 188.038 177.933 50.93 50.93 53.82 35 97 Bill Elliott 3 187.651 187.651 176.130 51.03 51.03 54.37 36 10 David Reutimann 2 187.214 187.214 168.540 51.15 51.15 56.82 37 87 Joe Nemechek 3 186.896 186.896 176.907 51.24 51.24 54.13 38 49 J.J. Yeley 3 185.581 185.581 175.973 51.60 51.60 54.42 39 23 Robert Richardson Jr. 3 185.524 185.524 173.127 51.62 51.62 55.31 40 83 Landon Cassill 6 185.409 185.409 172.352 51.65 51.65 55.56 41 98 Michael McDowell 2 185.015 185.015 172.468 51.76 51.76 55.52 42 36 Dave Blaney 8 184.801 184.801 175.713 51.82 51.82 54.50 43 93 Travis Kvapil 6 184.242 184.235 173.063 51.98 51.98 55.33 44 33 Tony Raines 3 183.610 183.610 173.396 52.15 52.15 55.23 |
Ford top 3 fastest in final practice... but as I already confessed, practice and qualifying don't mean a thing at Talladega.
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Im stickn with my original pics....(Page 1)
All Chevys....(the winningst manufacturer at Dega) Almirola will fall by the wayside in his "blue oval"....(no restrictor plate experience) Once again jimmy johnsons going to also continue his issues at Dega... Gordon really cost me the last time i picked him....Hes still a failure! (Bad Pick) Of course PYLE busch....:rotfl: we all know hes gonna crash....early... I cant wait for sunday...if its gonna be anything like the arca race..... If your in the back.....Hang on...your more than likely going for a ride !!! Like the corkscrew at Cedar Point....:congrats: (ask carl edwards) hehehehehehehehees 40mins til Qualifying Thanks for the stats Duane... But your right: Practice dont mean squat at Talladega ! |
Biffle
Kenseth Gordon |
STUMPMI, here are the stats on Aric Almirola... here are his previous Talladega results...
Year Race no. STart. Finish. Status 2010 33 37 20 188/188 Running 2008 9 28 33 186/188 Running 2008 30 3 13 190/190 Running 2007 30 38 30 156/188 Engine He had to take a time out and go back to Nationwide, where he ran just "ok" for a couple of years. He has definitely run some laps at Talladega in the past.... 720 laps of it, in fact. And he was running at teh end of 3 out of 4, lost the engine in the other... seems to be able to get his car to the finish, on the lead lap half the time. Guess there won't be any of those Toyotas in teh top 10 either, kind of like back at Richmond, right? Like, that wasn't a Toyota that won? |
1 harvick
2 stewart 3 dale jr |
Originally Posted by Cowboy6622
(Post 455280)
here are the stats on Aric Almirola... here are his previous Talladega results...
3-Wide Photo Finish! Kyle Busch Wins - 2010 Mountain Dew 250 - YouTube They really opened up a can of worms with the stupid double line rule, which was made on the spot when Regan Smith beat Pony in 2008. I remember that one vividly of course. I hold it dear to my heart and reference it often. Because every driver in the garage knows what they were told in the drivers meeting and every driver in the garage knows who really won that race. Some even said so on camera before being silenced by Nascar management. It was the only time is recent history they took the win away from somebody |
Lots of action in the ARCA and Nationwide races!.....
If thats an indicator of whats going to happen at the cup race.... We are sure in for lots of action and mayhem!... Oh Ya! What a shocker! :eek: :rotfl::rotfl::rotfl::rotfl::rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:: rotfl: :rotfl:GORDONS ON THE POLE !!!!:rotfl: :rotfl::rotfl::rotfl::rotfl::rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:: rotfl: |
Well it's time to put my picks in. I know there's not going to be much surprise coming from me as I've picked this same group of drivers in most of my races.
Jr Biffle Harvick |
Well its raining in Taladega......
will it be delayed til Monday? |
It's clearing up now. Should be a full day of racing.
Jr. Gordon. Edwards |
Wish they would get this thing started. I'm sick of waiting.
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RAISE YOUR HAND IF YOU THINK MICHAEL WALTRIP WILL BE CRASHED OUT IN THE FIRST 5 LAPS!:rotfl:
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