I agreed to a press conference... and I have a few questions. If anyone would like to add some, I'll answer them later on as well.

I'd like to start with my opening statement... I'm happy with my performance so far in this segment, running 2nd with 25 points out of 1st. Although I was hoping to defend my title, It's looking like I'll have to settle with a chance to go for 3rd. I'm most happy to have ended my 66 race winless streak which dated back to Bristol in March 2011. I'm pretty ambivalent about how. Jeff Gordon's shot into Bowyer really cost me 25 points that coudl have had me close to, tied, or even ahead of 03JGMonte for the Segment lead, and could have had me third in the overall points with a snowballs chance at a title.

But at the same time, years from now when we look back at this race, and how historic that throwdown was, and how much excitement there was... I'll be proud to be the one who can say I survived the ending of that race and broke a long winless streak through all that melee.

And at this time, I'll take a couple of questions...
That's a great question. I'm glad we (by that, I mean I, since you live in Canada), live in a free country where you can ask great questions like that. I want to do everything possible to make sure this remains a free country open to ideas and expression and welcomes people who ask great questions like that.

I don't know. Although I'm guilty of breaking it all the time, my general rule is "I won't tell you how to do your job if you don't tell me how to do mine." NASCAR is the one that said "Boys, have at it"... so this 25 point penalty and big fine for Jeff Gordon is almost saying "Well, don't have at it that much."

As far as points and fines... these guys are millionaires and billionaires... they don't care about money and fines. Besides, it all goes to charity and I bet they could write these fines off their taxes for that reason. I fail to see how fines do anythign but look impressive to those of us who work for $30,000 a year.

Points are going to get attention... but the thing with Jeff is, he isn't racing for a championship anyway so he doesn't care too much. Perhaps if we took away Jeff's poitns nad gave them to Clint... but if Clint won the title, that would look fishy. I think the only logical thing to do with drivers is to give them suspensions when they pull this crap. Not being able to race takes away their ability to do the one thing they love most.

Bowyer.... well, Bowyer didn't do anything to any other driver on the track.... he did things the proper way by trying ot settle it in the garage. Joey Logano didn't lose a chance at a top 10 finish ebcause of Bowyer's actions.

So, in summary... I say either do suspensions or call it "Boys, have at it" and do nothing.

 

It's time for me to put on my officiating hat as well... so let me do that...

Ah, there we go, fits well...

Points penalties are being issued to three members and it is being denoted.

Leprechaun93, 77GP, and zjerry are all being penalized 25 points for Jeff Gordon's actions during the NASCAR race at Phoenix Arizona on November 11, 2012 for an incident on track involving Clint Bowyer.

That will affect the points in the following way.




Overall:
1) carlm54stl 3638 Leader
2) 03JGMonte 3632 -6
3) Cowboy6622 3554 -84
4) Leprechaun93 3549 -89
5) JuniorCar 3504 -134
6) montecarlo3831 3484 -154
7) zjerry 3482 -156
8) butch049 3441 -197
9) SupplySgt 3436 -202
10) 02 Earnhardt 3435 -203
11) lougreen03 3244
12) 77GP 3215
13) bblackstone 3210
14) STUMPMI 3154
15) silverfish33 2098
16) adgm2005 1905
17) MnteCrloSS47 1683
18) RocknSS04 1142
19) Ricks 2006 SS 1112
20) SuperSportSteve 928
21) 01 Monte SS 908
22) nichols2k 578
23) 06 Mistre SS 4282
24) Teacher 306
25) yutzybrian 211
26) SS Means Super Sexy 171
27) monte06ltz 92
28) Racebound2 83
29) Possum 77
30) 04chevyboy 76
31) Emily666 61
32) mousehousemoparman 54



Segment 4

1) 03JGMonte 908 Leader
2) Cowboy6622 883 -25
3) butch049 862 -46
4) carlm54stl 853 -55
5) zjerry 823 -85
6) STUMPMI 821 -87
7) monte carlo 3831 821 -87
8) Leprechaun93 819 -89
9) 02 Earnhardt 803 -105
10) MnteCrloSS 799 -109
11) JuniorCar 733 -175
12) 77GP 716 -192
13) SupplySgt 713 -195
14) lougreen03 690 -218
15) blackstone 640
16) silverfish33 379
17) Ricks 2006 SS 115
18) SSmeansSuperSexy 111


In most cases, the people penalized lost positions.


However, the rule, as stated in our rules and procedures thread, stickied inside the NASCAR Racing thread on this forum, read as follows:

6) Any penalties that any of your picks earn points wise for the entire year will also be taken away from your own points. This includes any comments made by your driver that end up in points deductions, such as when Jr. cursed in victory lane and was docked points, or any points deductions due to illegal parts on your choices car, such as when Clint Bowyer was docked 150 points at New Hampshire in 2010. Any penalty involving probation or money only will not result in any points loss.


One thing we neglected when making the rules was whether or not a person should ose their position in the race. I have decided that since Gordon was still given credit for 28th position, therefore, all members who picked him should maintain their position in the race. However, two of those guys would be unaffected and another would drop from 9th to 11th. I have interpreted the rule to say that only poitns position due to p[oints loss should be factored in, and that each member shoudl maintain their position. Therefore, Leprechaun will maintain his 9th place finish. This rule is open to discussion and editing for 2013.



New race results read as follows

1) Cowboy6622 43 43 16 102
2) JuniorCar 23 35 40 98
3) lougreen03 12 39 47 98
4) 03JGMonte 12 39 43 94
5) butch049 12 39 43 94
6) MnteCrloSS47 12 43 33 88
7) carlm54stl 12 39 37 88
8) monte carlo 3831 12 47 23 82
9) Leprechaun93 -11 39 25 53
10) 02 Earnhardt 23 12 39 74
11) STUMPMI 12 39 23 74
12) 77GP -11 12 39 40
13) zjerry -11 25 23 37

 

So does anyone else think the $25k fine for Keslowski a bit excessive?? & i think everyone should pick Gordon & Boyer for this race

 

Carl should, anyway, right?

 

Yeah he should deff pick em

 

Harvick
Keslowski
Johnson

It has been a fun season but my picks were all pretty bad this season. I had at least 1 driver fall apart each week. I wish Carl and Mike luck in the final race. Overall it was a fun season but like Chris I am unsure about my participation next year.

 

Check your horoscope... maybe your luck will change next year...

I need to keep as many of you guys on board as possible!

 

In other news, Montreal didn't make the NASCAR cut for a race this year... kind of a shame, it was really the best road course on teh schedule.


But in its place, the Mid Ohio Sports Car Circuit gets a race!! I think that's cool.... I think the Sprint cup guys need a good road course... I'm still saying someone needs to run Sebring!!!


And rumor on the street is that the truck series is going to run Eldora Speedway!!! A dirt track!!!

 

It would be awesome if the truck series gets to run on dirt

 

As a side note... I just went back to Darlingotn, when Carl took the poitns lead and looked at that thread.


Carl Martin won Darlington with a 1-2-3 finish set of picks. 03JGMonte infamously took Patrick, Montoya, and someone else and only scored 67 points. Here were hte points after race 10 at Darlington...

1) carlm54stl 1170 Leader
2) JuniorCar 1157 -13
3) montecarlo3831 1133 -37
4) bblackstone 92 1122 -48
5) Cowboy6622 1119 -51
6) SupplySgt 1089 -81
7) lougreen03 1076 -94
8) zJerry 1074 -96
9) Leprechaun93 1063 -107
10) 02 Earnhardt 1048 -122
11) RocknSS04 1027 -143
12) butch049 1011 -159
13) 03JGMonte 994 -176
14) 77GP 991 -179
15) silverfish 938 -232
16) 01 Monte SS 908 -262
17) SuperSportSteve 823 -347
18) STUMPMI 815 -355
19) adgm2005 570 -600