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Old Apr 10, 2015 | 09:00 PM
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The factory service manual gives unit measurements for O2s in millivolts, 0-1000 and constantly varying for both 1&2.
 
Old Apr 11, 2015 | 06:35 AM
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Ok i meant to say 600-700 volts.
 
Old Apr 11, 2015 | 07:59 AM
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Millivolts!, but I know what you meant. I might hook up my tech II today to see how that compares. Did you use the Cataclean yet? What are the results?
 
Old Apr 11, 2015 | 08:54 AM
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yes I mean millivolts,i found that when I pinched off the main vacuum line going out to the sensors that my STFT went down to 3% it was at 12% .some where along that line is vacuum leak...have not put cat clean in yet,code went on this morn,waiting to be a 1/4 tank,im close now little below 1/2..
 
Old Apr 11, 2015 | 12:22 PM
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Hooked up the Tech 2. Here's what I came up with. From eng. temp. cold at start up both STFT & LTFT were at 0% +/- 1-2% at idle (725 rpm). I ran through some other diagnostics like HO2S sensors 1&2 and found them as described, varying in range from 0-1000 mV but more or less stable around 600-700 mV when I accelerated to 2500 rpm. Rechecked The FTs after 20-30 minutes idling and LTFT went up to +16% which I believe is normal due to the long idle time. Then monitored while driving up to 40mph and both STFT & LTFTs went back to around 0%. So in conclusion, you may have seen the 16% after a long idle time like me and you don't have a vac leak at all. The HO2S sensors are normal, so the problem is the Cat. To confirm you should go for a drive to see if the 16% LTFT drops like mine.
 
Old Apr 11, 2015 | 12:41 PM
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BTY- I bought the car new in 2001. At 100,000 miles a did a major tune-up using all OEM parts except and UIM the LIM gasket which I used after market improved versions of. Replaced all plugs, plug wires, coil packs, ICM, PCV, TPS, IAC motor, all 6 injectors, air filter, LIM gasket, UIM, and cleaned the MAF. It now has 125,000 and think it's running pretty much perfect.
 

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Old Apr 11, 2015 | 01:45 PM
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there is a hose that splits off one side goes to map sensor and the other side goes through the fuel rail sensor..when I pinch it off I get 0% STFT ,it was 10% ..after that line I pinch doesn't do anything,could fuel injectors leak vacuum?
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Old Apr 11, 2015 | 02:13 PM
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The injectors themselves are under fuel pressure and electrically activated. There could be a leak around an o-ring where it is sealed to the intake manifold, but I would think you would see and smell a fuel leak.
 
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put the car clean in and drove 45 miles..will check sensors later..what else could that vacuum leak be?
 
Old Apr 11, 2015 | 11:10 PM
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Did you check the tubes around the EGR? It's hard to find the cracks.
 



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