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Old Apr 15, 2010 | 04:50 PM
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So the 4t60e is handling the LS4? How much HP should that transmission be handling at a maximum? From what I understand, it really isn't much stronger than the 4t65e, and its limit was 300HP.
 
Old Apr 16, 2010 | 11:14 AM
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If I remember reading things correctly, It's pretty much maxed out right out of the box.
 

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Old Apr 16, 2010 | 12:18 PM
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Does the 5.3 require 91 octane fuel? Or can you run 87 on it?
 
Old Apr 16, 2010 | 12:20 PM
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You CAN run it, but it's recommended to be ran on premium, which I always use.
 
Old Apr 16, 2010 | 12:37 PM
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Originally Posted by RickAKATed10
You CAN run it, but it's recommended to be ran on premium, which I always use.
x2 If you go with a supercharger, or the Z28 you will need premium too.
 
Old Apr 16, 2010 | 01:54 PM
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i thought the ls4 cars could be run on regular with the factory tune? i never have just thought it was an option. i do believe you are correct about the trans being close to maxed out, but i thought there were a bunch of hardened parts and what not put in specifically because of ls4. actually it might just be that trans in general was beefed up.

4T65E-HD Information

These are the upgrades that GM made to the MN7 version of the 4T65E-HD transmission to mate with the 5.3L LS4. Attached is the spec sheet for the MN7. One thing to add is that for the 2006 model year GM changed from Dexron V to Dexron VI fluid.
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- 258mm, RI 15 Torque Converter
- Enhanced Heavy Duty 3.29 Final Drive
- 2.93 Effective Final Drive
- Transmission case for transmission mounted starter
- Net-formed Input Sun Gear
- Ceramic bead Peened Final Drive Sun Gear
- Input/Reaction Carrier Assembly
- Contour Hardened ReactionInternal Gear
- Input Carrier & Gear Asm. with lube grooves
- Shot-peened, Black-oxided Input Carrier Pinions
- Shot-peened Reaction Carrier Pinions
- Shot-peened Final Drive Sun shaft
- Upgraded Drive sprocket Thrust washers (new for high speed capability)
 

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Old Apr 16, 2010 | 02:18 PM
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Wow that's good info MonteMan. And yes, you can run regular gas.
 
Old Apr 16, 2010 | 02:58 PM
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whats the hp rating for that trans? and not to sound dumb but what IIRC ive seen that alot lately on the boards and im lost.
Usually factory transmissions have a max torque rating, and max gross vehicle weight- not a horsepower rating. I'm not sure what the torque rating is between the 65 and 80- but I could've swore the 4t65 was always just a pinch higher than the L67 put out (280ish)- and they bumped it up a little with some new parts for the LS4.

About the transmission deal on the 2006-2007 Monte Carlo SS, does it use\ the same transmission that the 2004-2005 Monte's used? I thought that the 4t60e wasn't supposed to be able to handle 300HP, or maybe that was about when it started to have problems.
4t60 has been gone for awhile IIRC- all these cars use the 4t65 or 4t65HD (on the L67, and LS4 models). I believe they did do a few minor changes to it when the LS4 started being used though. As I said above, I've never seen the factory use a HP rating- its usually a max gross vehicle weight, and a max torque rating

So the 4t60e is handling the LS4? How much HP should that transmission be handling at a maximum? From what I understand, it really isn't much stronger than the 4t65e, and its limit was 300HP.
No, 4t65HD on the LS4. And, its pretty much at the factory max out of the box- it was even close to maxed on the L67's. Obviously there is some engineering safety factored in- but as you can see with all the failures (and years of people racing L67's with 4t65's) that there isn't a lot of extra design factored in.

Does the 5.3 require 91 octane fuel? Or can you run 87 on it?
i thought the ls4 cars could be run on regular with the factory tune?
Due to the faster computer systems- they now say 'premium recommended' (not required like it used to be on older GTP's)- all it does is sense all the extra knock, and drop you down to a lesser spark table- meaning less power.

IMO, if you're even considering running regular gas- don't buy a performance car. It really defeats the purpose of buying a higher power car, just to put crappy gas in it and run at a lower power level, you know?
 
Old Apr 16, 2010 | 03:26 PM
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Originally Posted by bumpin96monte
IMO, if you're even considering running regular gas- don't buy a performance car. It really defeats the purpose of buying a higher power car, just to put crappy gas in it and run at a lower power level, you know?
I had always thought "I'm gonna avoid that car it requires premium" But if you stop and think about it, premium goes for .20-.24 a gallon more then regular. I usually wind up putting around 12 gallons in the Impala or Z28 at a time, that comes to less then $3 a fill-up. Not that bad for making sure the engine gets what it needs and wants.
 
Old Apr 16, 2010 | 06:47 PM
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I've been reading that the 5.3 V8 has something called "active fuel management" I think. It says something about shutting down 4 cylinders during normal highway cruising, so the car may achieve up to 28MPG highway driving.

This is a relatively uncommon technology, and I wasn't expecting this to come with the SS. Does it come with all 5.3's? Is it a good addition? Does it work well? Have any problems? Can you control it manually? Not sure how to take it, I was prepared to deal with a V8 fuel consumption.
 

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