I'm thinking what I'm going to do with my pick up truck is mix up some fiberglass resin and apply it to the backside of everything that usually rusts out.... See how that works out

 

i hope every thing works out for you chibi because all the work you have done to it. it did sound really fishy that they failed you like that and probably wanted you in a newer chevy to do the same to it like you did to your monte. it is a low blow they did they should have said we need to fix these for you like the break lines and pads. then tell you about the rust and tell you about the quote to fix it seperetly. just to get your buisness to keep you comiong back. thats what the dealer did that i worked for did ask to fix the imedeat problem like the lines and the breaks. then get a quote from the body shop to fix the underlining problem like the rust. by the time you come back they wanted to see most of it fixed and say you know it still needs this but i see your getting it fixed in a timely manner.

 

thats what a true shop i think should be and run that does inspections

 

Fibreglass will not protect against rust. I've fibreglassed all sorts of things - moisture gets under it. Then the fibreglass traps it and the metal rots fast. This is why people say don't use header wrap (but there is a smarter way to do that too BTW).

This slightly amuses me. I don't consider myself an expert on crap, but undercoating seems to be unheard of here. I can't express how much it is an industry here. I got a guy that comes to my work and picks my car up, undercoats it and brings it back for $40. That is a good deal. It can cost up to $200 to do a good job. Krown actually provides some kind of warranty on new cars.

There is 2 kinds of undercoating: drip and non-drip. Both are essentially oil, but non-drip has more wax added to it. Non-drip does a good job to resist water and is more durable/ last longer. And it does not make a mess of your laneway. If you have to park over your own pavement, no-drip is probably what you want to use. But "drip" is a little cheaper. Even better, it penetrates better. If you have a little bit older of a car with light surface rust (or even nasty heavy rust) the oil will soak in better if you use "drip" undercoating. The rust holds it and the oil helps to actually treat the rust.

I don't know what more I can say about undercoating. Everybody should do this to save your Monte Carlos because uni-body cars are not forever!!! These cars will never be able to undergo a "classic restoration" like Duanes Torino. When they rust they are gone! Undercoating should be able to double your cars life if you take car and repeat often.

The only downside is that it adds weight (which hurt 1/4 mile, mpg, etc...)

 

funny because i passed with bad brake pads here in mass at a dealer and 153k and a fesh tune up

 

I'll agree with you as soon as you crawl under my Torino and show me where the frame is!!! It has a "sub frame" I guess... it has like a set of infrastruture around the engine, but it doesn't actually have a frame. People who want handling on the Torino forum tube frame theirs... the Mustang was also a unibody.

Itn's not as unibody as a Monte Carlo or any other modern unibody... but they're unibody.

 

I'm sorry Mike. Now I wish it was an April fool's joke.


Hope you get your Monte straightened out! Good luck.

 

Brent you're really raising my eye brow on undercoating.... My horizon could benefit highly from a drip treatment as its got some rust, my dads suv could use a coating and my monte which has nothing as it was a southern car could benefit before rust starts. What about undercoating you do yourself, i've got cans of rubberized under coating floating around. But i heard that was no good as it traps moisture

 

X2 You should crawl under a 1965 Chevy II , I had one the whole front end frame work is stamped sheet metal ..I would love to had a sub frame like the one on my Monte..

 

The actual stuff I sell (@ work) comes in 19L pails or larger. A pail does about 3-4 cars. But we do sell a few aerosol to "spot" rustproof. Try KleenFlo HoneyGoo or NLS Fluid Film. It would be expensive to try doing an entire car this way