Question about L36 supercharger kit from zzperformance
#1
Question about L36 supercharger kit from zzperformance
ZZPerformance sells a supercharger kit for an L36 engine. If I bought something like this, is it the same thing as doing a top swap? I dont really know that much about superchargers or anything like that. Is this kit for a top swap, and they are just parting it out for you? What does everybody think? Im thinking about gettin one of these but would appreciate some insight from monte carlo owners.
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#2
Pretty much.
But it's a bit costly considering a top swap could be done for a lot cheaper.
The new ZZP L36 Supercharger kit allows you to bolt a GM Gen 3 Eaton M90 supercharger to your Series 2 3800 non-supercharged engine with out the need for all the traditional components and without the extensive labor or special tools.
#3
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: Mentor, Ohio
Posts: 12,156
This kit does not include the heads. As I understand, the L67 has injectors going into the heads instead of the intake (which the L36 does). I don't follow much on the L67 or top-swapping, so I don't know if that is a custom lower intake OR a limited intake (perhaps to a specific year).
There are many factors that go into why the kit costs the way it does (used parts that have to be cleaned, inspected and machined for example).
If you are looking to top swap, do a LOT of reading first, ask for info from people who have done it. For instance, if I was to get the bolt on hardware from a junk yard, I believe I can get all I need from the heads up for about $500, but the yard I go to, I could just buy the engine for a little less then that cost too.... But, if I intend it to last and take a little abuse, I would probably be wise to rebuild it if I were to use it.
Food for thought.
There are many factors that go into why the kit costs the way it does (used parts that have to be cleaned, inspected and machined for example).
If you are looking to top swap, do a LOT of reading first, ask for info from people who have done it. For instance, if I was to get the bolt on hardware from a junk yard, I believe I can get all I need from the heads up for about $500, but the yard I go to, I could just buy the engine for a little less then that cost too.... But, if I intend it to last and take a little abuse, I would probably be wise to rebuild it if I were to use it.
Food for thought.
#4
This kit does not include the heads. As I understand, the L67 has injectors going into the heads instead of the intake (which the L36 does). I don't follow much on the L67 or top-swapping, so I don't know if that is a custom lower intake OR a limited intake (perhaps to a specific year).
There are many factors that go into why the kit costs the way it does (used parts that have to be cleaned, inspected and machined for example).
If you are looking to top swap, do a LOT of reading first, ask for info from people who have done it. For instance, if I was to get the bolt on hardware from a junk yard, I believe I can get all I need from the heads up for about $500, but the yard I go to, I could just buy the engine for a little less then that cost too.... But, if I intend it to last and take a little abuse, I would probably be wise to rebuild it if I were to use it.
Food for thought.
There are many factors that go into why the kit costs the way it does (used parts that have to be cleaned, inspected and machined for example).
If you are looking to top swap, do a LOT of reading first, ask for info from people who have done it. For instance, if I was to get the bolt on hardware from a junk yard, I believe I can get all I need from the heads up for about $500, but the yard I go to, I could just buy the engine for a little less then that cost too.... But, if I intend it to last and take a little abuse, I would probably be wise to rebuild it if I were to use it.
Food for thought.
#5
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: Mentor, Ohio
Posts: 12,156
Personally, I think the kit is a bit expensive, as I mentioned, I could get an entire L67 for less or just the heads up for less then this kit. But the trade off is this kit gives over a junk yard are the fact it's supposed to be good to go out of the box (no rebuilding or replacing bearings in the supercharger and such, by the time I could finish rebuilding the top end of an L67, I might be up to that cost or more, hard to say never did it). Plus as I understand, using an L36 with a SuperCharger kit means you can get the same output with less boost because the compression ratios on a L36 are different then the L67.
So going down the road of a bolt on kit may allow you more options for higher output (I will admit, I'm speculating right now without any real research to back up the claim, so don't take my word on this).
You may also want to sign up on ClubGP.com. People sometimes demod their cars and sometimes that includes selling a kit like this.
As I mentioned, read up on what you want to do and ask for input from others that have used this kit.
So going down the road of a bolt on kit may allow you more options for higher output (I will admit, I'm speculating right now without any real research to back up the claim, so don't take my word on this).
You may also want to sign up on ClubGP.com. People sometimes demod their cars and sometimes that includes selling a kit like this.
As I mentioned, read up on what you want to do and ask for input from others that have used this kit.
#6
That kit really isn't the greatest. For the cost it just isn't worth it. You say you don't live near junkyards, and that's fine.
You also can't modify that engine as easily as a true top swap, since a bunch of parts are custom, and the pullies are also custom from ZZP
Check clubgp.com/newforum or other w-body forums. People part out full top-swap kits for around $400-$600 all the time.
You also can't modify that engine as easily as a true top swap, since a bunch of parts are custom, and the pullies are also custom from ZZP
Check clubgp.com/newforum or other w-body forums. People part out full top-swap kits for around $400-$600 all the time.
#7
That kit really isn't the greatest. For the cost it just isn't worth it. You say you don't live near junkyards, and that's fine.
You also can't modify that engine as easily as a true top swap, since a bunch of parts are custom, and the pullies are also custom from ZZP
Check clubgp.com/newforum or other w-body forums. People part out full top-swap kits for around $400-$600 all the time.
You also can't modify that engine as easily as a true top swap, since a bunch of parts are custom, and the pullies are also custom from ZZP
Check clubgp.com/newforum or other w-body forums. People part out full top-swap kits for around $400-$600 all the time.
#8
You will need to have your PCM tuned for a top-swap. Also you will want to purchase all new gaskets and fluids for everything you are replacing.