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Old 08-24-2010 | 09:45 AM
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Oh...and this is important- you may see big KR- full boost on a 3.4 pulley is alot different than 3.5/4 PSI- if you start seeing KR back off right away- don't blow up your engine!
 
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Old 08-24-2010 | 11:01 AM
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Correct me if I'm wrong but if I disconnect that vacuum tube the bypass won't relieve pressure will it? I could blow my engine the first time I step on it.
 
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Old 08-24-2010 | 11:37 AM
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You're wrong. The vacuum line attached to the manifold will vacuum activate the valve- furthermore, even if both lines are disconnected the valve won't stay CLOSED, it'll stay OPEN (which is what is happening to you right now) and you'd see 3.5/4 PSI max boost. Otherwise there'd be alot of blown up L67s out there.

FYI, my Monte has no BBV solenoid- it's operated off of manifold vacuum only.
 
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Old 08-24-2010 | 11:42 AM
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Probably won't blow it on a 3.4 with those mods. All you need to do is bypass the bypass valve and let her rip. I'm thinking closer to 8-9 PSI with those mods.

Either way you shouldn't hit any destructive KR.
 
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Old 08-24-2010 | 11:49 AM
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Probably won't blow it on a 3.4 with those mods. All you need to do is bypass the bypass valve and let her rip. I'm thinking closer to 8-9 PSI with those mods.

Either way you shouldn't hit any destructive KR.
If we're talking 8.4:1 compression (L67) then I'd agree. But, there's a huge difference between an L67 with a 3.4 pulley and an L36 (9.5:1) with a 3.4 pulley. It'd be pretty easy to get massive knock with a 3.4 on an L36 without a solid tune and serious supporting mods.

Regardless, I agree that he needs to figure out his missing boost problem before he does anything.
 
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Old 08-24-2010 | 08:32 PM
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Originally Posted by 03SS/00GSE/93LX
If we're talking 8.4:1 compression (L67) then I'd agree. But, there's a huge difference between an L67 with a 3.4 pulley and an L36 (9.5:1) with a 3.4 pulley. It'd be pretty easy to get massive knock with a 3.4 on an L36 without a solid tune and serious supporting mods.

Regardless, I agree that he needs to figure out his missing boost problem before he does anything.
True, but he also has a custom tune which resulted in 0 KR so bypassing it to see if he can break 3.5 PSI shouldn't be a problem.

After rereading the original post though I do need to ask for more info to find out if the tuner was an idiot. When the car was custom tuned, did you get 7-8 PSI and this 3.5 PSI is a new problem or was it tuned did it only goto 3.5?

Also to goto that 3.2 pulley start looking into an intercooler (best option) and getting a bigger cam.
 
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Old 08-25-2010 | 06:21 AM
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True, but he also has a custom tune which resulted in 0 KR so bypassing it to see if he can break 3.5 PSI shouldn't be a problem.
You're probably right, but I didn't want him getting too comfortable with the idea of dropping pulleys too quickly on his higher compression setup. I bet that 3.4 does knock a bit as it sits right now once he gets full boost back.
 
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Old 08-25-2010 | 09:12 AM
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you are definitely having an issue with your BBV. get that fixed and go have some fun! it's amazing how much of a difference doubling your boost can make. as far as the tune, my guess is that you have a different year tb (and maf) than the pcm order was for. the MAF charts are quite different for certain year MAF's....i would richen it back up to 11.4-11.5 or so, 11.8 is a little aggressive on a 3800, there isnt really power to be had by running it that lean, and you are better safe than sorry!! in our experience, leaning a SC 3800 past 11.5 or so picks up almost no HP. our cobalts on the other hand, leaning them out to 12.20's usually picks up like 10 whp....
 
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Old 08-25-2010 | 10:10 AM
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^awesome to see a ZZP rep on here.

And nice numbers on that GP!
 
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Old 08-28-2010 | 10:01 AM
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I tried replacing the BBV actuator and saw the same amount of boost on my gauge as well as on some dyno equipment so I know it isn't the gauge. The guy at the dyno who tuned it suggested dropping the pulley to see if boost goes up.
 


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