My car did when it was stock. Supercharged cars my be diff idk. But that was factory that was one of the first things I got rid of lol

 

This car most definantly was not stock when I bought it. It has had 10 owners (mostly auto auctions). So its had alot of work and Only way I can find out what is by trial and error. Like the first time I raced another N/A 3800 and kicked its but. I Wonder if it's been tuned?

 

It's possible no way to tell really then take it to a shop like zzp and have them look at pcm or send it in. With just a tune I don't think you would smoke the same car untuned. May win but with nothing else done to your car would be weird unless he sucked at driving

 

The speed limiter varies just a couple of miles based on certain conditions detected by the PCM. But in general, stops around 110mph, so if you hit 120mph, I think that suggests heavily that something (if only the speed limiter) was altered.

If I follow, you're say two of the same Montes, one with only a tune and the other without a tune you feel should still be equal in a race? Most cars from the factory have a very generic tune on them. In the right hands, a stock vehicle still has room for improvement (some of that is just tuning it for your location, such as atmosphere and elevation). Also, since these transmissions are driven heavily by the PCM to control line pressure and shift points, that too can help add to that change.

I'd say there is a chance (may not be a huge one), that a tune could give a driver a slight edge in a race.

 

Maniac if you read my post over again you can see I stated I don't think it would "smoke" one thats untuned. Didn't say it wouldn't be a little better but not going to make him smoke a untuned monte. And he said he smoked one. So just saying pry something more going on.

 

Pretty sure its more than just a tune. I may never know exactly what was done.

 

Well once you start modding you will pry figure it out as you go.

 

OK. Sometimes it's tough reading comments on the Internet to determine to what degree someone meant by certain terms.
But you point makes sense.