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Old Jun 26, 2009 | 08:27 PM
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i made bank from it so i bought a firebird for a project, but need to focus on school so gonna prob sell it. when i do sell it i wanna lower the monte and get a tat.
what you think???

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Old Jun 26, 2009 | 08:41 PM
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Old Jun 26, 2009 | 09:03 PM
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are those springs/struts gonna b good?
 
Old Jun 26, 2009 | 09:30 PM
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If you're gonna spend that much, might as well put a little more with it and get the AGX
 
Old Jun 26, 2009 | 10:11 PM
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That is a good price for struts and springs. Alot of people use the GR2 struts and Ive heard nothing but good things about them. Im sorry but you dont need AGX struts on our montes. There is no need for an adjustable suspension on a 3500 lb daily driven car. You will pay the same or more for the AGXs alone that you will for the GR2s with springs.
 
Old Jun 27, 2009 | 01:55 AM
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i love my agxs on my 03 never had a prob...makes the car alot of fun to drive...but the kit seems like a goos deal
 
Old Jun 28, 2009 | 01:52 AM
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That is a good price for struts and springs. Alot of people use the GR2 struts and Ive heard nothing but good things about them. Im sorry but you dont need AGX struts on our montes. There is no need for an adjustable suspension on a 3500 lb daily driven car. You will pay the same or more for the AGXs alone that you will for the GR2s with springs.
Alot of people run Sony car audio, does that mean they're good too? You say AGX aren't needed as if that's fact, when the only fact is that it's your opinion. If you don't think you need them, great, but just because that's your opinion doesn't mean everyone else should feel the same. Having owned both in the past, the AGX are a far better shock all the way around. The GR2's are just a slight improvement over oem shocks and although they'll get the job done they are limiting.

When lowering a car, the idea is to match the spring rate with the dampening ability of the shocks. If the spring is stiffer than the struts the ride will be too bouncy or floaty. If the strut is stiffer than the spring the ride will be too harsh or rough. With AGX shocks you can use a wider variety of springs because you can dial in the dampening as needed to better match the springs being used. IMO, that's something well worth the added cost of going with AGX.

-= GR2 =-
GR2 is about 10-15% firmer than OEM shocks
GR2 can handle NO MORE than 50% of OEM spring rate
GR2 can handle around a mild drop of 1 to 1.5 inches

-= AGX =-

The AGX products have the following approximate damping force values. When adjusted, both rebound and compression damping forces change.

Setting #: Relative Value
1 - Same as Factory 100 (same as OEM)
2 - Same as GR2 115 (15% firmer than Factory)
3 - 50% firmer #2 172 (72% firmer than Factory)
4 - 30% firmer #3 223 (123% firmer than Factory)

-= 8 ways adjustable =-

Additional information provided by KYB on their product:
For an eight position adjustable product, the damping force values are approx. the following:
With #2 being Factory at a relative value of 100

#1 = 95 (5% softer than Factory)
#2 = 100 (Factory damping force)
#3 = 107.5 (7.5% firmer than Factory)
#4 = 115 (15% firmer than Factory)
#5 = 143.5 (43.5% firmer than Factory)
#6 = 172 (72% firmer than Factory)
#7 = 197.5 (97.5 firmer than Factory)
#8 = 223 (123 % firmer than Factory)

Hope these info helps.
 

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Old Jul 4, 2009 | 11:58 AM
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would the gr2's give me the same ride or better as oem?
i dont want it too rough or too bouncy.
 
Old Jul 5, 2009 | 12:19 AM
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I agree that GR2's are great as an OEM replacement, although I really can't feel a performance advantage to them- they feel pretty much exactly like stock to me.

I also think the AGX's are your only real choice if you want a 'performance' strut, unless you go custom.

Only reason I still have GR2's on the back of my monte is because they were free when I bought some used coilover mounts.
 
Old Jul 5, 2009 | 07:47 PM
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but i mean will they make the car perform as well even though its lowered?
 



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