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Old Sep 13, 2011 | 09:36 AM
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Question should i buy it???

1972 monte carlo $2200

i am looking for a restoration project?

1972 monte carlo 350/350

 
Old Sep 13, 2011 | 10:18 AM
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It looks like it can be a fun project
 
Old Sep 13, 2011 | 10:24 AM
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i am an absolute sucker for the 1970-1972 monte carlos, i actually loved 2000 since i was like five lol and look what i got now and im a big guy and montes are big cars so i think ill fit quite well, only thing im worried about is, when cars are primed and "ready for paint" primered cars are 80% of the time primered to cover rust, so... ill be extensively looking over her if i look at her soon
 
Old Sep 13, 2011 | 10:27 AM
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That looks like a cool project - I love the 72!
 
Old Sep 13, 2011 | 11:14 AM
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It is true that primer can hide filler which can hide a lot of evils. Get a magnet and use it to find the filler. Magnets won't stick to plastic. Look at the trunk floor and the quarter panels from inside the trunk. It is difficult to hide body work there and most people don't bother. Put the car on a lift and check the frame rails and floor boards. If the floor has been repaired poorly you can bet more of the same in the rest of the car. The price doesn't seem bad for a project car especially if it runs and is complete. I could not view the pics. Also it would be wise to order the catalogs available on first gen Monte Carlos. They will tell you what is available to fix the car and how expensive. I hope you find this helpful. Gregg
 
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Originally Posted by mousehousemoparman
It is true that primer can hide filler which can hide a lot of evils. Get a magnet and use it to find the filler. Magnets won't stick to plastic. Look at the trunk floor and the quarter panels from inside the trunk. It is difficult to hide body work there and most people don't bother. Put the car on a lift and check the frame rails and floor boards. If the floor has been repaired poorly you can bet more of the same in the rest of the car. The price doesn't seem bad for a project car especially if it runs and is complete. I could not view the pics. Also it would be wise to order the catalogs available on first gen Monte Carlos. They will tell you what is available to fix the car and how expensive. I hope you find this helpful. Gregg
this was extremely helpful, and i know about the magnet trick i work in a body shop and the pics, its on a trailer? could be old pics and the car seems extremely solid also so hopefully shes worth it
 
Old Sep 13, 2011 | 12:28 PM
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I say go for it.
 
Old Sep 13, 2011 | 12:36 PM
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I'm glad you found the post helpful. Eastwood sells a magnet with a gauge on it that tells how thick the plastic is. It is good that you work in a body shop. You should be able to get help with anything you don't already know and have access to tools to do the job right. Good luck with your project Monte. Can't wait to see pics.
 
Old Sep 13, 2011 | 01:44 PM
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I'm glad you found the post helpful. Eastwood sells a magnet with a gauge on it that tells how thick the plastic is. It is good that you work in a body shop. You should be able to get help with anything you don't already know and have access to tools to do the job right. Good luck with your project Monte. Can't wait to see pics.

thanks again my friend, and before i got this dream job, i did two years of O.C.M. BOCES (which is me going to highschool for half a day and then going to a seperate facility to work on cars for the rest of the day) that basically started my career choice out.

Then i went through a two year internship at tony rotellas body shop, it was a great experience although no money for two years with that .

Then through boces i heard about wyotech institute and went there for a year, i studied in...
-basic auto collision repair
-advanced auto collision repair
Both classes covered everything from buffing and detailing and painting to frame work and electrical, they covered everything.
-advanced street rod and custom fabrication
This class is strictly for cars from the 30's-79' and we learned all the oldschool techniques like using the english wheel, bead roller, leading, planishing hammer, pullmax, power hammer, "breaks", MIG, TIG, Stick and acetalyne welding. (let me tell you acetalyne welding is not to easy haha)
i also made a custom hood for a old 40's plymouth, that took about a couple of months because i was a baby in the industry at that point lol. also learned painting tricks like pinstriping, fading, stripes, etc. etc.
-advanced trim and upholstery
With this class i learned how to completely refinish interiors in cars such as, headliners suspension and non, dash boards, door panels, seats, carpet, and everything on the inside. i also learned how to fiberglass mold certain interior aspects such as dashes and kicker panels with speakers and what not. also welded a dash with gauges and all. sewing machines to embroidery and raised lettering.

And now i work at performance auto body on 826 west belden avenue in syracuse new york. i am currently painting and installing a body kit on a 2000 BMW 328i CI and let me tell you, cheap body kits are a pain in the *BEEP*... ive completely rebuilt the front end and engine on a 2007 subaru STI which took a while and i am also restoring a 1969 camaro.

my life is pretty good right now and am hoping to have this job for quite a while

sorry for the novel lol
 
Old Sep 14, 2011 | 02:42 AM
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Originally Posted by superrod29
thanks again my friend, and before i got this dream job, i did two years of O.C.M. BOCES (which is me going to highschool for half a day and then going to a seperate facility to work on cars for the rest of the day) that basically started my career choice out.

Then i went through a two year internship at tony rotellas body shop, it was a great experience although no money for two years with that .

Then through boces i heard about wyotech institute and went there for a year, i studied in...
-basic auto collision repair
-advanced auto collision repair
Both classes covered everything from buffing and detailing and painting to frame work and electrical, they covered everything.
-advanced street rod and custom fabrication
This class is strictly for cars from the 30's-79' and we learned all the oldschool techniques like using the english wheel, bead roller, leading, planishing hammer, pullmax, power hammer, "breaks", MIG, TIG, Stick and acetalyne welding. (let me tell you acetalyne welding is not to easy haha)
i also made a custom hood for a old 40's plymouth, that took about a couple of months because i was a baby in the industry at that point lol. also learned painting tricks like pinstriping, fading, stripes, etc. etc.
-advanced trim and upholstery
With this class i learned how to completely refinish interiors in cars such as, headliners suspension and non, dash boards, door panels, seats, carpet, and everything on the inside. i also learned how to fiberglass mold certain interior aspects such as dashes and kicker panels with speakers and what not. also welded a dash with gauges and all. sewing machines to embroidery and raised lettering.

And now i work at performance auto body on 826 west belden avenue in syracuse new york. i am currently painting and installing a body kit on a 2000 BMW 328i CI and let me tell you, cheap body kits are a pain in the *BEEP*... ive completely rebuilt the front end and engine on a 2007 subaru STI which took a while and i am also restoring a 1969 camaro.

my life is pretty good right now and am hoping to have this job for quite a while

sorry for the novel lol
No problem about the novel. I like stories. Lol. I am envious. Most of the skills I learned while working in a salvage yard in northwestern Vermont. It sounds like you have some good schooling under your belt. I wish we lived closer. You could teach me some things. It sounds like you are new in your career. I'd like to give you some advice from a guy that spent twenty or more years in the business. I hope you don't mind. In the body business I have seen a lot of good guys that failed for the following reasons. They were very talented. There seems to be a high percentage of addiction issues, both alcohol and drugs. They both can take you down in no time and waste your talent. The next is the wrong woman. Can't give much advice there other than be careful. Lastly is work safely. Working on cars is dangerous work and you can be seriously hurt or killed in an instant. You will also work with older guys that don't use safety equipment. Do be misled by them. I worked without hearing protection and now have lost some of my hearing. Use your safety glasses and helmets, use safe lifting parctices and wear gloves. It only takes an instant to be injured that lasts a lifetime.
I don't have the talent you do. I can dream it up in my head but don't know how to make it happen. Gregg
 



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