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Old Oct 10, 2009 | 09:54 AM
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Hi Todd, sorry 2 read about your grandfather. I believe, & the seniors I know believe that life should end, when it ends.

We don't believe in holding on when one can not have a quality of life & are just a vegetable or living in constant pain : ( I've lost many seniors that were like family to me, but I was glad that their pain ended & that they were permitted to move on to the next level or their spiritual `journey.

I pray that your grandfather has a pain free exist & that you will be able to honor his human life with dignity & love. I wish you peace of mind....Prayers/thoughts 2 U & yours....from the Kid & his Beach Family....
 

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Old Oct 10, 2009 | 09:56 AM
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Todd... keeping someone alive just because u would miss them on this earth is never a good thing. Sure he's not the family pet, he's grandpa but it's the same difference. It's selfish. If grandpa wouldn't be happy doing chemo and if chemo makes him worse than it makes him better I think grandpa should have the choice. If he can fish, hunt, etc without the chemo, then so be it. Everybody has their time. And here I am complaining about the fact that I have to eat out of the wheel of death at work today....

Sorry todd. I know that is not much advice but I hope it helps.
 
Old Oct 10, 2009 | 10:22 AM
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mornin all... look what i woke up to...



This the view outa jacks room
 
Old Oct 10, 2009 | 12:42 PM
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Afternoon Everyone.

Today Lisa is 31 Today. Going to make her favorite dinner today. Cutting up some wood and doing some painting. just made me something tribal. Started out as a tattoo and well i cut it out in Ash and painted it black. I'll upload the pic later.

Todd. I know its hard, but sometimes you have to follow your heart. Even if it not the choice you really want to make. God will show you the path. He kinda knows what he's doing.
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mornin all... look what i woke up to...



This the view outa jacks room
You woke up to a fence?

Space, great to hear from you again man. hjope everything is going well in your side of the Universe.

Wayne, always a pleasure to hear your words of inspirations
 
Old Oct 10, 2009 | 12:47 PM
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Im trying to figure this out and Itd be awesome to get your guys help. So I want to got supercharged. Ive got an l36 with about 130k miles, and im doing a top swap, Ive got about $500 in parts already. But I still need heads and a bunch of other parts.
A guy locally is selling an l67 with 135k miles. Im debating if I should just do a whole motor swap and put on the newer parts that I have. Then Ill have less tuning issues. Id also make a bit less hp with less compression, but then I could follow better pulley size guidlines and have less worry about knock. Besides Id be using the rest of the parts from his l67 to do my engine.

So what do i do

L67 swap (if i do this i can put my l36 in my old grand prix too)
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Old Oct 10, 2009 | 02:43 PM
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Thanks for your kind words and advice everyone. I am in agreement with you that quality of life is more important than quantity. Grandpa is doing good today and we did some yard work. I just fear that my aunt and her family are pumping him full of hope that they will cure his cancer and he will live 30 more years. he is 84 and has a wonderful life. He has recovered from his hospital visit, but still needs someone to help him with the house. I would prefer he spends money traveling then on hospital stays because the chemo is poisoning his body.

On a lighter note I am off to watch Oregon State University beat Stanford. Later all.
 
Old Oct 10, 2009 | 04:02 PM
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Afternoon Everyone.

you woke up to a fence?
lol no JJ i was talking about that White stuff that starts with a s
 
Old Oct 10, 2009 | 04:44 PM
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Todd, sorry to hear about your grandpa. It's never an easy decision to make but we all have to try and remember to do what's right for the person, not what we want. Do we want them to go, no but is it right to put them through all of that just so they'll be with us a little longer. I realize that's exactly what your saying just wanna show you that yet another person agrees with what your saying.

And I agree completly, he spent his life earning money and now they're trying to spend all his money keeping him around longer in a state that he won't want to be in. Spend that money going and seeing things he always wanted to. Hope your aunts will see the light and let him live the time he has left the way that he should.

Oh and to the rest of you, hope you've had a good day so far and have a great remainder of the weekend.

Space, great to see you once again. Looks like more and more people here are needing your words and encouragement. Many people have tried to pick-up the slack while you're gone but there is no substitute for the original!
 
Old Oct 10, 2009 | 05:08 PM
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Todd sorry to hear about your grandpa, I hope the right decision is made.. I think space put it into the best words....
 
Old Oct 10, 2009 | 06:11 PM
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Evening everyone.
Space, good to see your posts, even if it isn't as often,
JJ, Tell Lisa "Happy Birthday" from LadyT and me.
Todd, life on earth as we know it is short. Some don't make it to a year old, some to there teens, 20's, 30's, and so on. My Mom is 90, and Dad is almost 93. My uncle (Dad's older brother) is 94, and lost his wife earlier this year, at 93. I heard of a guy a week ago that passed at 115! We had a Church lady pass last week at 82.
At 84 your Uncle has had a full life, but is he ready for moving on? I'm going to get slightly religious on ya, cuz I honestly know no other way to say this. Is your Uncle "born again"? Does he have a relationship with God the Father? With Jesus? We have an earthly father, and we have God the Father. IMHO, the best thing you can do for him is to make SURE that he WILL make it into Heaven. I remember what an elderly black minister said to us a year ago when he filled in for a while: "Born once, die twice. Born twice, die once."
I hope this makes sense. It's not about the quality of life now, but the quality of life for the eternity after death. I don't normally get religious on this forum, but death is such an important transition, that I hate to hear about someone passing, and not having that relationship needed with God AND Jesus. Most people believe in Heaven and hell, and the fact that you will go one way or the other. I will pray for him AND you AND your Aunts. End of getting religious on you. I hope I didn't offend anyone, cuz that wasn't my intention, and I'm sorry if I did, but sometimes I have to tell it like is is, with no sugar coating.

At the same time, remember that both he and your Aunts have been around WAY longer than both of us put together (I think), and they have a relationship that they don't want to lose, and I can understand where they are coming from. My Mom has had hospice for the last 3 months now. That was the BEST thing that has happened to her AND my Dad in a LONG time. Hospice has added a MAJOR improvement in "quality of life". MAJOR improvement. I highly suggest that your family look for a GOOD hospice organazition, as some aren't as good as others.
 

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