Let me get this straight....
#11
TBH, I wouldn't expect a modern Monte that was true to its luxury roots to be much cheaper than a SS with a RWD V8. Just a bare bones V8 car from any of the big 3 right now starts in the high $30s completely stripped. Add in a few upgrades and 'personal luxury' items to make it a Monte, and $50k isnt that far away. Even an optioned up SS Camaro can get to $50k without touching the ZL1 packages. Swap some of the performance stuff for some luxury parts out of Cadlillac's parts bin and you're in the same boat for price.
I just cant imagine the line for $45 or 50k Montes would be significantly higher than the number of people that lined up for a SS.
That's why I really think if they did bring it back, it would be a lot closer to something like a Regal than to a Camaro.
I just cant imagine the line for $45 or 50k Montes would be significantly higher than the number of people that lined up for a SS.
That's why I really think if they did bring it back, it would be a lot closer to something like a Regal than to a Camaro.
#12
At the end of the day, it's like Maniac was saying it's just name badge slapping at that point, there's no real lineage at all.
Last edited by bumpin96monte; 06-24-2019 at 07:12 PM.
#13
That's kind of my point with the Regal comment. If they did bring the Monte back, it wouldn't be a LT powered RWD platform, it would probably be a 2.0L FWD like the Regal / MKZ. It would still make the purists mad because it's not RWD (and likely wouldn't even be a V6 - both the MKZ and Regal are nearly $50k with a V6). I still think it would be very unlikely to be a 2 door either as that's pushing it into a niche.
At the end of the day, it's like Maniac was saying it's just name badge slapping at that point, there's no real lineage at all.
At the end of the day, it's like Maniac was saying it's just name badge slapping at that point, there's no real lineage at all.
This photo is courtesy of Pinterest, but something like this would be perfect minus whats going on with the hood. Those flares make this car look great!
#14
I agree making the MC FWD was a horrible choice, hence why they didn't use the new Impala model as a 2 door MC because it would compete too much. Who gives a damn about competition when all cars come from the same manufacturer and they're all successful with sales? Sounds to me like they're missing so much money through favoritism.
This is the same issue GM ran into with having 4 or 5 models of the same car across its brands in the early 00s. It had to foot the bill for 5x the cost (minus whatever core structure they shared), but didn't get anywhere near 5x the sales of any single model as they were all eating each others lunch.
#15
But as with the above discussion, even if they made exactly that - would you still buy it if it was a 2.0L FWD? If not, would you be willing to pay $50k for it if it were V8 & RWD?
Connecting that lineage to keep enthusiast buyers engaged is a tough sell, especially given that theyve already had a few generations of something radically different. Like with the new Regal - I can't imagine theyve got more than a couple percent of 80s Regal owners that bought the new one because of the name.
#16
Not a fan personally. I really dislike mixing boxy elements (ie the 80s body shell) with curvy components. Just doesn't visually flow well to me.
But as with the above discussion, even if they made exactly that - would you still buy it if it was a 2.0L FWD? If not, would you be willing to pay $50k for it if it were V8 & RWD?
Connecting that lineage to keep enthusiast buyers engaged is a tough sell, especially given that theyve already had a few generations of something radically different. Like with the new Regal - I can't imagine theyve got more than a couple percent of 80s Regal owners that bought the new one because of the name.
But as with the above discussion, even if they made exactly that - would you still buy it if it was a 2.0L FWD? If not, would you be willing to pay $50k for it if it were V8 & RWD?
Connecting that lineage to keep enthusiast buyers engaged is a tough sell, especially given that theyve already had a few generations of something radically different. Like with the new Regal - I can't imagine theyve got more than a couple percent of 80s Regal owners that bought the new one because of the name.
With the way the economy is now, it's going to be hard to hold nostalgic value while trying to garner the interest of new generations to appeal to while making it affordable. We're in such a tough spot being fans of this car although I feel like I might be expecting too much.
#18
It's a great car, but I believe my impression of a new MC is like a trail mix of cars. I see a new MC with sweeping body lines like the new Impala that dont interrupt the trademark body lines that everyone associate with the MC namesake, redone tail lights that blend into the trunk like the charger or MKZ, and a very noticeable yet elegant front fascia like the new Cadillac's CT series. I might have to do a few sketches to see what you all think.
#19
Didn't at all mean to imply they're bad cars, hopefully it didn't come across like that. My point was more that by slapping the Regal name on it, they're not pulling in all kinds of old school Regal enthusiasts. They could've named it just about anything and it would likely sell just about as well as it currently does.
#20
Didn't at all mean to imply they're bad cars, hopefully it didn't come across like that. My point was more that by slapping the Regal name on it, they're not pulling in all kinds of old school Regal enthusiasts. They could've named it just about anything and it would likely sell just about as well as it currently does.
I feel like they should do the same thing they did with the Camaro for the MC; draw inspiration from it's lineage and legacy, and create something that resonates with ALL generations. This way it has the ability for a larger fanbase because the appeal is so high. It has to be a 4 door RWD V8...give it more individuality and make it less Impala-esque.