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Member's, which classic would `you like to own ?
Post & let us know `OK...I still love the ZR`1...

I don't know `if I will ever own one, but I hope someday to be able to test drive one : )
p.s. I think the Monte Carlo is already a "Classic" It was born a "Classic"

Could these 10 performance models be tomorrow's collectibles? We think so.(But, space isn't sure ? : )

<CITE sizcache="41" sizset="129">By Kirk Bell of MSN Auto's</CITE>



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You've probably heard that the value of a new car depreciates 50 percent as soon as it's driven off the dealer's lot. That's not entirely true. If it were, it wouldn't make any financial sense to buy a new car. However, the value of a new car does, in fact, depreciate the moment you leave the dealership. But by how much? That varies by automobile, but the average is about 9 percent, and after a year, a new car's value will decrease by about 20 percent.
What if you could buy a car that wouldn't lose its value, or might even appreciate over time?
Bing: New Collectible Cars
We're at a unique point in automotive history, one that might create more demand and value for collector cars in the future. The horsepower race has escalated to where V6 pony cars and family sedans develop 300 horsepower, tuned sport sedans top 500 and some sports cars exceed 600.
But a couple of new wrinkles could quickly scuttle that progress. Government regulations call for the average fuelefficiency of automakers' fleets to reach 34.1 mpg by 2016 and an amazing 54.5 mpg by 2025. That could spell the end for many of today's powerful but thirsty beasts, meaning we've reached the zenith of the pursuit of horsepower. If that's the case, many of today's powerful and attractive cars could become highly sought-after collectibles in 10, 15 or 20 years. : ) Member's, better get one now: )

Here we speculate on 10 current cars that could become tomorrow's classics. The list was chosen on four basic criteria: power, performance, looks and rarity. There's no guarantee that any one of these cars will appreciate, but if you buy one you're sure to have a fun time finding out if it does.
Looking for a new or used car? Try MSN Autos' powerful new Decision Guide.
2011 BMW 1-Series M

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BMW 1-Series M Coupe




Start with an excellent chassis and suspension, add a powerful twin-turbocharged 6-cylinder engine and a host of menacing if excessive aerodynamic add-ons, and you have one hot little performance machine. That engine is a 335-horsepower version of BMW's N54 3.0-liter inline-six. Due to emissions considerations, the N54 is not scheduled to return next year, making the 1-Series M a one-hit wonder. That will limit sales to only 800 to 1,000 cars, which is the perfect formula for a true collectible.
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2008-2012 BMW M3

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2011 BMW M3 Coupe




BMW has announced that the next generation of the M3 will feature turbocharged 6-cylinder power. That means the high-tech, high-revving 414-horsepower 4.0-liter V8 engine in the current M3 will be history, making the V8 M3s almost certain collectibles. The M3 is offered as a coupe, sedan and convertible with prices that start at $55,900, but the most collectible body style should be the sleek coupe. Of that group, the $79,650 Frozen Black coupe, with its menacing flat-black paint, will be the rarest, as it is limited to a run of just 20 cars.
Compare: BMW M3 vs. Audi S5 vs. Lexus IS F
2010-2012 Cadillac CTS-V Coupe

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Ten years ago, nobody thought Cadillac could build a car to compete with BMW. Not only is Cadillac now doing just that, it's trumping the legendary M3 by 142 horsepower with the CTS-V, which is offered in sedan, wagon and coupe form. The most appealing of the group is the sleek and sexy coupe, which starts at $62,215. Performance is phenomenal: zero to 60 mph in 4.3 seconds, a quarter-mile time of 12.6 seconds and a top speed of 191 mph. But the CTS-V wraps those iron-fist numbers in the silk glove of Cadillac refinement and luxury. This vehicle has the perfect mix of power, performance and good looks.
Watch Video: 2011 Cadillac CTS-V Coupe
2010-2012 Chevrolet Corvette ZR-1

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Chevrolet Corvette ZR-1





The history of the Corvette is peppered with legendary high-performance models: The Z06, L88 and the original ZR1 of 1990 to 1995 come to mind. But the king of them all is the 2010 to 2012 ZR1. A supercharged 6.2-liter push-rod V8engine puts out an earth-shaking 638 horsepower and 604 lb-ft of torque. Zero to 60 mph whizzes by in 3.3 seconds, the quarter-mile takes just 11.2 seconds and top speed is 200 mph. The ZR1 is a supercar with the everyday reliability of a Chevrolet. The price may be steep at $110,300, but it should hold up over time, because it costs less than half that of a comparable Ferrari or Lamborghini.
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2010-2012 Ford F-150 SVT Raptor

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Ford F-150 SVT Raptor





Ford has offered SVT-bred performance pickups since the 1990s, but those vehicles performed only in a straight line. The current SVT, the Raptor, has plenty of grunt, with a 411-horsepower 6.2-liter V8engine, but it also offers off-road capability along the lines of the trucks used to scout out courses before off-road races. The off-road bona fides include Fox Racing Shocks, 35-inch all-terrain tires, an electronic locking rear differential, and 11.2 inches of suspension travel up front and 13.4 inches in the rear. Buy one, don't beat it too harshly and you'll have a collectible years from now.
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2012 Ford Mustang Boss 302 Laguna Seca

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Ford Mustang Boss 302 Laguna Seca





The Mustang is a common collectible, with 1960s performance models going for big bucks on the auction circuit. Ford has upped the ante on performance in recent years with Bullitt, Shelby GT500 and now Boss 302 models. While the Shelby models have more power, the 440-horsepower Boss 302, priced at $40,310, is the best Mustang ever, and the $6,995 Laguna Seca package makes it an even better performer. Meant for track use, the Laguna Seca features increased body stiffness, a firmer chassis setup and a race-bred aerodynamics package. Both Bosses should be collectible, but the lower production Laguna Seca will be the model that collectors will covet.
Read: 2012 Mustang Boss 302 — Road Test
2011-2012 Mercedes-Benz SLS AMG

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Mercedes-Benz SLS AMG




One of the most prized collector cars of all time is the 1955 Mercedes-Benz 300 SL, known affectionately as the Gullwing for its upward-opening doors. It can command more than $1 million at auction. For the 2011 model year, Mercedes introduced a modern Gullwing, the SLS AMG. With 563 pavement-searing horses under the hood, an aluminum space frame and a superbly balanced front midengine design (with the engine placed behind the front wheels), the SLS AMG is a race car for the street, but it is also happy to toddle along in traffic, menacing the lesser cars. With a price tag of $183,000, it's no wonder only 928 have been sold since its release last year. That just makes this ultracool 2-seater even rarer.
View Pictures: 2011 Mercedes-Benz SLS AMG
2009-2012 Nissan GT-R

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Nissan GT-R





The insectlike GT-R, a legend in Japan but virtually unknown on these shores, immediately announced itself with authority when Nissan finally brought it to the United States for the 2009 modelyear. With its twin-turbocharged 450-horsepower engine, it put up performance numbers rivaling a supercar. Horsepower has since been boosted to 530 and the initial price of $76,840 has risen to $89,950, but it's still a performance bargain. Try these figures on for size: zero to 60 mph in 2.9 seconds, an 11.1-second quarter-mile and a top speed of 197 mph. Only the Corvette ZR1 delivers comparable numbers for a similar price. With only 5,136 cars sold through August 2011, it's awfully rare, too.
View Slideshow: Sports Cars: Best Bang for the Buck
2010-2012 Porsche Boxster Spyder

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Porsche Boxster Spyder





A higher performance, lightweight version of Porsche's midengine roadster, the Boxster Spyder is incredibly rewarding to drive, but its unique drop-top limits its everyday appeal and therefore sales. The top doesn't really shut out the elements, and it takes at least a couple of minutes to put it on or take it off. However, with an extra 10 horsepower, for a total of 330, and tighter suspension settings than the standard Boxster, the Boxster Spyder is a car you'd want to own for a long time or buy when you can afford one. It is a toy, seriously. The best way to own this car is to take off the top, keep it in the garage and enjoy it on a sunny day every chance you get.
Watch Video: Porsche Boxster Spyder
2011 Porsche 911 GT3 RS 4.0

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Porsche 911 GT3 RS 4.0





The fifth-generation of the 911, code 997, is set to be replaced next year. When historians look back at the 997, they'll view the GT3 RS 4.0 as the best of the breed. Limited to 600 examples, each for a tidy $185,000, this model gets the lightweight treatment of other GT3 RSs, plus carbon-fiber body panels, along with front air deflectors and a double rear wing to create loads of down force. Under the hood, it features the most powerful, naturally aspirated 911 engine ever, a 4.0-liter flat-six that cranks out 500 horsepower and 339 lb-ft of torque. Buy one now, keep the mileage low, and you'll have a retirement nest egg in 25 years.
Bing Images: Porsche 911 GT3 RS 4.0
2012 Volkswagen Golf R

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Volkswagen Golf R




The Volkswagen R32 was offered in two runs of 5,000 vehicles in 2004 and 2008, and both caught on as prized collectibles. The 2012 VW Golf R is the next in this line of hot hatches. With the next generation of the Golf due in 2012, the Golf R is likely a one-and-done proposition; production is again limited to 5,000. Expected to sell for just under $35,000, the U.S. version will be a deal compared with the European car, which sells in the mid-$50,000 range. The Golf R's combination of 260 horsepower and razor-sharp handling makes it a sure bet for a good automotive investment.
Compare: Volkswagen Golf vs. Ford Focus vs. Toyota Corolla
Kirk Bell has served as the associate publisher for Consumer Guide Automotive and editor of Scale Auto Enthusiast magazine. A Midwest native, Bell brings 18 years of automotive journalism experience to MSN, and currently contributes to JDPower.com and Kelley Blue Book's kbb.com.

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Id deff say the viper will be they dont depreciate much than they go back up in value after a few years
 
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On that list I would say the Mustang, the Corvette, and the Cadillac
 
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The Mustangs, Camaros, Challengers, some Chargers, Corvettes, Vipers, Prowlers are all going to be collectible. The Porche, the Mercedes, and the BMW's are somewhat exotic and always will have a following but will never be main stream collectible.
 
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Top 10 Classic Cars
By Debbie Murphy/autoMedia.com

"Classic" is a relative term. Technically speaking, the only real guideline is age: A car has to reach 25 to warrant the designation. For some enthusiasts, the term is reserved for Stutz Bearcats; for others, it's that rusty thing in the garage, on blocks with its insides strewn about in mid-autopsy.

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Chevrolet Corvettes, 1966 to 1982
Chevy started production on the Corvette, labeled the poor man's supercar for its combination of raw power and affordability, in 1953. By 1966, the Corvette was at the end of its second generation, powered by a 396-cube big block that punished all comers with 425 horsepower. The third generation, patterned after Chevy's Mako Shark designed by Larry Shinoda, was inadvertently introduced as a Hot Wheels model. While the styling changed subtly over the next 16 years, the power declined to 200 hp with the move to unleaded gas, emission controls and catalytic converters. Only recently have we seen the return of those golden years of mega-horsepower, ensuring that today's Corvette's will eventually be classics as well.

Ford Mustang, 1964 to 1969
The first Mustang rolled off the assembly line in Dearborn, Michigan, on March 9, 1964, and into the hearts of then teenaged baby boomers. The chassis, suspension and drivetrain were taken from the much less exciting Falcon, but the Mustang earned immediate attention, including Motor Trend's Car of the Year and a spot as the 1964 Indy 500 Pace Car. The '64 was powered by an inline 6-cylinder engine rated at 105 horsepower and included a long list of options so each owner had the sense of a custom car. Just one year after its introduction, Ford put bigger engines in its new pony, maxing out with a 225 horsepower 289ci powerplant. By the early '70s, the Mustang platform went from compact to midsize.

Chevrolet Impala, 1958 to 1967
The early Impalas were a celebration of tail fins. Following a one-of-a-kind introduction in 1956, the Impala took its official place at the top of the Chevy line two years later, offered as an upscale trim package to the Bel Air coupes and convertibles. That first year, engine options ranged from a 234 horsepower six cylinder to a 315 horsepower Super Turbo Thrust. "Impala" became its own line with more size and maxed out batwing rear fenders in 1959. By 1961, however, the tail fins were basically gone and the styling became more subtle as engineering concentrated on performance. By 1967, the Impala had regained some of its size and weight with a pronounced fastback roof design and a maximum 385 horsepower V-8.

Chevrolet Camaro, 1968 to 1969
Chevy's musclecar was introduced in 1967 in response to the popularity of Ford's Mustang. The most sought-after model years represent the first generation of the Camaro. The top of the line trim package, the Z28, included a 6.5-liter, 350 horsepower V-8 big block. The following year, the drivetrain stayed the same, but the design went sportier with a lower, wider, more aggressive stance and engine options that included a 7.0-liter, 425 horsepower V-8. The '69 model year went all the way to December of that year due to production problems with the onset of the second-generation Camaro. Recently, Chevrolet trotted out a concept car that hearkens back to the Camaro's early days in an effort to recapture some lost youth and excitement.
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Chevrolet Nova, 1963 to 1972
The Nova SS, introduced in 1962 as the Chevy II, became the manufacturer's bid for the compact, budget, musclecar market. The Super Sport package introduced in '63 was purely aesthetics. The idea of real performance didn't come to fruition until 1964 with a V-8 option. With the low curb weight of the Nova, the bigger engine added considerably to its performance credibility. The Nova officially joined the musclecar ranks in 1966 with new styling and a 350 horsepower engine. Chevy gave this L79 engine to its new Camaro in '67. From that point on, the Nova, considered the ultimate sleeper, took a back seat to the Camaro. In '72, the SS package coughed up just 200 horsepower and, although the Nova continued through 1976, the '72 model was basically the end of the Nova as a high-performance ride.

Chevrolet Chevelle, 1966 to 1973
Do you see a trend here? Chevy dominated the musclecar era with the Chevelle representing the midsize (as compared to the budget Nova and more muscular Camaro) entry. By 1966, the 396 engine was standard in the Chevelle SS package with its distinctive simulated scoops that became its signature. In '67, politics robbed the Chevelle of 10 horsepower in its top-of-the-line L34 engine. Company policy dictated that only the Corvette would be allowed to generate more than one horsepower per 10 pounds of curb weight. The following year, the Chevelle was restyled with a longer hood and shorter deck. The Chevelle's performance topped out in 1970 with a new 454 engine, the LS5, and 360 horsepower, the highest factory rating ever. By 1971, musclecars were on the wane taking the Chevelle with it.

Chevrolet Monte Carlo, 1970 to 1978
This two-door coupe has been one of GM's biggest successes on the NASCAR stock car racing circuit. Built on Chevy's A platform, the design, executed by Elliot Estes, general manager, and Dave Holls, chief stylist, merged the Cadillac Eldorado and Chevelle. Initially, the standard engine was a 350ci small-block V-8 rated at 250 horsepower. Most styling revisions finished out the first generation of the Monte Carlo. In 1973, all GM intermediates, including the Monte Carlo, were redesigned. The Monte Carlo was now a pillared coupe rather than a hardtop, with rear opera windows, frameless door glass and dual headlights flanked by an egg-crate grille. Some of the innovations for '73 included standard radial-ply tires, Pliacell shocks and high-caster steering. For the next four years, the coupe went through modest styling changes, followed by radical downsizing in 1978 with the standard engine reduced to a V-6.

Cadillac DeVille, 1955 to 1965
The early classic years for the Cadillac included the tailfins and wraparound windshields made popular by GM styling chief Harley Earl and inspired by the twin rudders of the Lockheed P38 Lightning. The other distinctive design feature was the Cadillac's front bumper design, known as Dagmars (for the voluptuous actress of the same name), with artillery shell-shaped bumper guards. While other sedans lost the tailfins in the late 1950s, Cadillac held onto the style feature until 1964. Cadillac started out in the early 1900s and became quickly known for top-of-the-line luxury sedans.

Chevrolet Pickups, 1950-1971
Chevy went through a number of truck eras that span the years identified as classics. In 1947 the company went to truck owners to figure out what improvements were needed: This started the Advanced Design era that lasted through the mid '50s. The revisions focused on larger, more comfortable truck cabs. The Chevy half-ton trucks of the '50s were 6-cylinder, 90-horsepower vehicles and led the industry in sales. The V-8 didn't appear until the late '50s, during the Task Force era, and then only as an option. During the '60s, Chevy engineers worked on the suspension systems to smooth out the ride. The big change hit in 1967 when the pickups transitioned from utilitarian workhorses to high-style vehicles.

Mercedes Benz 450, 1975 to 1979
While other auto manufacturers were downsizing in the 1970s, Mercedes upped the ante with the 6.9-liter 450 SEL that included such lush options as a car phone, a true precursor of the future. The 450 was also available as an SE model with a shorter wheelbase. With the 6.9 engine generating 286 horsepower, the sedan was touted for its sports car performance. The '78 model introduced the anti-lock brake system to the automotive world. The SEL sold just over 7,000 units in its four-year run, with most of those in the U.S.
 

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I would like a CTS-V,a Corvette or a Viper not necessarily in that order.
 
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i think a lot of underrated cars of today will be considered classics. even the Monte.


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