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Provided by Automobile 2015 Chevrolet Camaro SS Ultimate Track Concept Front View In Motion
Pahrump, Nevada -- While the 2014 Specialty Equipment Market Association (SEMA) show features dozens of aftermarket companies eager to help you soup up your car, Chevrolet hopes owners of its Gen V Camaro (2010-2015) will instead turn to their nearest dealership for go-fast hardware. Here at Spring Mountain Motorsports park, Chevrolet Performance showed us two Camaro concepts fitted with dealer-installed upgrade parts.
Chevrolet Performance wants to offer a wide range of parts from its high-performance variants -- the Camaro 1LE, ZL1, and Z/28 -- so owners of older V-6 and V-8 SS models can upgrade their cars with improved handling and braking. While customers can -- of course -- pick and choose parts individually, the SEMA concepts shown here have a specific list of upgrades designed for particular types of driving.
“We take the mystery out of going fast,” Chevrolet director of performance parts Mark Dickens says. “Customers can build a car to suit their driving interests.”

Testing Camaros back to back

Chevrolet brought stock and modified versions of the Camaro to Spring Mountain Motorsports resort for back-to-back comparisons. We start our lead-follow session around a 1.5-mile configuration at Spring Mountain's expansive track in a standard 2015 Chevrolet Camaro SS to give us a baseline. As we recalled from prior encounters with the Camaro SS, the car is loud and fast, and it grips the road, too, but there’s a level of vagueness in the steering feedback and in the way the body rolls on the suspension that keeps this street racer from being a scintillating track car.

The Ultimate Street Performance Camaro SS concept shows drastic improvements. The most important modifications include stiffer anti-roll bars, a strut-tower brace, and 20-inch wheels with Goodyear Eagle F1 Supercar G:1 tires from the Camaro 1LE, plus a high-flow air intake, tougher wheel hubs, and larger brakes from the Camaro ZL1.
The new suspension transforms the way the Camaro transitions between corners. Turn-in is quicker, the car takes a set into a corner without first rolling and pitching (Chevrolet claims 25 percent less body roll), and the car has a much more neutral feel entering a corner. We can brake later, thanks to the confidence imbued by the firmer pedal, and get on the power sooner because we sense the rear tires are better planted. This is how we'd want our Camaro SS set up for track use: predictable, taut, and willing to attack corners.
At the Chevrolet’s Milford Road Course handling track in Michigan, test drivers report the Street Performance Camaro SS is nearly 6 seconds quicker than a standard car, recording a lap time of 1:59.3.

Let’s get serious with the track variant

The next step up is the Ultimate Track Camaro SS concept, which as the name suggests is far more oriented to the track than the open road. From the catalog of parts used to create the Chevrolet Camaro Z/28, this concept car gets a free-flowing intake and exhaust for the V-8 engine, a helical limited-slip differential with racier 3.91:1 final-drive ratio and a differential cooler, Multimatic's expensive DSSV (Dynamic Suspension Spool Valve) dampers, brake-cooling air ducts, and an aero package claimed to produce downforce.

From the Camaro ZL1 come upgraded brakes and stronger wheel hubs. From the Camaro 1LE come wheels and tires. And from the Chevy Performance catalog comes an LS3 Power Upgrade kit that comprises ported cylinder heads, new camshafts, and a reprogrammed engine computer.

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The Ultimate Track Camaro SS car set a record lap on the Milford Road Course time of 1:56.4, pretty close to the 1:53.7 lap cut by the $75,000 Camaro Z/28.


More than just loud

Once behind the wheel of the UT Camaro, it’s easy to notice the throbbing idle that new cylinder heads, cams, and programming have given the 6.2-liter LS3 V-8, while the Z/28 exhausts let it roar like the Corvette Stingray. There's 30-40 hp more than the stock V-8’s 426 hp, and the redline climbs from 6,500 rpm to 7,000 rpm.

Yet the real revelation is the way this Camaro goes around corners. For starters, it is significantly tauter and exhibits nearly zero body roll, largely due to spring rates that are stiffer than those of the regular Camaro SS by 85 percent in front and 65 percent in the rear. In addition, the excellent DSSV dampers that help make the Camaro Z/28 so capable transform the way the SS coupe settles itself both in the transitions between corners and over the many elevation changes of the Spring Mountain track. It all makes for a Camaro that laps with the composure and sophistication of a more expensive sports car.
We can also feel a major difference in the car’s personality, thanks to the helical-type limited-slip differential. As you lift the throttle on entry to a corner, the differential unlocks and helps the Camaro swing toward the apex of the corner, and indeed we can cut a much tighter cornering line without adding any more steering input. Put your foot down, the diff locks up and the car's line noticeably straightens, letting you power out of a turn far earlier than in the Camaro street car.

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Hey, we’re human, too

All this capability, however, can make drivers overconfident. Well, it made us overconfident, anyway.

On our second lap, we exit one sweeping right turn with too much throttle, and as the differential tightens up, and we perform a lurid slide that leaves black marks on the track behind us. Before we have time to feel embarrassed, the driver behind us does exactly the same thing as our lead-follow instructor laughs over the radio.
We say our over-exuberance is a testament to how much confidence the chassis gives drivers. Chevy engineers say they'd only recommend this setup to true track-rats, who would likely swap out the tires for something stickier and then fully disable the stability control.

Why buy?

One glaring question remains: Why would muscle-car fans pony up for these parts rather than simply buying a more capable Camaro, or heading to the aftermarket?

For starters, Chevrolet hopes buyers who already own a fifth-gen Camaro will appreciate that they can simply enhance their existing car rather than buying a brand-new one. The parts also go through the same grueling 24-hour endurance testing at the Milford Road Course that Chevrolet uses for all its performance cars.
Compared to aftermarket parts, the Chevrolet Performance upgrades can be installed at your dealer and -- according to Chevy's math -- cost less than what you could buy elsewhere. Chevrolet says all the upgrade necessary to build the Ultimate Track Camaro SS would only cost $13,000 before installation. The priciest component is the $3,876 Z/28 suspension kit, and no aftermarket company can offer Camaro owners the pricey DSSV dampers it includes. “Having this portfolio of performance parts allows us to grow with our customers,” Dickens says. “So now you can focus the (modified) vehicle on track-day use, 100 percent.”
Chevrolet officials admit that sales of these parts will probably be pretty limited. Even so, it's great to see a company catering to enthusiasts who want to take their cars to the track
 
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Besides Chevrolet abundance of tri 5's

Keepn it Old School!

This was one Impressive 1963 Imapala SS
Impressive 409 Tri power...
My sister inlaw had one that was in Mint condition (Triple Black) that was stolen in 1964
right out of her driveway in Rochester Hills.. I'd kill to have the one she owned... Bucket seats, channel shift Tilt wheel..full power! Red striped tiger paw tires. (Anyone remember those?)
This is/was to me the badass ride for 1963!

 
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Curbside Classic: 1963 Chevrolet Impala SS 409 – Giddyup, Giddyup 409

BY PAUL NIEDERMEYER
– OCTOBER 16, 2013

She’s real fine, my 409... Well, I guess I rather blew it with my ’64 Chevy CC, seeing as I used only the lyrics of a song for the text (it was very late that night). Because if ever a car was immortalized by a song, this is it. So now I’ll have to actually write something original about the ’63 Impala SS 409. Like taking a good look at that legendary motor under the hood. Or whether the ’63 Impala is better looking than the ’61. Or how about the fact that it seems to inspire women to take their clothes off in its proximity more than any other car?
Well, not in 1963. But do a Google Image search for 1963 Impala, and be prepared. Giddyup, giddyup 409. We’ll, I’m not going to post any of those here, because I know how distracting that sort of thing can be when we have important historical work to do. Engines are the topic of the day, the 409 in particular. Almost as good as near-naked women.

There’s obviously something about the ’63 Impala coupe that seems to inspire women; or is it the men that pose them with it? Well, it’s a beaut! There’s no denying it, and undoubtedly many consider it the best of the bunch (1961-1964), if not the best looking Chevy ever. It’s certainly going down in history that way…try finding a genuine Curbside Classic ’63 Impala SS, with a 409, no less. I’d long given up hope on that, but then, there it was.
At first glance, I almost kept walking…I just don’t do the typical car-show-cruise-in-mobile-resto-mod kind of ’63 Chevy. I want to remember how they looked and felt in my childhood; isn’t that what CC is largely about? And I want to find them sitting parked on the street. But on closer examination, this one just made the grade, despite the non-stock wheels. At least they weren’t donks, tiny low rider wire wheels, or resto-mod giants. I can live with these.
I was also just a wee bit suspicious when I saw the 409 badge on its front fender. But a closer look put me more at ease. Somebody wouldn’t slap a bent 409 badge on a 327 Imapala SS, would they? Do you know what magic that little set of three numerals meant to me in 1963? Seeing a 409 back then in Iowa City was a really big-bore deal, and I always kept a lookout for that possibility, thanks to youthful sharp eyes that could spot those little numerals a half mile away. The first one I saw was a station wagon, wouldn’t you know. And with the Powerglide, no less.

That’s because the overwhelming majority of 409s weren’t all that hot. I’m speaking of the 340 hp version, which had a pretty mild hydraulic cam, modest valves and ports, 10.0:1 compression, and a family-sized four barrel carburetor. It had plenty of grunt where it counted, to haul a wagon-load of kids and stuff up the Rockies on vacation, Powerglide and all. (this engine shot is from Tom’s ’64 409 CC).
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The 409 was the next stage of evolution of the Chevy “W” engine, which debuted in 1958 with 348 cubic inches.We did its full story here. It’s a rather unusual engine, in that it doesn’t share anything in common with the famous Chevy small block V8, most of all in its cylinder head design. The top of the block is angled, and the whole combustion chamber is in the bore.
Which means that the cylinder head is quite perfectly flat. This one is from a hi-po 409, showing off its larger valves. And as can be seen from the cross-section above, the valves are staggered, reducing the length of the corresponding port. Those staggered valves also result in the distinctive scalloped valve covers on these engines.
So here’s the real deal, the top of the line 425 hp version, with twin four barrels, big valve heads, 11.0:1 compression, and a mean and lumpy mechanical lifter cam. There was also a 400 hp version, with just one carb. Some say the 348 and 409 have a distinctive exhaust sound, because of those heads. I can’t swear by it, but I did hear a guy’s tri-power 348 a while back as he was showing it off, and there seems to be something to that. Or maybe it’s brain washing. Either way, one of these motors at full chat is a sound to behold.
If a 409/425 wasn’t fast enough, you just had to sidle up to your friendly Chevy dealer and have him order you up a Z-11. This was a drag-race special, with the engine enlarged to 427 cubic inches, and stuffed full of goodies. That resulted in a laughable 5 hp rated increase, to 430 hp. But hp ratings back then were mostly useless anyway.
The Z-11 package cost an extra $1240, which was about a 50% increase over a base Impala coupe. But it was a steal, considering it included a race-ready engine, T-10 four speed, a front clip pretty much all of aluminum, and just about any other goodie in Chevy’s bag of tricks. Shipping weight: 3245 lbs. Seriously. Only 57 were made, and seven are known to exist. Don’t ask what they’re worth.
The Z-11 was for the drag racers only. But folks like Junior Johnson got something even more special from the Chevy Skunk Works, the “Mystery Motor” Mark II 427. It wasn’t available through even your most accommodating Chevy dealer. In fact, it was the last legit factory NASCAR engine out of Chevrolet, as a result of GM’s self-imposed racing ban.
This engine is a hybrid of sorts, as it was based on the 4.31″ bore/3.65″ stroke 427 W Z-11 block, but had the “porcupine” heads that would appear on the Mark IV engine a year or so later. Only a handful of these engines were built, and Junior was the only one who really got it running right, racking up seven wins in the 1963 NASCR season. Maybe the Beach Boys should have been singing about My Mystery Motor 427. Junior was probably singing When I take her to the track she really shines.
I don’t really know what’s under the hood of this ’63 Impala SS. But since it has an aftermarket shifter for what is clearly a three-speed automatic, it does raise a few questions. The scenario I’d most like to imagine is that this was a 340 hp 409 with the Powerglide, which was replaced with a THM 400 or such. The original console is also MIA, presumably because of the after-market shift quadrant. Presumably.
The original-style optional tach has a 5000 rpm redline, which sounds about right for a 340 hp 409. As is evident from the steering wheel, this car is clean, but the upholstery and exterior do show signs of wear.
But the little after-market tach down there by the shifter has a decidedly higher red line. We’ll probably never know, unless the owner sees this on the internet and checks in. That happens often enough. I’m betting on a slightly warmed-up 409 that started life as the 340 hp version.
Enough of engines, and let’s get back to beauty. As a kid, I had endless debates about the ’61-’64 Chevys. The ’64 inevitably lost, because it was the dullest of the bunch, and that body was getting mighty long on tooth by then; try a little tenderness indeed. The ’62 had its charms, but the ’61 and ’63 had to duke it out in my mental arena endlessly. There never was a final resolution; they both have their charms.
But fifty years later, it’s time to finally settle this battle, and so I’ll let the women decide. A Google image search for the ’61 Impala shows there’s still a healthy number eager to strip with it, but the ’63 wins pants-down. Time to put that argument to bed once and for all. If only I’d had these high-tech aids back in 1963 to help me with that decision, I wouldn’t have been grappling with this problem for half a century.

 
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