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Damn, when does the bad news end?

Old Sep 24, 2005 | 09:28 PM
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Looks like the Canuks who make cars for GM may be going on strike here pretty soon.

Canadian Auto Workers to strike
 
Old Sep 24, 2005 | 09:32 PM
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frigging canadians.....[:'(]
 
Old Sep 24, 2005 | 09:48 PM
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frigging canadians.....[:'(]
why would you hate on them instead of directing your hatred to the one's who are causing them to do this.....GM!!!
 
Old Sep 24, 2005 | 09:58 PM
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they're blatantly breaking union policies by having a wildcat strike....that is why
 
Old Sep 25, 2005 | 02:17 AM
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they're blatantly breaking union policies by having a wildcat strike....that is why
care to show any facts to back up such a claim?
 
Old Sep 25, 2005 | 11:30 AM
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they're blatantly breaking union policies by having a wildcat strike....that is why
care to show any facts to back up such a claim?

Rich, are you a Unionized employee? nj85z28 is in the Union and should have a good understanding of it's workings.
 
Old Sep 25, 2005 | 05:56 PM
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Rich, are you a Unionized employee? nj85z28 is in the Union and should have a good understanding of it's workings.
so the insenuation is that because I'm not a unionized employee that I don't know what i'm talking about and he can make claims that have no facts to back them up simply because he's a part of a union? Come on now. The fact of the matter is that since it's inception in 1985, the CAW has used pattern bargaining in it's dealings with Daimler-Chrysler, Ford and GM. When the union reaches an agreement with one manufacturer, it then applies said agreement to the other two. It's been like that for nearly two decades. Pattern bargaining is the fundamental principle of the union. Seems pretty obvious to me who's clearly breaking union policies.
 
Old Sep 25, 2005 | 07:49 PM
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I for one feel that Union's had it's place in the workplace in it's conception, however, I feel as if they are and have been linked to the death of many companies and are the direct reason we can not compete in the world market place today. Yes, I think everyone should make as much money as they can but also feel that the market should set wages.

nj85z28 please don't take this personally but I feel that if I were not happy with the wage I was offered at the company I am wth I would find other employment offering what I feel I am worth. Not happy with management, treatment, conditions get out and find another job. There are many other organizations and laws out there protecting us from employer abuse. Again, not directed at you NJ85Z28 just my feeling towards Unions...


 
Old Sep 25, 2005 | 08:07 PM
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the whole point of unionism is fair pay for fair work. 8 for 8. Also, to protect benefits and such of employees. the problem is that once an agreement is made, it is made. there will be no strike agaisnt GM because it would just make the members and their union look bad. when labor agreements are made, they are good for a few years. for examply, the IBEW contracts between them and NECA are usually good for 4 years. anytime during that time striking is not allowed, unless necessary with the approval of the IO (international office), which rarely takes place in this situation
 
Old Sep 25, 2005 | 09:40 PM
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there will be no strike agaisnt GM because it would just make the members and their union look bad. when labor agreements are made, they are good for a few years. anytime during that time striking is not allowed, unless necessary with the approval of the IO (international office), which rarely takes place in this situation
it wouldn't be the first time the union went on strike and it surely wouldn't be the last.

I know how unions work, and i also know that the most recent labor agreement expired 9.20.05, so much for your "wildcat strike" theory. The labor is doing nothing wrong except for going to bat for their members, which is exactly what they're there for. It's GM that's being difficult in the situation and forcing the issue by breaking the pattern that has been in place for nearly 2 decades.
 

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