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Montecarloguy07 01-06-2010 11:31 PM

Car i want to get
 
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NEW car i am working on a deal to get this spring....what do you guys think...he wants 22,000

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Budsjlm 01-06-2010 11:40 PM

22 grand could be better spent... i don't mean to offend... you could build one for that price tag if you have the skill

Montecarloguy07 01-06-2010 11:43 PM

no way you could rebuild a 1929 ford roadster for under 20,000.....at least i couldnt see it unless you did all the work yourself and i am selling my 85 vette for 8,000

Enzo354 01-07-2010 12:39 AM

Depends if you have a gf/ wife willing to dress the part :D

RocknSS04 01-07-2010 06:17 AM

I'm not up on old iron, but if I were to buy some old iron, it'd have a flathead in it, but then that's me. Not a fan of SBC. Everyone has one.
But it's a good looking car, and if the price is fair, go for it. Just not my style, as I said.

Space 01-07-2010 07:06 AM

Have you driven it ? How does it Run ?
 
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:rolleyes:
It's your $'s & your Dream
If you can afford `it, I would buy your dream.
Some toys are more expensive then others.
It pays 2 do your homework, b-4 you sign your check
or depart with your cash.
Do you know the owner/builder and how it was built ?
How it was driven ?
Good Luck & let us know what you decide.
I know I'd love 2 drive it
4 Real ~>Sure :eek:
:D

Teacher 01-07-2010 09:11 AM

I would look and see what it would cost for you to buy and build vs just buying. As you said unless you do it all yourself I doubt you could build it for under 20k. If you did all the work then maybe 12-17k, just guessing. My dad bought a 35 roadster, with a 350 for 35k finished.

Like space said if it is what you have dreamed about then I so go for it.

Cowboy6622 01-07-2010 09:23 AM

It would require a lot of engineering and just general know how. You'd have to have several hundred dollars worth of tools alone (an air cut off, air files, air sanders, paint guns, welders), and lots of skills. For one, those cars weren't meant to have big V8's when they were built. You may have to do some cutting, welding, and bondoing on the inside fenders. You'd have to figure out a set of frame mounts that will let the engine sit in the car at all. You may have to push the metal out around the transmission if you go to big on that as well, you might want to swap out the rear end for a 5"... then you'll have to fix all the tents, you'll need a dent puller, the skill and know how to do bondo... If you want to build any fender flares or anything, you need to know how to work with bondo. If any holes are rusted out in the floor, you'll either need to fiberglass them in, or weld a patch over them, if it's rusted out too bad, you'll ahve to weld in a whole floorpan or even a whole floor! If it was ever in a wreck, you'll have a ton of fun getting the fit and finish right on something like that.

Then there is the issue of hooking up power steering, power brakes, and air conditioning on a car that never had that stuff originally. The stock wiring will be inadequate except for headlights and wipers, you'll have to run all the electricals to run an A/C if you choose to have one, then I don't know what you may have to do about the oil pressure, water temp, and volt gauges. Those cars were originally 6 volt systems, and now we run 12 volts, so there is all the conversion involved in that. Getting a paint job alone is several grand if you don't have the tools and the knowledge to do it yourself.



..... just off the top of my head ;) If I lived closer to Connecticut, I'd be happy to help you out in all the ways that I can. But I live in NC!

RickAKATed10 01-07-2010 09:34 AM

That looks worth every bit of $22K. Offer $20K and hope he bites.

rj 01-07-2010 11:43 AM

Guys. You're forgetting some majorr stuff here.

"IF" you were to build a car similar...........
1. the bodies are already produced.
2. any frame combination you can think of are produced.
3. a lot of the car owners run crate engines. (already produced. same for the transmissions/rear ends)
4. wheels/tires. (what floats your boat? it's out there)
5. interior kits. (produced)
6. steering, brakes, wiring.... (yep, kits produced)
7. any chrome (guess what?)

So sure you "Could" have over $20,000 in just building one of these. And the tools needed would be basic.

The more involved tools needed would be when you start doing custom work to the body or frame. And keep in mind a lot of these cars are build by bartering. You help some guy work in his car, he gives you any left over pieces he has from the build as payment and so on.

nascar43 01-07-2010 01:27 PM

.should you buy ?
 
....Should you get this car ?
Like tha others have been saying...." If you can Afford " ...it and still have food
in the cubbard , then Go For It.
I've never built one of these but have been around a few in my time and they
are expensive to build and can be frustrating but Well Worth the effort.
$22,000.00 seems a bit high but reasonible. Do some research. Go to www.oldride.com and also check those out.
Personally I'm a fan of these cars. I love the old Hot Rods and Rat Rods
that are coming back into style. I would love to own one but can't at this time.
Good Luck with it.

03JGMonte 01-07-2010 03:21 PM

if its what you want i say go for it,

MAMONTE 01-07-2010 03:29 PM

Looks pretty cool to me! :)

Cowboy6622 01-07-2010 03:37 PM

They do make all of that stuff RJ... but my experience with aftermarket is that about 1/3 of the time atleast, it doesn't quite want to match up exactly. One time I got a set of door handles for this torino that were like a quarter inch from matching... I measured everything and it should have matched, and didn't. Turned out ot be the threads being off, and I was able to put the original threads in to the new handles and get away with it that time.... sometimes the bolt holes will be like a half inch off for something.... hard to say without working on one, but it doesn't always just bolt up and go... plus you always have about twice as many problems as you expect.

skylark65 01-07-2010 05:27 PM

i would say $20-22k is about right if its something you can jump in and take to the cruse in. like RJ said, they are not the most difficult thing to build yourself, but you still come out to 16-17k if your lucky and using as many new parts as possible.... and then ya still gotta build it, which takes time to do correctly at home..... and if you farmed out the work to a qualified shop, your back up to a $20-22k price tag, and ya still gotta wait to drive it. if you can swing the pricetag without putting stress on your finances, i say go for it :) its a sweet lil roadster.

Cowboy6622 01-07-2010 06:07 PM

PSH! A car like that, all body work done at a shop, all painting done, all assembly completed there.... you're looking at $30,000 i'll bet!

skylark65 01-07-2010 06:14 PM

yep, probibly. if its a fiberglass body or mostly fiberglass parts it's not worth as much as a finished product but i would say $20 is a good buy. and the body looks straight enough where if ya got sick of the flat black, you could have it painted ( personally, i LOVE a candy apple red or blue with a bit of metalflake and a TON of clearcoat. ), add a hood and put a set of radir mag wheels on it, and you have a compleatly differant car! :)

rj 01-07-2010 06:31 PM

My 2 cents I'd go with a semi-gloss black color and call it done for now. You will get so many compliments from other people you'll loose count.

The fancy paint work can always come later if the funding is there and the desire.

You can rent a compressor from most tool rentals and if you screw it up, start over. The John Deere semi-gloss from a Tractor Supply store isn't as expensive as a gallon at a auto paint store. I know a lot of Tri-5 guys went with the JD paint as their first paint job just to get their car in to one color.

Duane, the aftermarket parts being off from original isn't just a problem with classic Furds. Us Cheby guys fight the same battle. I read a post today a guy complaining about Taiwan parts he was sold for his '57. Some members responded these parts were a better grade versus parts from previous years we were sold for our cars.

Back to the subject,
Speeday Motors is a decent place to buy parts for early Furds. They sell a lot and their prices aren't too hateful.

I got the electric fuel pump for my dad's '41 Dodge pickup from them about one year ago. Now they regularly send me their catalogs which include some Tri-5 parts as well as some for 4th generation Montes.

skylark65 01-07-2010 07:49 PM

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The John Deere semi-gloss from a Tractor Supply store isn't as expensive as a gallon at a auto paint store. I know a lot of Tri-5 guys went with the JD paint as their first paint job just to get their car in to one color.

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kinda off topic but i just gotta mention, my dad goes to the mack truck dealership for his paint. sounds strange i know, but they have a nice range of color choices, and you can get a gallon for about what a quart of duplicolor's paintshop prouduct goes for. we've done a couple of cars for other people with that paint, just single stage color / clear, wax it and it looks amazing for the amount of $ invested :)


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