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[/color]Motown Showdown: 2009 Dodge Charger SRT8 vs. 2009 Pontiac G8 GXP
Ready to Rumble: A bare-knuckled brawl between Motowns 400-plus-bhp V-8 sedans
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Point either the Dodge Charger SRT8 or Pontiac G8 GXP down the road. With a light touch on the brakes, run the revs up a bit. Slip off the brake and bury the throttle. Theres a light chirp as tires scratch for bite. Then comes a sub-5.0-second sled ride to 60 mph. A tick over 13.0 sec. and youre through the quarter-mile. Its a rush, of course, but not overly dramatic. Try the same thing with this pairs predecessors of 1970 or so and youll find yourself in a bit of a wrestling match. Aint progress wonderful? Maybe yes, and maybe sometimes its fun to wrestle.

Slideshow >>[/align][align=center][/align][align=center]Just saying "Charger" and "Hemi" will get you a free six-pack in some neighborhoods. And well it should, whether from a young driver loving his new Hemi or his old man (heck, maybe his old mans old man) getting nostalgic about the original Hemis. It has been 58 years since the first hemispherical-combustion-chamber Chrysler
V-8.
Todays Hemi isnt as hemispherical as its ancestors and we miss those broad cylinder heads and their rocker covers. Still, the new Hemi is a powerful-looking piece, plastic panels with "HEMI 6.1L" hiding heads that sport ugly coil-on-plug electronics. Look beneath the cast-aluminum intake manifold and youll see the classic orange paint on the engine block.
The Chargers aluminum fuel-injected V-8 puts out 425 bhp at 6200 rpm and 420 lb.-ft. of torque at 4800 rpm. That horsepower number matches the advertised output of the carbureted cast-iron 7.0-liter Hemi of the early 1970s. The modern Hemi, however, meets emissions and mileage standards thought impossible 35 years ago. Incidentally, Dodge does not use fuel-saving cylinder deactivation for the SRT8s 6.1-liter V-8.
Just saying "small-block" brings to mind a fabled engine line, one that has produced over 90 million V-8s since 1955. Its said there are only two constants in the universe, the speed of light and the bore centers of a small-block Chevy. The GXPs LS3 V-8 is true to that tradition.
Displacing 6.2 liters in the GXP, the all-aluminum V-8 is rated at 415 for both horsepower (at 5900 rpm) and lb.-ft. torque (at 4600 rpm). Like the Hemi, the GXP LS3 doesnt use cylinder deactivation.
While those GXP power numbers are impressive, you wouldnt necessarily guess it when you lift the hood to face a plastic panel that hides the engine. This camouflage is pretty enough, but we miss seeing the actual hardware.
While Dodges SRT8 example of the modern All-American muscle car is built in Canada, Pontiacs G8 GXP is sourced from Australia via GMs Holden division. Any American motorhead could easily talk with an Aussie counterpart right down to the specifics of eking more power from small-block Ford and GM V-8s. We talk in horsepower and pounds-feet, they prefer kilowatts and Newton-meters and drive on the wrong side of the road, but otherwise the language, the basic equipment and the passion are the same. Just dont slip, let the accent confuse you and ask them if theyre from England. Or New Zealand. They hate that.

Slideshow >>[/align][align=center][/align][align=center]Thankfully, down in Oz they never liked front-wheel drive for their powerful vehicles and never tried such odd combos as the Pontiac Grand Prix GXP with its 5.3-liter V-8/front-drive powertrain. Reminds one of the time Bill Veeck pinch hit a 3-ft. 7-in. midget to draw a walk against the Tigers. The ploy had its intended effect, but isnt remembered as great baseball.
Holdens adherence to rear drive is why the company got the Zeta platform program, which evolved into the Generals "Global RWD Architecture." Prospects for this program are hazy these days, but the Zeta is the basis for the Pontiac G8 and Chevrolets new Camaro. [8D]
Specifically, that means MacPherson strut front and 4-link independent rear suspension with stability control, designs tweaked at the Nürburgring, a first for a Pontiac. Brembo supplies the front brakes, with ventilated rotors on duty inside alloy wheels shod with P245/40R-19 tires.
Pontiac was able to cherry-pick from the Holden Commodore line to create the GXP. Theres a lot from which to choose, including wild versions done by Holdens Special Vehicles group. But Pontiac passed on tall tail wings and large fender vents. Staying conservative, it based the GXP on the Commodore Calais V-Series, onto which was grafted a nicely done Pontiac twin-snout nose and a unique air-scoop hood.
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Old 02-20-2009, 05:43 AM
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Price as Tested
SRT $46K ~ GXP $41K
[X(]Way 2 many $`s 4 my budget ~> 4-$ure [8D]
 
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Bling Quartet: D3 Cadillac CTS
Stylish, reliable and frighteningly quick, these four cars represent a new standard in tuning.
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Lap Time: 1:34.94
You may wonder: What the heck is a V-6-powered luxury sedan doing in this mix? It's an understandable reaction considering that the new Cadillac CTS is not exactly a 911 competitor, but don't forget that it's powered by a 304-bhp direct-injection V-6. And it's actually a decent handler, witnessed by its performance around the Streets of Willow Springs. Our stock all-wheel-drive CTS completed a lap in 1:40.05, reaching a top speed of 95.6 mph. The car's balance through the corners was impressive, with ample power coming out of the turns, but the lack of grip from the Michelin P235/50ZR-18s slowed the stock CTS through the tight sections.

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Then the D3-tuned CTS destroyed the stock CTS's lap time on its first lap out. Where one second is a lifetime on this short, tight track, the D3 ran more than 5 sec. faster. In the end, the D3 registered 1:34.94. To be fair, the awd CTS is about 250 lb. heavier than the rear-drive D3 version, but it was the D3's suspension tuning and braking that played the biggest role in its dominance. (Note: Only an all-wheel-drive version of the stock CTS was available at the time of testing.)





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D3 engineers installed KW's coil-over kit to the car's unequal-length A-arm suspension up front and multilink setup at the rear. They also lowered the body about an inch, which helps to reduce body roll. The result is a somewhat firm ride, but in exchange, you get improved steering feel and super-crisp turn-in response. The car's sticky Toyo Proxes R888 tires also helped the cause. The stock brakes were swapped with D3's custom Big Brake Upgrade System that uses giant 15.0-in. rotors all around with 8-piston calipers up front and 4-piston at the rear. This setup proved to be so powerful that the D3 outbraked every car in this test, stopping from 60 mph in 109 ft. and from 80 mph in 192 ft. In fact, while we were performing our tests, the D3's stopping power was so forceful that an OnStar operator called, asking if the car had been in a front-end collision.
The D3 smoked the stock CTS through the slalom and around the skidpad, registering 68.5 mph and 0.87g respectively, while the stock CTS managed 62.8 mph and 0.84g.

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KidSpace would love to see the below engine in a Monte Carlo 4-Sure [:-]
Under the hood, D3 kept changes minimal. There's a custom intake system with a heat shield and a Corsa exhaust that not only improves flow, but gives the car a menacing roar during acceleration. The D3 CTS's 3.6-liter VVT DI (Direct Injection) V-6 produces 340 bhp at 6600 rpm and 292 lb.-ft. of torque at 4380. This allows the transformed car to get to 60 mph in 6.1 sec. and to the quarter mile in 14.5. (The company is working on a supercharged model; see "Sweet Science — The Art of Tuning.")
Cadillac has done a wonderful job with the CTS, producing a car that can hold its own against its European counterparts. For those who desire a little more than the usual, upgrading to D3 trim is definitely the way to go. D3 components and parts are available at Cadillac dealerships or directly through the company. This particular setup goes for $15,000, and you can see from our lap times of the D3 CTS, it's worth every penny.
D3 R&D: (866) 988-2090, [color=#0000ff]www.d3cadillac.com
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