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2017 Chevrolet Camaro 1LE: Now Available with a V-6 or a V-8!

Track is back and more attainable than ever.











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Muscle- and pony-car fans will always opt for the V-8, no matter the other choices available to them. Internet commenters and hacks will scoff at the idea that a V-6—or, worse, a turbocharged four-cylinder—could even be considered fun. Whatever. We think that the more sporting, rear-drive coupes that exist in this world, the better, no matter what they have under the hood. And outside of objective measurements like zero-to-60 times or quarter-mile sprints, the fun gap between (increasingly better) smaller engines and the still-stonking bigger engines in cars like the Ford Mustang and the Chevrolet Camaro is shrinking. Consider that gap even tighter with the introduction of Chevrolet’s latest 1LE track package for the Camaro.




Reintroduced on the previous-generation (fifth-generation) Camaro after more than a decade away, the 1LE package incorporates a track-ready suspension setup, wider wheels and sticky summer tires, mild aerodynamic add-ons, and extra cooling for the engine and driveline. Previously, it was offered only on the V-8–powered SS model. The new 1LE package has been democratized, for it will be an option on V-6 Camaros, too. (Will the upcoming turbo-four-powered Camaro also be let into the Hall of 1LE? We’re told Chevy is considering the idea.) While this technically means there are two 1LE kits, one for the V-8 and one for the V-6, both are similarly tuned to deliver serious on-track performance for not a lot of money.

For the V-6 . . .

The 1LE packages are specific to each engine, owing to those engines’ distinctly different weights. For six-cylinder 1LEs, the package is essentially the FE3 suspension from a stock, V-8 Camaro SS with a few tuning tweaks. This includes the dampers, rear subframe mounts, ball-jointed toe links, and anti-roll bars.

The tighter suspension works in concert with staggered-width 20-inch forged-aluminum wheels and 245/40 front and 275/35 rear Goodyear Eagle F1 Asymmetric 3 run-flat summer tires to deliver a claimed 0.97 g of lateral grip. (Quick note: This figure is subject to the testing methods and the diameter of the skidpad used to measure it; we evaluate lateral grip on a 300-foot skidpad, where a stock V-6 Camaro recorded an impressive 0.91 g.) Other mechanical enhancements for the V-6 1LE include enhanced cooling (engine, transmission, and differential oils), Brembo four-piston front brake calipers, a limited-slip diff, the dual-mode exhaust that’s optional on regular Camaros, and the SS model’s fuel-delivery system that better handles higher cornering forces. A satin-black vinyl wrap for the hood and the side mirrors, a chin splitter and rear lip spoiler, and a suede-wrapped steering wheel and shift **** round out the modifications.
And for the V-8 . . .

With no Camaro model above the SS to borrow suspension components from—at least presently—the SS 1LE introduces the all-new FE4 suspension to the latest Camaro family. (We suspect that, as on the previous-generation Camaro, there will be some overlap between the SS 1LE’s chassis and that of the supercharged Camaro ZL1; expect to see FE4 components on that model when it debuts.) Chevrolet cites “specific tuning” for the SS 1LE’s standard magnetorheological dampers, as well as for the springs and anti-roll bars. The V-8’s setup is augmented by even more aggressive tires, in this case Goodyear rubber with Corvette-like section widths of 285/30 up front and 305/20 in back.

Brembo front brakes incorporate larger aluminum-hat rotors and six-piston monoblock calipers, while the rear end is beefed up by an electronically controlled limited-slip differential similar to that used in the Corvette. Standard Camaro SS models already ship with engine, differential, and transmission oil coolers, so those items aren’t specific to the 1LE package but are useful nonetheless. The SS 1LE also comes standard with a dual-mode exhaust, a satin-black hood and side mirrors, a front splitter and rear lip spoiler, and a microsuede-wrapped steering wheel and shift ****. Also included are a pair of deeply bolstered Recaro bucket seats—which are optional on the V-6 1LE—covered in a grippy cloth with microsuede inserts. The nifty Performance Data Recorder feature, essentially a dash cam with lap-time analysis software that first debuted on the Corvette, is optional on both 1LEs.
Power Corrupts, or Does It?

Astute readers may have noticed that we’ve not mentioned a single horsepower or torque figure for either 1LE. That’s no accident. As before, the 1LE package is strictly a chassis upgrade, and ordering it changes nothing about the Camaro’s six- and eight-cylinder engines. As such, the V-6 1LE packs the same 335-hp 3.6-liter V-6 as other six-cylinder Camaros, while the SS 1LE uses the familiar fire-breathing 455-hp 6.2-liter V-8 as its eight-cylinder Camaro brethren. The 1LE package does, however, restrict buyers to the six-speed manual transmission—correctly, in our estimation. In our testing, the stick-shift Camaro V-6 streaks to 60 mph in 5.4 seconds, and the Camaro V-8 (with the quicker automatic) does the deed in 3.9 ticks.

Adding the 1LE’s extra helping of grip and track-readiness to that sort of acceleration capability sounds great to us, although determining a favorite between the two 1LEs may prove exceptionally difficult. Already, the lithe V-6 Camaro strikes us as the sports car of the family, with the brutal V-8 model doing its best impression of a Corvette with a virtually useless back seat. Both are phenomenal to drive, and we suspect the 1LE packages will amplify each version’s personality.The packages, which are available on the 1LT or 2LT six-cylinder cars and the 1SS V-8, are expected to be fairly inexpensive. The last Camaro’s kit cost just $3500 and transformed the Camaro SS into a laser-guided track missile. Now, with the package available on the 1LT V-6 (which starts at $26,695), it might be possible to snag a 1LE for about $30,000. If that’s not reason enough to drop the “V-8 or die!” line, we suggest you go test-drive a six-cylinder Camaro right now. We’ll try not to say we told you so

 

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2016 Chevrolet Corvette Stingray Z51 vs. 2016 Ford Mustang Shelby GT350

These two unlikely combatants scrap for the title of the best everyday American sports car. And America wins . . . again!


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From the February 2016 issue
Chairman Mao Zedong, a fan of the red but not so much of the white or the blue, once said, “I got more hoes than the ozone.” Oh wait, it might have been Abraham Lincoln who said that.
The quote we were Google-searching for from Chairman Mao was something about asymmetric warfare, about how a fighter must move amongst the people as a fish swims in the sea, which is way more poetic and stuff. And what we have here is a classic asymmetric fight; a battle in which one side is conventionally powerful and established and the other is a fish.
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All of this brings us inextricably to the showdown that neither Chevrolet nor Ford probably had in mind: the one between the Corvette and the new Shelby GT350. We set out to find the best American sports car that a successful, but not necessarily rich, person could attain. We would want road-course competence from our winner, but not at the expense of real-world drivability, since it is sadly the real world in which we spend most of our time. Our winner should look fast, sound fast, and be fast. But most important, it should be thrilling to drive.

Playing the role of the established power­house is the seventh-generation ­Corvette. We chose an example with the Z51 performance package to bring the track prowess we were looking for. And because driver engagement and enjoyment are ­paramount in this test, we chose the seven-speed manual transmission. Chevy provided just such a car, loaded up with the 2LT package of niceties ($4455), Magnetic Ride Control shocks ($1795), the data-and-video system for recording laps ($1795), the vibrant but extra-cost Laguna Blue paint ($995), and “sueded microfiber” seat inserts ($395). This ballooned the Z51’s suggested price from $61,395 to a whopping $70,830. But if you were to spec out a more basic performance Z51, you could easily cut $7000 from what this car cost.

Our insurgent, the Shelby GT350, is a car that would easily swim through the sea of EcoBoost and GT Mustangs undetected, were it not for its ripping exhaust note. Mustangs were never really intended to battle Corvettes. Hell, they have at various times shared platforms with Falcons, ­Pintos, and Fairmonts. But this one—this frankly shockingly special version—can put up a legitimate fight even though it’s more than 300 pounds heavier and is more than five inches taller than the Corvette. We specified a regular GT350 with the optional Track package instead of the R version because we wanted as much on-road sophistication as possible, and also because we wanted tires that roughly match the stickiness and longevity of the Corvette’s. The Track package—which brings magnetic shocks, a front strut-tower brace, firmer springs, and oil coolers for the engine, transmission, and differential—rings in at a not-insubstantial $6500. The only other option on our test car was the $475 “Over-the-Top Racing Stripes.” Unfortunately, once you opt for the Track package, Ford locks out the navigation system, upgraded stereo, and a few other goodies available to stand­ard GT350 buyers.
All in, our GT350 cost $56,970. That’s a substantial discount from our Corvette. The Chevy makes back all the points it loses for its inflated sticker in our features and amenities category—and then some. After all, this is supposed to be an asymmetrical fight.
We bombed around Willow Springs International Raceway in Southern California, gleefully roasting Michelins. We strapped on our instruments for our normal battery of proving-grounds tests. And we assaulted some of the country’s finest roads between our high-desert test facilities and the clogged thoroughfares of Los Angeles. In the final accounting, it was the insurgent that wound up with more hoes.

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2016 10Best Cars

We go to the plants and proving grounds to find the people who make the cars we love for 2016.
  • JOHN ROE
  • CHARLIE MAGEE
  • ANDREW TRAHAN
  • ROY RITCHIE
  • SCOTT G. TOEPFER
  • TOMOHIRO OHSUMI
  • JAMES LIPMAN
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  • MICHAEL SIMARI
  • THE MANUFACTURERS
  • SEAN MCCABE
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10Best Cars



From the January 2016 issue


10Best involves more than drawing up lists of our sub-$80,000 favorites. Every year we enter our weeklong evalu­ation looking for new and improved combinations of virtues: value and engagement, performance and poise, sights and sounds, soul and character. The cars that earn this award do more than merely succeed on one or two criteria; they come to us fully formed, polished, complete. But how do they get that way? This year we delve deeper into our winners’ makings to better explain why they won. Who builds and develops these cars? Where? How do they go about it? What is a 10Bester truly made of? There are, of course, varied answers because cars are not simple things. You do not buy them on Etsy, and we’re not running a Maker Faire here. Automobiles are still the most complex and technologically advanced consumer products that man has ever devised. What follows in this section is our proof.

THE WINNERS:


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BMW M235i

Cadillac CTS Vsport


Chevrolet Camaro


Ford Mustang Shelby GT350 / GT350R


Honda Accord

Mazda MX-5 Miata

Mazda 3

Porsche Boxster / Cayman

Tesla Model S 70 / 70D

Volkswagen Golf / GTI / Golf R



Editor's Letter





Every year we pick our 10Best cars, and every year we leave four to five times that many off the list. Usually, there is a vast gulf between the winners and the losers. But not this time.

Eddie Alterman
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so now there is a V6 Camaro more powerful than a 4th Gen SS
 
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Originally Posted by singrseanr
so now there is a V6 Camaro more powerful than a 4th Gen SS

Hi `Sean, the big news is the Chevy is putting the "Track package option for the 2017 Camaro V6 & V8's yes, Powerful
* The test driver in the below vid's really made me laugh at the excitement he showed as he was test driving these new Camaro's (LOL)


 

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Nice !! Still pacing the floor like an expectant daddy for my SS - 455 hsp is enough for this ole man
 
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Originally Posted by Tadcaster
Nice !! Still pacing the floor like an expectant daddy for my SS - 455 hsp is enough for this ole man
LoL `Tadd, I would prefer to 2 waiting for a Camaro Baby S.S. 4-$ure Human babies cost to much >


Charley order his Camaro last year & he doesn't even have a driver's license, but he don't care he can afford to built his own race course...with booze-stops
 



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