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rj 06-20-2011 01:03 PM

'11 Monte Nationals
 
Usually the NMCOA web site is a buzz with talk about the upcoming Nationals and who's going. Stuff like that.

This year the web site is all but dead. :(

Just wondering what the difference could be this year versus other years?

Montess2k 06-20-2011 06:54 PM

There was a discussion with a few members, regarding show locations in prior years, so many of the club members in certain areas decided to back another show...in comparison of the two shows held on the same weekend, many felt the other show provided more stuff to do and in a better setting.... I could go into more detail, but no need to revisit that publicly.

Added in the fact that it is futher east this year and the ussual attendes are more midwest and do not want to make the long drive (Ironically thats what pushed the people mentioned above away in the first place)

Add in bad economy, higher gas prices, and what maybe a less of a push from the show runners all coupled together = less posts and commotion.

If more details are needed feel free to pm me :)

Joe

AwesomeSS 06-20-2011 06:59 PM

I'm guessing location too - I'm so jealous that I can't go this year. My friend who lives in WI is driving all that way. He has an 87 SS areo coupe and an 02 Dale Sr. edition. He's taking the 02. I lent him my front end mask that I use on Silver (cause it's got the plate cutout) so he won't screw up his front end.

monte carlo 3831 06-20-2011 07:14 PM

that sucks, lastyear there were 125 registered Monte Carlos on the showfield, I wonder what that # will be this year....:(

AwesomeSS 06-20-2011 07:16 PM

You'll probably have the most members from this forum though.

Cowboy6622 06-20-2011 08:47 PM

Where are the Nationals this year?

AwesomeSS 06-20-2011 08:49 PM

York, PA

rj 06-21-2011 11:30 AM


Originally Posted by monte carlo 3831 (Post 335164)
that sucks, lastyear there were 125 registered Monte Carlos on the showfield, I wonder what that # will be this year....:(

25. lol :)

Joe. I thought one of the biggest problems you had was location? You and a few other members from the east wanted the Nationals closer. And in 2008 it was. So now in 2011 it's even closer to you, yet you prefer to attend GM/Carlisle.

I know issues I had was the drive and the price of gasoline. Gas in my area has fallen to $3.42/gal since last week. I was almost tempted to attend the Hot Rod Reunion in Bowling Green, KY instead of the Monte Nationals. Bowling Green is a 5 hr drive versus the close to 8 hrs the Nationals is.

Taz 06-21-2011 11:46 AM

Maybe fire off an email to Cort. See what he says.

Montess2k 06-21-2011 02:12 PM


Originally Posted by rj (Post 335376)
25. lol :)

Joe. I thought one of the biggest problems you had was location? You and a few other members from the east wanted the Nationals closer. And in 2008 it was. So now in 2011 it's even closer to you, yet you prefer to attend GM/Carlisle.

It started out with the administraition wanting to grow the numbers in the northeast, which we were willing to do...We were happy it came the furthest east it ever was in 2008...there was speculation it would return in 2009, but it wasn't so, which was absolutely fine with the people in that region.

We then were trying to create a minimeet in the northeast in 2009, but a few were accused of "dropping the ball" along with other things, this upset a few in the northeast...that coupled with one minimeet being setup in the same state as the big show that same year , we thought the minimeets were suppose to bring supporters out in regions that were unable to get to the big show due to distance.

yet many in the region were renewing there yearly dues of $35 again with out having a show to go to...when the 2010 Nationals were announced once again more towards the midwest, and without a show to go to, many in the region opted for the GM Nationals...after attending that show and seeing how much that had to offer, the FGMCC,NYMCC,NJMCC,PAMCC, and NEMCC all threw there support behind the gm nationals.

This was all publicly known before the 2011 Monte Nationals was announced...not sure if the administraition was under hopes that bringing it back east again would garner support from the clubs mentioned above....but for many it was to little to late....most stopped paying there dues and actively posting there long before 2011.

I'm quite certain if things were handled differently, the Monte Nationals would EASILY have 150-200 Montes showing up this weekend, but that is not the case. Maybe if the shows were on different weekends numbers could be that high at both shows, but again that is not the case.

I am not knocking any club/affiliation/show I think the more Shows the merrier, and I hope everyone has a blast and a fun time no matter what show they attend this weekend....just stating what happened and how people feel in certain areas as to why we are not backing that show even with it being so close....no need to rehash it, whats done is done.

however I do not see the Monte Nationals ever coming east again, for good reason, so the midwesterners should be happy they get "there" show back next year and probably everyone after that.

Again I hope everyone has a great and safe weekend weather there at the Monte Nationals, GM Nationals, a local cruise, a big car show or just simply taking a ride in there car.

Joe

Montelicious 06-21-2011 03:28 PM


Originally Posted by Montess2k (Post 335429)
It started out with the administraition wanting to grow the numbers in the northeast, which we were willing to do...We were happy it came the furthest east it ever was in 2008...there was speculation it would return in 2009, but it wasn't so, which was absolutely fine with the people in that region.

We then were trying to create a minimeet in the northeast in 2009, but a few were accused of "dropping the ball" along with other things, this upset a few in the northeast...that coupled with one minimeet being setup in the same state as the big show that same year , we thought the minimeets were suppose to bring supporters out in regions that were unable to get to the big show due to distance.

yet many in the region were renewing there yearly dues of $35 again with out having a show to go to...when the 2010 Nationals were announced once again more towards the midwest, and without a show to go to, many in the region opted for the GM Nationals...after attending that show and seeing how much that had to offer, the FGMCC,NYMCC,NJMCC,PAMCC, and NEMCC all threw there support behind the gm nationals.

This was all publicly known before the 2011 Monte Nationals was announced...not sure if the administraition was under hopes that bringing it back east again would garner support from the clubs mentioned above....but for many it was to little to late....most stopped paying there dues and actively posting there long before 2011.

I'm quite certain if things were handled differently, the Monte Nationals would EASILY have 150-200 Montes showing up this weekend, but that is not the case. Maybe if the shows were on different weekends numbers could be that high at both shows, but again that is not the case.

I am not knocking any club/affiliation/show I think the more Shows the merrier, and I hope everyone has a blast and a fun time no matter what show they attend this weekend....just stating what happened and how people feel in certain areas as to why we are not backing that show even with it being so close....no need to rehash it, whats done is done.

however I do not see the Monte Nationals ever coming east again, for good reason, so the midwesterners should be happy they get "there" show back next year and probably everyone after that.

Again I hope everyone has a great and safe weekend weather there at the Monte Nationals, GM Nationals, a local cruise, a big car show or just simply taking a ride in there car.

Joe

:thumbsup::congrats:

Taz 06-21-2011 03:42 PM

Thanks for the info Joe.

ChibiBlackSheep 06-21-2011 03:50 PM

Wish I knew that info before hand ;)

Though I figured this would be one of the only times Monte Nats was so close I had to go.

Montess2k 06-21-2011 07:28 PM

Honestly I didn't post to deter people from going to the Monte Nationals, just wanted to state it wasn't all about the location, at least not anymore.

Again it is a good choice to go to the Monte Nationals if you were not involved with what was posted, like ya said it is the closest it's ever been so it is a good oppurtunity to go, and for someone who has not been to either show, those people can go to the Monte Nationals this year then hit up the GM Nationals next year and compare the two.

I hope the weather holds out and both shows are over run with Montes this weekend!

Joe

KJRich 06-21-2011 09:50 PM

Looks like I'll never make it to a Monte Nationals.

rj 06-23-2011 12:39 PM

Sadly, I will not be attending the Monte Nats either.

My dad was taken to the ER on wednesday night. At 3:30am they moved him to a room. His pulse was 122 which should have been 75-80 range.

Yesterday morning with him still in the hospital and the doctor saying they suspected a blood clog near his heart I cancelled all my plans. Cause I thought I could be setting in the waiting room while he was in surgery at any moment.

Come the afternoon the doctor changes his mind. Says to pay more attention to how my dad feels versus what instraments are saying. And sent my dad home.

I'm glad he's home. But unhappy with how things are being handled. And really unhappy I won't be at the 2011 Monte Nationals. But my dad is more important.

Taz 06-23-2011 05:28 PM

RJ, I sent a PM your way. But please know that your dad will be in our thoughts and prayers. Nationals can wait till next year. Your family is more important.

76MonteMan 06-23-2011 05:42 PM

I have never been able to attend the Monte Nationals for the reason that I live on the west coast and can't afford to drive to the mid-west or east coast.

monte carlo 3831 06-23-2011 08:49 PM

RJ, very sorry to hear that you won't be there this year, family comes first , we will be praying for you and your famiy.....

knightfan26917 06-24-2011 12:57 AM


Originally Posted by Taz (Post 335388)
Maybe fire off an email to Cort. See what he says.

*raises eyebrow sharply*

Why? Ya'll don't want to see/hear what I have to say/type.



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Taz 06-24-2011 09:47 AM


Originally Posted by knightfan26917 (Post 336398)
*raises eyebrow sharply*

Why? Ya'll don't want to see/hear what I have to say/type.



Just the opposite Cort. Before Joe gave an explanation of what was going on, I was wondering if maybe you could enlighten us. I'm always interested in what you have to say.

knightfan26917 08-13-2011 11:36 PM


Originally Posted by Taz (Post 336500)
Just the opposite Cort. Before Joe gave an explanation of what was going on, I was wondering if maybe you could enlighten us. I'm always interested in what you have to say.

Trust me ... in this case, you would NOT be. The bickering back and forth is ALMOST as irritating as Ch#$r%*et STILL being in business today and STILL CONTINUING to get away with FAR WORSE than the bickering back'n'forth about the shows.....



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MCs.CC + CHD.models.HO.legos.RadioShows + RoadTrips.us66 = Cort's Web Pages
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rj 08-15-2011 04:14 PM

NO ONE............. should allow another person or group to make up their minds for them.

Gather all information you can and make your own choices.

I for one am sorry there's hard feelings going on between NMCOA and some Monte owners.

My $0.02 ONLY.
I see some getting hurt feelings because they can't have their own way. First and formost NMCOA is a business.

ex.
My town has 50,000 people living it.
The next town has 5,000 living there.
We both want a Wally World in our town. Where will Wally World build the new store?

Running NMCOA is just like running a Wally World. It either makes money and survives OR...... :(

Could John concede and host a Monte Nationals some place closer for the east coasters just once? SURE! But I do not tell John how to run NMCOA not does he ask me for my opinion. I do not know any plus or minuses NMCOA has experienced recently so I can not offer an explaination as to why some decisions are made.

Setting here complaining how or why something was/wasn't done offers little in the way of relief for how I feel about a situation. I can however choose where I spend my monies and time.

I do hope in time hurt feelings are healed. And some type of agreement can be met between the Monte owners who feel they were ignored by a national club.


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